New Grower, please help diagnose

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teqniq

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I am trying out an Aerogarden grow, and have run into an issue in my 3rd week. Here is what I've got to work with:

Autoflower Blueberry
Temp: 75-77
Humidity: ranging from 15-30%
Ph: 6.5-6.9 in week 1, 6.0 since..



I started using diluted nutrients in week 1, based off a recommended schedule on the "aeroweed" website and it looked fine. But in the beginning of week 2 is when the leaves started to warp and get yellow spots, so I flushed and ran with 6.0 PH distilled water. It looked a little better, but it's now in week 3 (16 days in) and the leaves were still warping and the yellow spots are still showing up. The yellowing seems maybe calcium or Boron related, but could this also have been from feeding nutes too early? I have not seen any info or related photos anywhere on the warped leaves.

Can anyone help me identify what the issue is?
 
HarryCooter

HarryCooter

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teqniq said:
I am trying out an Aerogarden grow, and have run into an issue in my 3rd week. Here is what I've got to work with:

Autoflower Blueberry
Temp: 75-77
Humidity: ranging from 15-30%
Ph: 6.5-6.9 in week 1, 6.0 since..



I started using diluted nutrients in week 1, based off a recommended schedule on the "aeroweed" website and it looked fine. But in the beginning of week 2 is when the leaves started to warp and get yellow spots, so I flushed and ran with 6.0 PH distilled water. It looked a little better, but it's now in week 3 (16 days in) and the leaves were still warping and the yellow spots are still showing up. The yellowing seems maybe calcium or Boron related, but could this also have been from feeding nutes too early? I have not seen any info or related photos anywhere on the warped leaves.

Can anyone help me identify what the issue is?
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It's a micro nutrient deficiency. I always recommend everyone have ej microblast on hand. Give it a foliar spray with some of that and your new growth should be normal.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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teqniq said:
I am trying out an Aerogarden grow, and have run into an issue in my 3rd week. Here is what I've got to work with:

Autoflower Blueberry
Temp: 75-77
Humidity: ranging from 15-30%
Ph: 6.5-6.9 in week 1, 6.0 since..



I started using diluted nutrients in week 1, based off a recommended schedule on the "aeroweed" website and it looked fine. But in the beginning of week 2 is when the leaves started to warp and get yellow spots, so I flushed and ran with 6.0 PH distilled water. It looked a little better, but it's now in week 3 (16 days in) and the leaves were still warping and the yellow spots are still showing up. The yellowing seems maybe calcium or Boron related, but could this also have been from feeding nutes too early? I have not seen any info or related photos anywhere on the warped leaves.

Can anyone help me identify what the issue is?
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If temps are what you say, 75-77.
Why does your meter show that the temp hit a low of 52 degrees and a high of 84?
 
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teqniq

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HarryCooter said:
It's a micro nutrient deficiency. I always recommend everyone have ej microblast on hand. Give it a foliar spray with some of that and your new growth should be normal.
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Thanks for the tip! I ordered some and will give that a shot when it arrives.

Kushash said:
If temps are what you say, 75-77.
Why does your meter show that the temp hit a low of 52 degrees and a high of 84?
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I brought the thermometer down to my basement to see if the temp was warm enough to move the setup down there (where the humidity is better)

Pig4buzz said:
Looks like needs some cal-mag
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Sorry, should have mentioned that I added 5ml of CaliMagic to the water.

I am also going to add a CFL light to supplement the LEDs and see if that also helps.
 
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Tim1987

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teqniq said:
Thanks for the tip! I ordered some and will give that a shot when it arrives.


I brought the thermometer down to my basement to see if the temp was warm enough to move the setup down there (where the humidity is better)


Sorry, should have mentioned that I added 5ml of CaliMagic to the water.

I am also going to add a CFL light to supplement the LEDs and see if that also helps.
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Excess calmag. Will do exactly what you're experiencing.
Believe me. Been there. Done that.
You have nitrogen, magnesium, calcium and iron, all going on at the same time there.
You stated you've been feeding, and adding calmag.
No way you can be deficient in so many things at once, in a plant that young. :peace:
 
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teqniq

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Tim1987 said:
Make sure your reservoir temps, and Oxy is fine too.
Check for rot.

But I think it's your calmag.
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I didn't think about the calmag.. I am using distilled water cause my tap water is super hard, so I need the calmag, but I looked at the bottle and I am adding 1ml more than recommended. Is it that touchy?

Water temp is around 75, I have an air stone in there, and the roots look clean and healthy.
 
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Tim1987

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teqniq said:
I didn't think about the calmag.. I am using distilled water cause my tap water is super hard, so I need the calmag, but I looked at the bottle and I am adding 1ml more than recommended. Is it that touchy?

Water temp is around 75, I have an air stone in there, and the roots look clean and healthy.
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If you have hard water like I do.
For shizzle my nizzle.

It's how I found out, I barely EVER need it. :peace:
 
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Tim1987

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teqniq said:
Have you been running with your tap water or using distilled water?
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I use tap water. I very quickly found out I don't need it.
RO or distilled is a blessing.
You can have too much of a good thing.
If I add calmag to my feed every time. Your plants symptoms is what I get in return.

I suggest cutting your calmag. Whether it be some of it. Or all of it. See if it improves.
You've already been adding, and it isn't any better.

It's a small plant.
What's your ppms???
I doubt you need more than 3-400.
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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golden yellow spotting on leaves is magnesium deficiency. a well-rounded fert like dynagrow and not much else might be a good idea to use. it can take a couple of days for symptoms to go away if it's calcium or mag. Please type more of what ferts you're using as it's impossible to give a better answer unless all the details are known. these spots could also be caused by some other problem, so don't forget that fact. a well-rounded fert has helped out many growers.
 
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teqniq

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Tim1987 said:
I use tap water. I very quickly found out I don't need it.
RO or distilled is a blessing.
You can have too much of a good thing.
If I add calmag to my feed every time. Your plants symptoms is what I get in return.

I suggest cutting your calmag. Whether it be some of it. Or all of it. See if it improves.
You've already been adding, and it isn't any better.

It's a small plant.
What's your ppms???
I doubt you need more than 3-400.
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ppms are 407

polishpollack said:
golden yellow spotting on leaves is magnesium deficiency. a well-rounded fert like dynagrow and not much else might be a good idea to use. it can take a couple of days for symptoms to go away if it's calcium or mag. Please type more of what ferts you're using as it's impossible to give a better answer unless all the details are known. these spots could also be caused by some other problem, so don't forget that fact. a well-rounded fert has helped out many growers.
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Here is what my schedule has been. I was following the schedule over at the aeroweed website

Week 1: 1 gallon Distilled Water
General Hydro FloraMicro: 1.25ml
General Hydro FloraGro: 1.25ml
General Hydro FloraBloom: 1.25ml
CaliMagic: 5ml
Botanicare Hydroguard: 2ml

Plant was looking good

Week 2: 1 gallon Distilled Water
General Hydro FloraMicro: 2.5ml
General Hydro FloraGro: 2.5ml
General Hydro FloraBloom: 2.5ml
CaliMagic: 5ml
Botanicare Hydroguard: 2ml

Plant had little spots and leaves were warped at about day 7-8, then the leaves started getting worse. At day 10 is when I realized I may have made a mistake by adding nutes during the 1st two weeks, so I flushed and put in distilled water with no CaliMag or Nutrients.

Week 3: 1 gallon Distilled Water (also the day I started this post)
General Hydro FloraMicro: 1.25ml
General Hydro FloraGro: 1.25ml
General Hydro FloraBloom: 1.25ml
CaliMagic: 5ml
Botanicare Hydroguard: 2ml

I am now at Day 17. The new leaves look good, but so did the older ones before they started spotting and warping. The second set of leaves in the first photo still look the same today. (spotting at the end, but the base looks decent) My fingers are crossed that is a sign that whatever was the issue is now gone??

I added some more pics..
 

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Tim1987

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What's the nitrogen% on your calmag?
How many ppms does the calmag bump your water up to? Before your nutes.
Calmag at 5mL is the only thing in your reservoir you haven't changed.
It's concerning to me, that you're adding more calmag than your base nutrient. You're depriving your plant of vital nutrition.

Silly analogy, but you wouldn't take a whole packet of multivitamins in a day, because the doctor told you they were good for you.

Calmag is just a supplement for your plant. Right now you're feeding it all supplements and barely any proper food.

IMHO cut your calmag.
Up your base nutes a little.
Keep ppms the same.
 
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teqniq

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Tim1987 said:
What's the nitrogen% on your calmag?
How many ppms does the calmag bump your water up to? Before your nutes.
Calmag at 5mL is the only thing in your reservoir you haven't changed.
It's concerning to me, that you're adding more calmag than your base nutrient. You're depriving your plant of vital nutrition.

Silly analogy, but you wouldn't take a whole packet of multivitamins in a day, because the doctor told you they were good for you.

Calmag is just a supplement for your plant. Right now you're feeding it all supplements and barely any proper food.

IMHO cut your calmag.
Up your base nutes a little.
Keep ppms the same.
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1% Nitrogen in the calmag

I didn't check the ppm before adding the calmag

I was following this schedule from aeroweed, which ramps up the nutrients.. I'm now wishing I looked around a bit more before blindly following it.
I apparently can't post links yet, so I uploaded the graphic.

I was nervous to add more nutes so quickly after the flush, so I started back at the week one measurements. Should I flush now and bump up to 2.5ml on the nutes?
nutrient-schedule-marijuana-aerogarden-full.png
 
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Tim1987

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I can't say for sure dude. I'm sorry.
But I can tell you what I would do.
I would follow the directions of your nutrient bottle.
I would also do a fresh reservoir change. With 2-300 ppm of your base. No calmag.
I'd give it several hours, to see how it responds. Maybe top it off with a little extra later.
Start low. Give the plant a breather. Then start bumping up your ppms.
You may need calmag down the road. But IMHO you don't need any right now :peace:

That's what I would do.
 
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Tim1987

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Just check you nutrient bottle too.
It should already have calcium, magnesium and iron, in very similar amounts to your calmag.
If it doesn't. Post back here with the numbers, and I can help you dose some calmag :peace:

Good luck dude.
 
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