New grow setup, using 1 room in house, areoponics, need recommendations on what to do

Taquito35

Member
Hi guys and thanks for taking the time to read this, i really need some help in determining exactly what i would like to do w/ my grow...i plan on buying 275 ibc totes ( http://compare.ebay.com/like/120604251402?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y ) cutting the top off of them, making a plexiglass ( or some other material if anyone had a better idea ) top, drilling 4 or 5 inch holes in diameter and using netpots w/ just rockwool cubes or maybe some other medium (depending on what recommendations i get) and putting about 25 plants in these chambers w/ a LED light.... also i was thinking about getting a second 50 gallon tote ( http://www.thetoolworkshop.com/rubbermaid50galjumbostoragetote2550cpcylnd.aspx ) and using this as a reservoir, a submersable pump, ( http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=submersible+pump&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=ivnsr&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1042&bih=823&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7746747894634133078&sa=X&ei=dqskTujQBofiiAKxp932CQ&ved=0CJkBEPMCMAQ# ) hooking it up to a PVC pipe grid that i mount about halfway up the 275 gallon tote on the inside, (i was thinking an outter square in PVC pipe w/ 2 limbs going across the middle of the square, so a square w/ 2 bars in the middle of it)

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then drilling a bunch of holes on the top of the pvc pipe grid and putting in some really FINE misters ( http://cgi.ebay.com/25-EZ-Clone-360-Degree-Mister-Spray-Jet-Head-Sprinkle-/130545276551 ) to spray the roots in the chamber w/ a fine mist of nutrient water solution.. now that you know what kind of setup im trying to use, here come the real questions.... once again, i appreciate your time and recommendations for I really need some help, i've done countless hours of research and i just cant find all my answers....

1) should i do 25 plants? would 20 or 15 even be more beneficial? im just trying to produce as much as i can out of the chambers... maybe 5 inch holes and only 20 plants, vs 4 inch holes and 25 plants.... also, i plan on cloning obviously... but how big should my clones be before i transfer them into my setup for maximum yield... 6 inches i was thinking?

2) nutrients.. nutrients... nutrients.. what nutrients should i use and at what stages, what PPM (part per million), PH, ect... this is basically where i need most of the help b/c i have no idea how much nutrients to use at ea stage of plant life.... also what should my PPM and PH be at each stage of plant life.... ect ect... any input here would be greatly appreciated for this is the information that i can not find anywhere....

3) was also thinking about getting a 600 watt led light for my 275 gallon tote, http://www.growledhydro.com/ , just because irish boys thread, he says they are good quality LED lights..... are there any other lights that would match this quality? the 275 gallon totes are approx 40inch wide x 48inch deep x 46inch tall and the core saturation of the 600 watt led light on growledhydro.com is a 5.5' x 4.5' coverage area and 5' x 3.5' core saturation.. so it would be pretty much PERFECT for my setup... but just wondering if there are better recommendations, maybe different types of lights... or anything..... also, how high/far away from the top of the plants should my lights be at all times? one more thing about lighting, when should i switch from 18 hours on 6 off, to 12 on 12 off

4) growing medium, should i just use rockwool cubes in the net pots, should i get some sort of those growing beans? (forgot the real name of them) just def not using soil.....

5) watering.. how often should i water? i was reading somewhere where they were recommending 3 hours on 1 hour off.. is this a good idea? are there any better, more efficient ways of watering my plants??

once again i just want to thank you for taking the time to read this article and any input at all that you can give me to help me out would be much appreciated, as you can see i've done tons of research on the idea and basically got the idea from the infamous video 15lbs in 80 days by seemorebuds... but those setups are just way too expensive... thats why i set out on how to make my own... i know they give information on PPM and PH levels throughout the plant life but honestly i feel he could have yeilded more if he did something different/better? idk im just looking for some expericenced growers help and to give me more insight/knowlege on the subject... thank you for your time.
 

jdmcwestevo

Well-Known Member
i would love to help you, but aero isnt my area of expertise, if you were open to other growing styles, DWC, ebb and flow, etc. i could help you out.
 

Taquito35

Member
do you know anything about lights on moving rails? like if i built three of these setups and wanted to use one led, or more if its required, how to set it up on a moving light rail? i have a medical card and i have people designating me as a caregiver... i also plan on making a grow journal on the site, thats why i thought i should perfect my operation so i could show everyone the results....
thanks for your time anyways.
 

pazuzu420

Well-Known Member
Well I"ll go ahead and tackle the nute question. In hydro you are looking at keeping a PH between 5.5 and 6.0 and I notice that the GH products I use seem to buffer at 5.8 which seems to work for me. General Hydroponics recommends these PPM's during these various stages of growth:
Seedling - 440
Mild Growth - 1010
Growth - 1080
Transition - 1390
Bloom - 1460
Ripen - 540
With my experiences and I quite a few others from posts I've read is that you have to mix towards the light side when following any of thier schedules. For example I mix for 4 gallons when mixing for 5 - 6 and I prepare or mix for 10 gallons in the 15 gallon rez. This keeps me right around the numbers above with no sign of nute burn. I have let it rise by 200 or 300 and shown a slight burn on just the very very tippy end of the leaf. If I over shoot I always keep a few gallons of spare R.O. water handy to add.
You should always take a reading of the tap, r.o. water before you mix so you can subtract that reading from you final reading to account for salts in the 'clean' water.
 

jdmcwestevo

Well-Known Member
do you know anything about lights on moving rails? like if i built three of these setups and wanted to use one led, or more if its required, how to set it up on a moving light rail? i have a medical card and i have people designating me as a caregiver... i also plan on making a grow journal on the site, thats why i thought i should perfect my operation so i could show everyone the results....
thanks for your time anyways.
how much cash do you have to invest in this man to start out.
 

Taquito35

Member
how much cash do you have to invest in this man to start out.
a couple thousand, i was inspired by the video 15 pounds in 80 days, but seemorebuds, and i want to use that idea just dont want to pay the outrageous price for an aquamist system... so im making a couple out of the 275 gallon totes, also im living in a house and have an extra bedroom which is where i plan on growing this, that was my next question how should i setup my bedroom? like a cloning/mother plant room, a grow room, and the drying room? seemorebuds uses 3 rooms but they are all growing at the same time, i hope to get the seeofgreen effect going where i crop every few weeks.... so money aside, what do i need to do to maximize buds?! i plan on growing for a lot of people. one last question is the lighting if i wanted to hook up a rail system to move the light over the plants what is the lighting schedule? this would reduce electricity usage and grow 3 - 4 times the plants.... thansk
 

WillyBagseed

Active Member
For a somewhat cheap start at LP aero / nft check this out

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks.html
This is based on perpetual grow. a cloner $100- 120 to make, a vegger $100-120 to make and 3 flower units $150 ea to make. I started out with a vegger and 1 flower unit and it does really get you about a lb every 3-4 weeks depending on strains you grow (with 3 units).

If you decide to go this route go to stinkbuddies site and scrounge around for mods. This is the basic system from a few years ago and has changed a lot in the stinkbud community.
 

Taquito35

Member
do you guys think the spectra LED 290 which is the 300watt led from http://growledhydro.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=2&zenid=7i3ikjgvuksrmm2q95q6kl2l13 would suffice for my 3 and 1/3 foot by 4 foot 275 gallon tote? it says on the site that the coverage area is apox 4' x 4' but core saturation is 2.8' x 2.5'... would this be perfect for each 275 gallon tote? but what if i plan on having 3 of the 275 gallon totes in one little room inside of the bedroom, what would be the cheapest LED solution? should i put a bigger LED, say 600 watt, on light rails above the 3 side by side 275 gallon totes? or should i just buy one smaller LED, say 300 watt (if that is sufficient for my plan), per 275 gallon tote?
 
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