NEXTGEN BALLAST & Plant lighting hydroponics.com SUCKS!!!

Mountainfarmer

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Plantlightinghydroponics.com A.K.A. Aladdins lights suck BIG TIME. About a year ago I began a search for the equipment to build/design a grow room. I went to local shops and looked online. After comparing the prices of the two I decided to go online with a company called Plant lightinghydroponics.com A.K.A. Aladdins lights out of twinsburg ohio. BIG MISTAKE!!! I ordered over $3000.00 worth of equipment. Three Electronic NEXTGEN 1000 watt ballasts, high end bulbs, carbon filters, controllers, ect. No expense was spared. When I received the equipment I opened the ballasts to find that they had scratches and tool marks on the fasteners. I immediatly called PLH and spoke with one of the managers Jeff. He assured me that the ballast were new and they did not ever sell used or refurbished equipment. Being in a crunch for time, I just wanted to get things started so I dropped the issue. I figured if I had a problem with the NEXTGEN ballasts I could always rely on the manufactures 5 year warranty. WRONG!!!

Side note: I was warned about buying equipment from online vendors from local hydro shops and here on RIU. They said that returns would be a nightmare if even possible, customer service is poor to say the least, and that there were a lot of fly-by-night companies that just won't be in business when it comes time to make warranty claim. I DID NOT listen to these critics, mainly because there was a significant difference in the $$$$$ amount between my local shop and these online vendors. In my case around $1,400.00 difference.

lo and behold six months into my operation one of the NEXTGEN 1000 watt ballasts failed. Just quit working. Supposidly your able to self diagnose these ballast but this thing was DEAD. Fortunatly for me I bought (3) of these ballasts and was only using (2). So I switched out the dead ballast for the backup one and was instructed by Jeff @ PLH to send the broken ballast back to Custom Automated Products, C.A.P; which i did. He stated that if the ballast was deemed defective they would send me a "new" ballast. Three weeks went by and I heard nothing. I called Plant lighting hydroponics (AKA Aladdins lights) and this time spoke with another manager Mike. He told me that in fact the ballast was shot and C.A.P had sent me out a "new" ballast. That was this past monday. Well today I received the "new" ballast. Except the ballsat isn't new. They sent me a refurbished unit:fire: ...WTF...So I call the jokers at PLH and the manager Mike tells me that they must of fixed my ballast and just sent it back instead of a new one. I tell him the there are stickers all over the box that say REFURBISHED and the invoice says: replace with REFURB. He tells me that he is going to call CAP and call me right back. :wall: He calls back and says, Custom Automated Products policy is: If the ballast breaks within 90 days of purchase then they would have sent me a new ballast. But since it was outside of the 90 days (180Days) it is their option to send me a refurbished or new unit. WTF...If you look at NEXTGEN ballasts their BIG selling point is their 5 YEAR WARRANTY. Fucking Bullshit. CAPS warranty card that comes with each ballast states: 5 YEAR WARRANTY (3 years 100% and 2 years prorated.) So I called CAP today and they told me the same bullshit. I asked the lady at CAP, why doesn't the warranty card state anything about this 90 day bullshit? She did not have an answer. I asked her if she thinks it might be important to add this imformation to the warranty card for the benefit of customers and potential customers? She stated that she would "speak to the higher ups" about my concerns but that was their company policy.

This has got to be illegal. PLH, CAP, and the likes need to be put out of business through boycotts. We growers need to mobilize and force these bootleg companies to give us the service and products we deserve. Just because what many of us do is considered taboo and illegal in some situations, we are subjected to overpricing, no return policies, poorly designed products, shitty customer service, and an overall POOR experience.

Just warning all of you growers who were considering CAP equipment, you might want to reconsider. The reason I went with NEXTGEN ballast is because of their 5 year warranty. Filthy liars. And as far as PLH a.k.a ALLADIN LIGHTS, all of the warnings about online vendors proved to be true with them. I have never dealt with such a poorly run business in my life. From the manager to the employees, all are worthless. There were several other issues I had with PLH but I have spent enough time on these crooks.
 

Polecat

Active Member
Chris Farley said it best. I can take a dump in a box and put a warraty on it. But its still just shit in a box. Or something like that.
 

Polecat

Active Member
I am a electrician and have installed many lights with electronic ballasts. They make me cringe when i see pallets of them. 1 out of 30 don't work out the box. The customers are calling use back to change ballasts at least once a month to change them. They are extremly sensitive and not worth the money as far as i'm concerened. Take it for what its worth. Thier are probaly good ones out there that are better then what I have worked with. They would probaly be the most expensive. If you wanted to save money you should have went with magnetic old style.
 

Mountainfarmer

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You obviosly don't get my point. "beware of buying anything online? thats about the dumbest shyt i ever heard. I buy and sell stuff online all the time and so do most other people in the 21st century. You must live in one of those one stop light kinda towns. Just because one buys something online should not subject them to poor business practices.
You get what you pay for. Beware of buying anything online.
 

Mountainfarmer

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yea, I heard all of the horror stories about thembut I made the plunge anyway. If I could do it again I would go with the magnetic style for sure. Sorry for jumping down your throat, just pissed.
I am a electrician and have installed many lights with electronic ballasts. They make me cringe when i see pallets of them. 1 out of 30 don't work out the box. The customers are calling use back to change ballasts at least once a month to change them. They are extremly sensitive and not worth the money as far as i'm concerened. Take it for what its worth. Thier are probaly good ones out there that are better then what I have worked with. They would probaly be the most expensive. If you wanted to save money you should have went with magnetic old style.
 

Polecat

Active Member
I buy stuff online all the time. I know if you are buying something electronic if you go with the cheapest price from a store you don't now and brand you never heard of you are going to get fucked. EVERYTIME. I am from a small town. But at least i'm not stupid.

Fuck you and your light.
 

cdrippper2

Active Member
Dam, no reason to get that upset. Anyways, i build my own computers, and some manufacturers warranties state right in them that they WILL replace your new broke shit with refurb instead of new. I was pissed when i read that and your issue made me remember that. Fuckin cheap companies lol
 

Mountainfarmer

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see I apoligized to you and that just wasn't good enough. Dude reread what you wrote. you are a dummy, learn how to spell before you comment on this post. Also I don't have a problem with my light, it's a ballast stupid. And you say you are an electrician? Maybe a electricians helper. Dude you have been on RIU for 5 months and you already have 186 posts? If you don't have anything constructive to add please keep it moving dummy.
 

Mountainfarmer

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this is too funny...thats the thing. their warranty say nothing about the bs they pulled. google nextgens warranty, its all right there. thanks for the support though!
 

Polecat

Active Member
I have nothing better to do at work. My daughter hogs the tv. My paycheck says I'm an electrician. I admit I'm not the best speller especially when I'm stoned. I have no problems with math. I can't get the spell check to work since they changed the sight. I spend my time learning to grow better. If you knew me I would hook you up with a ballast for some bud my building full of them. As a electrician most ballasts come encased in a light. It takes a ballast and a LAMP to have light. Your light broke.
 

HBOMB82

Member
You must of had bad luck. Every time I deal with them they get me my stuff fast and at low cost. Maybe its Karma dude.
 

TheWinter

Active Member
Plantlightinghydroponics.com A.K.A. Aladdins lights suck BIG TIME. About a year ago I began a search for the equipment to build/design a grow room. I went to local shops and looked online. After comparing the prices of the two I decided to go online with a company called Plant lightinghydroponics.com A.K.A. Aladdins lights out of twinsburg ohio. BIG MISTAKE!!! I ordered over $3000.00 worth of equipment. Three Electronic NEXTGEN 1000 watt ballasts, high end bulbs, carbon filters, controllers, ect. No expense was spared. When I received the equipment I opened the ballasts to find that they had scratches and tool marks on the fasteners. I immediatly called PLH and spoke with one of the managers Jeff. He assured me that the ballast were new and they did not ever sell used or refurbished equipment. Being in a crunch for time, I just wanted to get things started so I dropped the issue. I figured if I had a problem with the NEXTGEN ballasts I could always rely on the manufactures 5 year warranty. WRONG!!!

Side note: I was warned about buying equipment from online vendors from local hydro shops and here on RIU. They said that returns would be a nightmare if even possible, customer service is poor to say the least, and that there were a lot of fly-by-night companies that just won't be in business when it comes time to make warranty claim. I DID NOT listen to these critics, mainly because there was a significant difference in the $$$$$ amount between my local shop and these online vendors. In my case around $1,400.00 difference.

lo and behold six months into my operation one of the NEXTGEN 1000 watt ballasts failed. Just quit working. Supposidly your able to self diagnose these ballast but this thing was DEAD. Fortunatly for me I bought (3) of these ballasts and was only using (2). So I switched out the dead ballast for the backup one and was instructed by Jeff @ PLH to send the broken ballast back to Custom Automated Products, C.A.P; which i did. He stated that if the ballast was deemed defective they would send me a "new" ballast. Three weeks went by and I heard nothing. I called Plant lighting hydroponics (AKA Aladdins lights) and this time spoke with another manager Mike. He told me that in fact the ballast was shot and C.A.P had sent me out a "new" ballast. That was this past monday. Well today I received the "new" ballast. Except the ballsat isn't new. They sent me a refurbished unit:fire: ...WTF...So I call the jokers at PLH and the manager Mike tells me that they must of fixed my ballast and just sent it back instead of a new one. I tell him the there are stickers all over the box that say REFURBISHED and the invoice says: replace with REFURB. He tells me that he is going to call CAP and call me right back. :wall: He calls back and says, Custom Automated Products policy is: If the ballast breaks within 90 days of purchase then they would have sent me a new ballast. But since it was outside of the 90 days (180Days) it is their option to send me a refurbished or new unit. WTF...If you look at NEXTGEN ballasts their BIG selling point is their 5 YEAR WARRANTY. Fucking Bullshit. CAPS warranty card that comes with each ballast states: 5 YEAR WARRANTY (3 years 100% and 2 years prorated.) So I called CAP today and they told me the same bullshit. I asked the lady at CAP, why doesn't the warranty card state anything about this 90 day bullshit? She did not have an answer. I asked her if she thinks it might be important to add this imformation to the warranty card for the benefit of customers and potential customers? She stated that she would "speak to the higher ups" about my concerns but that was their company policy.

This has got to be illegal. PLH, CAP, and the likes need to be put out of business through boycotts. We growers need to mobilize and force these bootleg companies to give us the service and products we deserve. Just because what many of us do is considered taboo and illegal in some situations, we are subjected to overpricing, no return policies, poorly designed products, shitty customer service, and an overall POOR experience.

Just warning all of you growers who were considering CAP equipment, you might want to reconsider. The reason I went with NEXTGEN ballast is because of their 5 year warranty. Filthy liars. And as far as PLH a.k.a ALLADIN LIGHTS, all of the warnings about online vendors proved to be true with them. I have never dealt with such a poorly run business in my life. From the manager to the employees, all are worthless. There were several other issues I had with PLH but I have spent enough time on these crooks.
I don't get why your saying PLH are crooks, filthy liars, which need to be put out of business. They did what they were supposed to. CAP is alright too, I've bought all kinds of cheap ass products from them, and yea, the risk is higher they will break, and I have broken them. Especially e-ballasts, which you should never go cheap on. Magnetic is another story. Anyways, PLH worked with you, CAP honored their warranty. They sent you a refurb like 80% of the cheap manufacturers do when a part goes out. Talkin about mobilizing against these bootleg companies? Cause of some customer service issues? Look man, you got ahold of them and they worked with you. Thats not a bootleg company. i can tell you don't work with a lot of online suppliers. you get the wrong one and you wont be able to post names of all the managers you talked to, because no one will answer the phone at all.

I'm actually looking at buying a set of 1000w bulbs and they have the best prices I have seen so far. I might consider buying from them, thanks for turning me on to their website. If anyone knows of a shop with cheaper bulb prices let me know, I am looking for generic, not hortilux.
 
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