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trichlone fiend

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can you give me a good reason why?

and who asks for rep?
...reason why, he's just get'n started and I'm sure a larger container will take longer to dry out, and more than likely he'll be overwatering. This is only an assumtion that he'd overwater.
...and the reason I'm "asking" for rep is because I really didn't want to type all that, but I did....this thread was carried over from another thread, btw.
 

tommy gibbs

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so, i noticed theres a few gnats flyin around in there. not a ton, but id like to nip it in the bud asap. is spraying them with really diluted soapy water still an acceptble practice?
 

ScrogThis

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Make sure your area is clean, no dead or decaying plant material, let your soil dry out between waterings at least the first inch or so to kill most of the larvae and eggs, kill the rest with a fairly strong mixture of H2O2 & water applied to the soil (mix 1 part regular 3% hydrogen peroxide to 4 parts water), sticky traps work pretty well for adults (No-Pest strip). I've heard vinegar and dish liquid in a small open container will work but I haven't tried it. If all that doesn't work then apply a pyrethrum-based insecticide. I'm not a fan of spraying dish liquid on my plants though many folks advocate success with that method, maybe a very diluted mixture of vegetable glycerin and cinnamon oil but be careful to not to overdo it and clog the stomata.
 

Dowd1

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Ok here goes.First off i agree you should have a good soil,however i wouldnt buy any speciality brand because its just way overpriced.When i do soil grows i get a bail of peat moss from home depot a couple of bags of perlite.This comes out to be less in price compared to fox farms (20 dollars for peat at 3 cubic feet,perlite and 2 pots vs. 1 bag of fox farm at 18 dollars and is only 2 cubic feet) or any other speciality mix and you have plenty of peat moss left for other grows versus youll have to get a couple more bags of designer soil mixes.mix 60/40 peat/perlite.The peat moss is very airey and the perlite helps with the drainage.Also peat moss is a nuetral base which helps keep ph in your soil.Ive used this combo for years before i started an ebb and flow, dispite everyone telling me that I was going to get into trouble ( i.e. mold,fungus,) I actually found it quite pleasant to work with.Start off with small pots, one quart pots are good to start with,or in your case a good size dixey cup.Germinate your seeds first by soaking your seeds in a shot glass of water either till they sink or they start to crack the shells( i usually wait till they crack)plant them about 3/4 to an inch below the surface stick under your light and watch.
Secondly i have sprouted many plants under a 600 watt HPS,You dont need a screen to shade them and the light is not too much for them. just keep the light at about 3 feet and as they grow to the light slowely lower it.just watch for any kind of stress.if they start to stress raise the light back up. My theory behind this is that if you grow outside you dont start off puting them under floros then move them to the sun, No you put them in the ground right under the sun.Why not use the light source you are going to grow with from start to finish.And there will be no light stress going from a floro to an HID which can set you back a bit.
As for watering,when tou fill your pots with your new medium do the wieght test.Pick up the pot get a feel for the whieght of the pot with dry soil then water it.only water till liquid just starts to come out the bottom. Dont water till she feels light again.This works for all pot sizes.
 

rzza

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...really? I put seeds straight into FFOF all the time, never an issue.
but he has tried this already and burned his genetics so why would we advise him to do it again?

...reason why, he's just get'n started and I'm sure a larger container will take longer to dry out, and more than likely he'll be overwatering. This is only an assumtion that he'd overwater.
...and the reason I'm "asking" for rep is because I really didn't want to type all that, but I did....this thread was carried over from another thread, btw.
im aware this carried over from his last thread, i chimed in there also... rather then saying to transplant (esp since hes having difficulties) lets just say, dont overwater.

dont ask for rep, its pathetic.
 

rzza

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you can use all perlite if ya want so yeah you can use whatever youd like. just remember that its arguably the most important part of your environment.
 

trichlone fiend

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but he has tried this already and burned his genetics so why would we advise him to do it again?
...he was in MG ass.



im aware this carried over from his last thread, i chimed in there also... rather then saying to transplant (esp since hes having difficulties) lets just say, dont overwater.

dont ask for rep, its pathetic.
...don't tell me what to do dude.... fuck you, this is my world.
 

rzza

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lol keep thinking that, is that avatar you or you just have similar size heads?
 

trichlone fiend

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he burned his plants right? it was from the nutes in his soil right?

...dude, bug off. He was in Miracle Grow time released soil! ...he needs better soil, wtf? ...anyhow, your doing exactly what he mentioned in his last thread, sending him down some fucked up direction. It's all good though, I got mine....tell him how to fuck his crop up dawg, it's alllllllllllll you.
 

ScrogThis

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Guys! I'm not claiming to be the thread police or anything but I find it pretty rude to bring your squabble over here and trash yet another thread for this guy. If you don't have anything useful to add, please take your name calling elsewhere. This is exactly WHY he started a new thread!
 

rzza

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for one i havent called anyone names. secondly, if you dont think this info is useful then you should open your eyes a little.

since your not adding anything about soil/medium then in fact YOUR the one thats rudly bring squabble in the trhead.
 

trichlone fiend

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https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/359511-ffof-too-strong.html

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/376107-ffof-seedlings.html

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/349568-nute-burn-ffof.html

so its obvious that your suggestion to use ffof for his seedlings is indeed sending him down the same road he just got off. using pro mix or the like would clearly be his best bet.

...all I can speak on is what I've done myself, I've planted seeds directly into fox farm ocean forest and have had no problems....why these other threads you've directed me to are having their issues are beyond me. But, yeah....I'm done....I'm goin to go ask for rep somewhere I guess, right rzza?
 

rzza

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lol yes go ahead. but ftr, im suggesting he uses a synthetic soil or at least something without any nutes. your suggesting he uses ffof. many threads on here state they have big problems with ffof burning their seedlings. this guy is having problems burning seedlings. so do we suggest he uses ffof or promix? just go ahead and answer that question before you go... and here i got some rep for that ass ..
 

trichlone fiend

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lol yes go ahead. but ftr, im suggesting he uses a synthetic soil or at least something without any nutes. your suggesting he uses ffof. many threads on here state they have big problems with ffof burning their seedlings. this guy is having problems burning seedlings. so do we suggest he uses ffof or promix? just go ahead and answer that question before you go... and here i got some rep for that ass ..
...ight, your right, promix consist of petemoss, vermiculite, perlite, and I believe they also add lime...so, sure the stuff will be great to start seedlings...however, it will take more management...this guy is a novice, and again, I'd assume that the fertilizing that would be needed near immediately after germination will complicate things for'em... do you agree that promix will be more to manage?
 

Smucker G

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Scotts is miracle grow bro....toss it, you'll have more problems than you'll ever be able to figure out. MG has time released fertilizers that are released by waterings, the more you water...the more is released...garbage soil to start with, and this is more than likely your problem. Go to a hydro store, get some Fox Farm's Ocean Forest, it's really good shit....Roots organic has been getting alot of attention lately also, however, I can only speak on FFOF, I love the stuff....it's pure organic, and if you want superior results, I'd suggest you stay organic while using it. I like to fertilize FFOF with organic teas.
All I use is MG and it is fine. Check out this thread. It is MG vs Fox https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/373397-test-progress-miracle-grow-soil.html MG wins.
Not sure what your problem is. I would use more perlite to help drainage.
Good luck.
 
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