new grower here really need help please

PiffinTon

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so here are my plants i bought a few clones from a caregiver there were only 2 weeks old so far i have been veggin for 8 weeks is that bad to do heard from my guru thats its good dot do any input..
so i have a deficiency i just not sure which ones. i a, join to post pics of my bitches please any advice can help me i already no they are over watered like i said first time grower.

now i use flora duo a&b as well i used great white root booster an cal mag i i grow in coco . some one said i have bugs i don't know how i can tell also i heard haven a purple stem is bad is that true?

also 2 of the clones are shorter an more branchy then the rest
 

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bf80255

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they look pretty well maintained, a little wild and in need of an transplant soon imo but generally healthy aside from tge leaf damage. it look almost like thrip damage to me but i cant be sure have you seen any bugs under leaves or on them? purple stems could be genetic or an issue with feeding/temperature did thwy start purple?
 

PiffinTon

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they look pretty well maintained, a little wild and in need of an transplant soon imo but generally healthy aside from tge leaf damage. it look almost like thrip damage to me but i cant be sure have you seen any bugs under leaves or on them? purple stems could be genetic or an issue with feeding/temperature did thwy start purple?
yes camre to find out i do have thrips am working on getting rid of those i jus trans planted them a weeks ago
 

Gramaw49

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what can i do about my clones every plant i have is female all plants are
I don't understand the question. Are the smaller plants the clones?

When you over-water, you deplete your growing medium of its nutrients. So now you need to feed. If you trim those ladies up a bit, you'll get a better yield and slow the growth down a bit for a short period of time (which would be beneficial to them right now). Have you researched scrog'ing and/or manifolds?
 

PiffinTon

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I don't understand the question. Are the smaller plants the clones?

When you over-water, you deplete your growing medium of its nutrients. So now you need to feed. If you trim those ladies up a bit, you'll get a better yield and slow the growth down a bit for a short period of time (which would be beneficial to them right now). Have you researched scrog'ing and/or manifolds?
no i have not nor have i heard of any of those terms and yes the smaller ones are the clones what do you mean wen you say trim them ?
 

Gramaw49

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no i have not nor have i heard of any of those terms and yes the smaller ones are the clones what do you mean wen you say trim them ?
Oh, goodness ... You've asked some loaded questions. LOL

First, when we suggest trimming, we mean your bigger plants, not the small ones in your pics. (Your clones will be ready for training when they have at least 5 nodes.) Main-lining, manifolding, scrogging -- these are all different terms that basically mean the same thing: Train your plants to grow the way you want them to grow. Generally, we want shorter, bushier plants rather than tall trees, especially for indoor grows. Have you noticed how there is always one nice size cola on the top of a plant? If you can make the plant grow 6 "tops" and produce 6 of those bigger colas, isn't that better?? That's why we trim and train.

There is a grower named "Nebula Haze" (username, obviously) who has a great tutorial. It's worth reading and learning.
Take a look at this link: http://www.growweedeasy.com/main-lining-technique-nugbuckets

Your clones are quite a bit smaller than the other plants, so they won't be ready to switch to the bloom / flowering cycle at the same time as the bigger plants. Are you prepared for that? You'll need enough light to cover 2 grow areas, each with its own light cycle (24/0 or 18/6 for vegetative stage, and 12/12 for flowering stage.)
 

PiffinTon

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Yes I am I also have a small grow tent I can use for My clones. I will look at nebula haze post but I want them short bulky coals. How can I do this I'm new to this most of the time .I research an just try it I Bro bought chemicals to help with getting dense bulky bugs
 

Gramaw49

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Yes I am I also have a small grow tent I can use for My clones. I will look at nebula haze post but I want them short bulky coals. How can I do this I'm new to this most of the time .I research an just try it I Bro bought chemicals to help with getting dense bulky bugs
You're in the right place for being new to growing. The more you read and learn, the better your grow will be. I like Nebula Haze's stuff for learning, and I like this site for its forums and topic-specific chats. I think most of us old timers grow organically and don't advocate the use of "chemicals" -- but did you perhaps mean "nutrients"? (There is a vocabulary thread you might want to read. It is under Newbie Central at https://www.rollitup.org/t/vocabulary-slang-terms-updated-with-the-missing-terms.412440/ )

Since you are new to this, my advice to you is:
1) Take 1 or 2 of your bigger plants to trim. Leave the others alone.
2) Trim one of them using the manifold method;
3) If you want to trim another one, use a different method.
4) When your clones are bigger and have at least 5 nodes, trim half of them using the methods of your choice.

If you take the above approach, you won't mess up ALL of your plants, in case you make a mistake or three. And you'll learn which training method(s) work best for YOU. We all have our own preferences. Then on your next grow, you can trim your plants from the beginning in the way that you want. (It's possible that you'll end up with a male or two, and if it happens to be the plant(s) you've trimmed, at least you got the experience of trimming! If you end up with males, put them outside away from the females, let them grow till they produce little flower-looking things, then chop them to make butter!)

If you are growing bag seeds, there's no real way to know what characteristics your strain has. But as you learn and improve your skills, it's worth investing in some seeds that have the characteristics you particularly like. Some of them, for example, grow bushier (naturally) than others. Some of them aren't very suited to trimming and only do well when grown as trees (though most of those strains are so unpopular that they are hard to even find). Point is: Each strain is different and grows differently and requires different techniques for maximum yield.

Your clones need to go in your tent at this point, OR you need to raise them closer to the light. They are stretching because they aren't close enough to their light source, which you can't lower because of your larger plants. If I were you, I'd separate them now. Your other, bigger plants are nearly ready to switch to the bloom cycle, anyway.
 
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