Next Harvest Setup. Comments and Opinions Please

DGT309

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So time for another time around with Sunshine #6, 20 1000W HPS, 5 Gallon Buckets and 35 woman. Including 2-3 foot tall Durban Poison, Blue Magoo, 21, Vortex, Qrazy Train, Jilly Bean, Agent Orange, Pandora's Box, Heavy Duty Fruity, Bruce Banner #3, Houston Shoreline and Lavender. Also 2 under each light, spread apart and 5 lights dedicated to 5 special women. Otherwise advanced nutrients, good ducting with intake/exhaust and a bunch of fans with a CO2 burner. Otherwise I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or predictions of how this might turn out. Thanks for the input and happy harvest buds.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

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Not a soil grower but 5 gallon buckets with 1-2 plants under 1000 watts? Seems like you would either need bigger buckets to handle the bigger plants or you could put more plants per light. I base this simply on the fact of 1 gallon of bucket for every foot of vertical growth, seems like you are going to be growing trees, or at least tree sized bushes.
I wish i could justify/sustain/fit 20 1000 watt lights, but those are only dreams to me, probably be legal be for i could do anything that large. Good luck and would love to see pics of the set up.
 

xebeche

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"...I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or predictions of how this might turn out."

LOL, I predict you'll grow a whole lot of fine weed. :mrgreen:

I'd like to see some pics as well. Sounds like a sweet setup.
 

DGT309

Active Member
Well that was really my only concern outside the possibility of having any mold issues, otherwise would you think that I would need more like 7 or 10 gallon buckets. I would have more per light, but then there's the issue of shadowing and dedicating lower branches to hash only. So in this case, would you think the roots would be popping out of the 5gals by the end of it?
 

zem

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20 x 1000w i would put at least 100 plants in there and still they will need a good vegging period. top them and tie tall branches make a good canopy, the 1000w have good penetration, not much popcorn if done right, you don't have to do scrog, just train branches sideways, the tiny branches at bottom of stems can be cut. have you considered vertical setups?
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
I am in agreement, you can pack plants under a 1000 watt and still get good penetration, esp if using a quality hood. I do not grow soil, but everything i have read is if you use a 5 gallon bucket for large plants you will get root bound, they do make smart pots, not sure how big they make them nor how sturdy they would be at that size, but those are meant to prevent root binding. I think if you are growing them that big to use 1-2 per 1000 then you will need at least a 10 gallon bucket, i couldn't ever do that few under a light though, not my style, i am the guy who comes into gardens like yours and just scratches his head, good air flow, good lighting, pack em in tight, if there is light hitting the floor, it is being wasted. Just my opinion though. Good luck, would love pics!!!!
 

DGT309

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Well last time around there was almost double the amount, we still have 25 gallon smartpots left which they are probably going into instead of using the 5 gallon smart pots. And yes I know I can pack 100 under there if I wanted, but would you rather more buds on less plants or less buds and have more plants? They'll get better attention and not be toppling over eachother.
 

zem

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5 plants under each 1000w is not overcrowded at all imo. 1 plant per light you might need to veg for months to get full benefit from lights, that's all
 

a mongo frog

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6 plants in 10 gallon pots per 1000 watt. i assume your doing a 2 car doozie. if your using co2 forget about the intake. and if your exausting u need a controller. youll also need a really good a/c. im a little confused. u have ran this before right? u actually need 120 plants in there to make your roll back. im not being cocky. i just know. youll have a 4000 dollar electric bill a month,your house payment, soil and nutes. so make sure u have the number of plants and pot size down. theres actually a great way to do it, if u want to know my opinion let me know.
 

DGT309

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Already got the soil, electric bill is about a third of what you'd think, got nutes already and the intake/exhaust is off when the co2 is on. I'm still determining what size smart pots to use based on funds. So if you give plants more light they don't end up with higher yields if they are topped right or are vegged tall enough?
 

a mongo frog

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if your dedicating 1 or 2 plant to a 1000 watt then your already rich. u have heard the term monster crop. 35 plants with 20 1000s isnt a monster crop. its sack religious.
 

zem

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dude what about a/c? for a 20kw grow, pots are the smallest investment to worry about, get some big growbags very cheap sold by weight, whatever you do don't compromise pot size for funds, maybe do one less light with the right number of plants and size of pots
 

DGT309

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Well we have 25 gallon pots we used the last time and I was thinking more like 7 or 10 gallon smart pots. I understand that you can stack plants next to eachother and fit like 70-120 in there, but still no answer to my question if you have more light per plant, won't you end up with larger numbers per plant? And as far as AC, this crop is to fund things like AC in a warehouse, which is the reason for the intake/exhaust...which is timed to be off when the CO2 burner is on.
 

a mongo frog

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the anwser is no, if u put 6 plants in 10 gallon pots with one 1000 watt light u will yield more than with 1 or 2 plants under a 1000 watt light. u would still veg the same way no matter what. unless u dont have the room but i think u do. look at my pics on my page. those r 10 gallon pots dedicated 6 per 1000 watt. using sunshine mix #4. 2 different veg heights
 

DGT309

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Well thanks for the advice and Im not trying to argue, I have been working with setups with more like 3/4 per light, so I haven't been "sack religious", I just wanted to experiment with different setups and see what will work best.
 

DGT309

Active Member
Well props mango, what kind of yields were you ending up with, or any idea what kind of numbers you ended up with per plant. Last time around I was working with 25s, but 7s or 10s would definitely, be a good in between point because that was a little overkill.
 

a mongo frog

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thanks, i run a low yielding strain. 18 pallots of flooring i get with 12 workers working above. the co2 has really helped.
 

zem

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1 plant per light i think you will have to veg like 5 months to get same yield as 6 or more plants
 

Stalwart

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Well that was really my only concern outside the possibility of having any mold issues, otherwise would you think that I would need more like 7 or 10 gallon buckets. I would have more per light, but then there's the issue of shadowing and dedicating lower branches to hash only. So in this case, would you think the roots would be popping out of the 5gals by the end of it?
Silica is the bomb for mold and strengthens stems, all good huh? Then of course a humistat is also handy lol

The ole Krusty Freedom Bucket put each plant in the center of a 6ft space ie a checkerboard where each black square is e a light and a red square is a plant. He expanded his buckets to get 6.4 gals which finished his TREEZ just about right!

The critical factors of light air and water will always be limitations but CO2 Hydroponics and Ventilation are the way toward the best budd you ever tasted. The market is very limited and if you keep trying you will find some weed that just blows you away!
 
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