New Question About Caregivers

tet1953

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Ok we have the new law. It says that caregivers still have to register. Is that once, or for each patient still? And do we therefore still have to say who the patient is? The reason I am asking this question is, the new law says patients can be anonymous to the state if they wish to be. If somebody like that wants me to be their caregiver, I shouldn't have to violate that anonymity. This just isn't clear to me, maybe I need to read some more.
 

tet1953

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Family member in same household, yeah. But what if it isn't even a family member who wants me to be their caregiver? And they choose not to regisiter as a patient. If I have to say who I am caregiving for when I register, I am violating that aren't I?
 

mdanforth

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you need to register for each patient, each year.....no patient info will be given to the state.....the state will have new forms for caregivers by the time the law takes effect
 

ink the world

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So theoretically a caregiver would just submit this new form and fees. Theres no mention of any patient info on the form, so how are they gonna be able to even confirm that you really even have a patient?
 

ink the world

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correct, Its up to you to stay compliant.....
im kind of suprised this part got through. Heres why:

If the state doesnt have the patients name or doctors name, does the caregiver have to keep a copy of the patients doctor form? If not, there would be no way to prove a grow was not a legitimate MMJ operation if the patient didnt want to register.
So theoretically one could just say "im growing for 5 patients, none of them are registered", pay the fees and be legal; or at least apparently legal.
 

nl3004.kind

Active Member
compliance is determined by legal status... if you try to do it afterward, it can be characterized by leo as trying to "game the system"... if they kick your door down, no amount of bs is gonna keep you from getting hauled off...
 

ink the world

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compliance is determined by legal status... if you try to do it afterward, it can be characterized by leo as trying to "game the system"... if they kick your door down, no amount of bs is gonna keep you from getting hauled off...
Of course, I agree 100%....my point is more that it becomes almost foolproof to game the system as it will be.

I'm a registered caregiver already, i have no need to game the system. Say someone comes to me with a doctors rec. and says they do not want to register. How am I as a caregiver supposed to prove that my patient is actually legitimate if I or the state have no copy of their doctors recommendation? Or lets say I do have a copy of the patients recommendation, are they then going to go and contact the doctor to ensure that it is a legitimate recommendation? I wouldnt want my doctor discussing my medical history with anyone to begin with., Thats kind of the point of the law isnt it, to make sure patients have confidentiality?

With the new aggression on the federal level, especially the federal memo specifically about MMJ caregivers and dispensaries i have to admit sometimes I wish I hadnt registered as a caregiver. When I have some time this fall i'll be seeing Sulak to get my patients recommendation.
 

mdanforth

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6. Written certification. "Written certification" means a document on tamper-resistant paper signed by a physician and stating that , that expires in one year and that states that in the physician's professional opinion a patient is likely to receive therapeutic or palliative benefit from the medical use of marijuana to treat or alleviate the patient's debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition. A written certification may be made only in the course of a bona fide physician-patient relationship after the physician has completed a full assessment of the qualifying patient's medical history. The written certification must specify the qualifying patient's debilitating medical condition.

6. Written certification. "Written certification" means a document on tamper-resistant paper signed by a physician and stating that , that expires in one year and that states that in the physician's professional opinion a patient is likely to receive therapeutic or palliative benefit from the medical use of marijuana to treat or alleviate the patient's debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition. A written certification may be made only in the course of a bona fide physician-patient relationship after the physician has completed a full assessment of the qualifying patient's medical history. The written certification must specify the qualifying patient's debilitating medical condition.

The qualifying patient must designate the primary caregiver or registered dispensary to cultivate for the patient in a standardized written document, developed by the department, signed and dated by the qualifying patient, which must include a one-year expiration, the total number of mature plants the primary caregiver is designated to cultivate and the signed acknowledgment of the primary caregiver that the primary caregiver may be contacted to confirm the designation of the primary caregiver to cultivate for the patient and the number of mature plants to be cultivated and being cultivated for the patient or the signed acknowledgment of a person on behalf of the registered dispensary that the registered dispensary may be contacted to confirm the designation of the dispensary to cultivate for the patient and the number of mature plants to be cultivated and being cultivated for the patient;


PM me and I'll try to help with better explanations.....
 
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