GregS
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Yes I do. The MMMA covers them under sec. 8. Call me whatever you like.
New activist funding plan.
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buckaroo bonzai
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i think he gets it more than you 'officer' .......ghost og--ive read some of your bullshit hubris posts previously....haha
you think you are the shit because you have ghost og and you say >>YOU<< brought it here...?? pfffft-
how much you think you will be protected after having stepped out as the one who brought ghost here to theD-??
i bet thebig crossshairs of leo are on you now....mr ghost w 14 posts
your from that other site trying to help them w the rhetoric right?
the 'box' they want us all in--'dude'
the only thing that will hold up in court if your even a gr over and they catch you is a sec8 mr know-it-all ghost man
fuk your mmma defense and kiss it goodbye!
mayb you havent been reading as much as you would like us to think.....
havent you seen all the folks posts that violated even one tiny little clause of the mmma???
--they get NO protection and have to pay thru the nose for a defense
im guessing your in your 20s and have swallowed the 3ma rhetoric whole....like the hookers on woodward
oh yeah....im one of those people who feels a 'non' state run registry would work better .....officer-
i came from cali and have had a dr rec for the last 16+yrs......works just fine there
Dr. Bob
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What, you don't accept the koolaid????
This is nothing more than legal darwinism. You guys grab your forms and knock yourself out....lol
Dr. Bob
buckaroo bonzai
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no bob ...most here dont drink ""koolaid"" especially from you or anyone else from that 'other' site with the narrow definitions and closed loop reasoning
nice try at reverse psychology.....
go back to the bar and drink your meds---i mean koolaid
--by yourself
dont you still have that thousand page 'hate' thread going over at mcp?
mayb you can get some attention there
Cory and trevor
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Greg) what do you think of accepting paperwork as in: originals from a previous year from LARA with an accompanying card that's expired showing it went thru proving doc number and sig to be genuine? I'm saying set a club up like that and F the state for all their protection, would section 8 still hold in that case? I'm looking for any way to stop giving the state my money for nothing and getting fucked for free. I'd vend if a place like that could get going on.
GregS
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turns out this cats on the wrong site... smoke one chill out
buckaroo bonzai
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they allready have 'legal' insurance...its called "" retainer""
--i think thats what you mean....anything else is well....?? (off the radar???)
--so thats how their doing it @3ma and getting away w it.......hmmmm
how much do they charge folks w ""full set of cards""....???[joke]
or its how much $ you pay the lawyers == how much u cAn gEt away w....and where-
brah--
i think 'your' on the "" wrong"" site--(shouldnt yu b @3m?? where all the others are 'towing' the line--)kiss-ass
c&t >>was chillin and smokin one when they wrote that-
--they were being nice to dr b-
i guess you havent been in the mudsinging here....
B oh b is responsible for some good folks gone from here.....
the rest of us wrestle with his sentiment and advertising here all the time...
-all though every once in a great while he says stuff that really is relevant-
nahhh c&t have 10x 'ur' posts here and those 'cats' get respect--
you dont
--rep(you lost rep)
ProfessorPotSnob
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Who said summertime was quiet here lmao
buckaroo bonzai
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it works just fine in cali--
look at all the latitude the small guys have!
they have turned the 'dialectic' back on the powers that be...thats how they voted for it and implimented it....i was there
if you dont understand smoke some more ghost and meditate on it--or go to cali and see for yourself
....just hit up a good festival and you will see lots of ganjaprenuers
--the underground ones are best
10x the feds from all the cartels and gangsters....good for folks within the parameters
if you have a small farm(5-10-20acres) you can grow your 25(in some co) 5-10lb plants
hell even if you are anywhere you can grow 5lb plants outside for free if you know what you are doing-
so i think your post is more ghost shit--
i knew all that......at least thats what they tell anybody but administrators that r plant mgr at warehouse dispens ypsi grows
nahhh what your proposing is entering into a legal binding contract type .....sign a paper thing ....
a lot already operate the way you say w/o the paperwork
.....seems like it would be incriminating unless you are trying to mount a defense-
so yes i absolutely agree with 'keeping' a doc rec .....always
card or not-
i know what i use for medicine and my dr agrees
allthough i havent been to drs in 20yrs except for cannabis certs
...the health comes with growing the plant and becoming more concious and healthy by choice-
should i have to go to court(God forbid) for anything i have a set of recoeds going back 16+yrs to use in my neccessity show cause
i rarely step outside the boundries tho-dont need to
they are wide enough for someone with experience but definately not enough latitude i would say to keep you from some bullshit
pretend its illegal and go from there....only now you have a dr cert you can use if you have a case.....sec8??
whats the difference from before the law?
(dr cert)--if you can get them to accept it or are able to use it in court which they constantly deny folks a defense in a lot of places
no i get your reasoning but the underground is just fine w/o paperwork
now if you are doing it to try and follow some law here that supposedly makes it 'legal' for you to 'step out' and expose yourself in a dispense mode or somthing....or a warwhouse grow
i would say you should be pretty 'lawyered' up with as many mmj attorneys(they like that) as you can....
--the secret stakholders group has the best
your approach is novel but the form thingy seems too incriminating unless you are mounting a defense.....
-then i would say it has merit for a sec8-
GregS
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Wasn't me.
GregS
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The difference between this and the good old days is that with this defense, if you keep your ducks in a row, it is unlikely you will go to prison if something goes sideways. Part of this will be to recruit the best legal mmj legal minds to cover any cases that might arise. With adequate funding to pay legal expenses, folks will have one less thing to worry about at at time when there is already lots to worry about. If, on the other hand, anyone is ducky with sec. 4 protection, there is no arguing that it is the more protective way to go, if you simply want to stay with zips and not use medibles, rso, bho, or any other delivery system that may be in question, is with the registry. There is the fact that we are not limited in the number of caregivers we can have, or the number of patients for that matter, and be protected from conviction under sec. 8.it works just fine in cali--
look at all the latitude the small guys have!
they have turned the 'dialectic' back on the powers that be...thats how they voted for it and implimented it....i was there
if you dont understand smoke some more ghost and meditate on it--or go to cali and see for yourself
....just hit up a good festival and you will see lots of ganjaprenuers
--the underground ones are best
10x the feds from all the cartels and gangsters....good for folks within the parameters
if you have a small farm(5-10-20acres) you can grow your 25(in some co) 5-10lb plants
hell even if you are anywhere you can grow 5lb plants outside for free if you know what you are doing-
so i think your post is more ghost shit--
i knew all that......at least thats what they tell anybody but administrators that r plant mgr at warehouse dispens ypsi grows
nahhh what your proposing is entering into a legal binding contract type .....sign a paper thing ....
a lot already operate the way you say w/o the paperwork
.....seems like it would be incriminating unless you are trying to mount a defense-
so yes i absolutely agree with 'keeping' a doc rec .....always
card or not-
i know what i use for medicine and my dr agrees
allthough i havent been to drs in 20yrs except for cannabis certs
...the health comes with growing the plant and becoming more concious and healthy by choice-
should i have to go to court(God forbid) for anything i have a set of recoeds going back 16+yrs to use in my neccessity show cause
i rarely step outside the boundries tho-dont need to
they are wide enough for someone with experience but definately not enough latitude i would say to keep you from some bullshit
pretend its illegal and go from there....only now you have a dr cert you can use if you have a case.....sec8??
whats the difference from before the law?
(dr cert)--if you can get them to accept it or are able to use it in court which they constantly deny folks a defense in a lot of places
no i get your reasoning but the underground is just fine w/o paperwork
now if you are doing it to try and follow some law here that supposedly makes it 'legal' for you to 'step out' and expose yourself in a dispense mode or somthing....or a warwhouse grow
i would say you should be pretty 'lawyered' up with as many mmj attorneys(they like that) as you can....
--the secret stakholders group has the best
your approach is novel but the form thingy seems too incriminating unless you are mounting a defense.....
-then i would say it has merit for a sec8-
The courts, the governmen, and the people might just come to see how the COA played into this with a number of their fucked up rulings that have no place in legitimate jurisprudence. We have the press to put the word out. Maybe Joe will stage some more antics on the capitol steps. That is always a hoot.
One last point. Keeping an attorney on retainer is fine. But you will be required to pony up and pay the full cost of the defense, which typically ranges in the thousands to tens of thousands of dollars.
Cory and trevor
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good point, I just hate to read shit like "fall in line" and "no standard". everything you said sounds both safe and reasonable about cali herb. I don't ever loose site of the fact that this herb won't do anything negative to anyone's health so to me even having to sign up and pay at a medicating area to walk in and use herb is too much for me. I'm a dirty legalization hippy though and not a bob-stooge. The real Bob (Marley that is not the doc) said alcohol just get you drunk but herb help you meditate and they don't want you thinking how I can help, what I can do and meditating. Pain pills just take your life, they make sure you don't think at all worse than beer and wine. this a fight, this a war and they make themselves enemy of the people. Why I'm going to pay them? My AG and court say a cookie isn't covered under the act, nor is tincture. This means the kids on my side that need medicine aren't covered essentially. I'm against having kids smoke when there are clear alternatives to it. They take protection from the kids in this way-that's warfare and I won't fund it. If my patients want to keep carded they can but I'm going to offer up NOT renewing and keep copies of their stuff and have them just see the doctor every year or two get paperwork filled out BUT DON'T SEND. it could cost me in the end if it hits the fan but I know these people, I trust them and they trust me. To pay LARA still is on par with a Jewish guy in Germany circa 1932 paying extra taxes to the Nazi party.
buckaroo bonzai
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cali started it all-
well.....im just a cantankerus ol fuk-ignore me
age and experience can make you that way
i call everyone officer until i know them-
i understand your hubris now and it stands strong w me-
duppie mon
im just pissed the way things are going here and no organized effort to oppose it-
...everyone has their own agenda here and seems to be fractured and splintered in a billion zillion directions
...intentionally and by design....everyone with their own idea and business plan
after having been out in the deep forest for a couple weeks with 10,000+hippies from all over the country and globe practicing freedom and love ....i have a cynical attitude coming back here
i literally talked with at least a dozen growers from all over the western 'legal' states cali,colorado,oregon,washington,montana and none of them had much positive to say about the laws being implimented in their states
except the folks from cali and oregon who thought it was just fine and they were against the whole legalization thing....they will fight it tooth and nail cause they understand the ramifacations --i hate to say but 'decrim' was the word most heard
when you talk about the legs in cali ...they are the ones trying to fuck it up along with the large dispensary owners....harbourside-
they want to box it up and eliminate the small farmers from capitalizing off it....like they are going to try and do here-
--too late there tho
genie out of the bottle....ever try and put a genie back in the bottle--?
the folks i smoked/talked w from oregon felt the same as cali thats why it didnt fly there either
applegate(?) valley is producing some outstanding old skool land race strains
old colombians ...thais....pakistani....and hawaiins
my light dep friend there gets 80lbs off 20plants
and medford,ashland ,eugene.....??
..its all 'nor-cal' there now as the old growers from the triangle kids all moved up in those areas years ago and are rockin it!
some good organic hippie rainbow energy all over there....good phamily around there too-
thats where the gathering will be next yr-??
-you should hear the stuff coming out of washington ....their gonna eliminate home grows or allow it at the very minimal
liquor control board is going to take itover and tax the fuk out of it
montana??
--they feel safer going back underground there is so many doing outdoor they have their hands full and montana is a lotof sky to fly-
colorado??
--the kidz there are bleaching out alot of the strains there allready and most of the colo hydro erb i tried was....??well-
--no leggs
most said erb was so cheap there now it wasnt worth spending lots of $ to set up anything unless you had outlets and then they said most of the outlets did their own-
black market is flooded there and saturated with cheap cheap crappy crap-
-great if you just wanna have erb but not so good if you want 'kind'
.....most i talked w felt ripped off like the rest of us
but here in the mitten if u wanna be safe move to a2or detroit and keep to yourself and you will be fine.....
--start a 'private members only' type scenario-
with memberships....payed memberships?.....20$?
that way you vette your members and they have all the rights and privledges of a 'private members only' social club-
or call it a garden club or somthing--a sort of social club with gardening as the theme
that you could get a legal defense off if it was private members only...like biker clubs
--you know what goes on at biker clubs??? lolol
turns out you r the 'duppie-man'--
(duppie mon: -patois[jamaican]for a ghost)
ghost og is strong as fuk but if i were looking for that around here i would say the rare d posse would be the ones to catch
they seem to have some of the best genetics floating around mich right now-
i have my unopened pkg of ghost....and a few others
i want some 'scotts' or 'doc' tho-
most of the farmers i know in cali are still doing ok-
i know folks therestill get 3000for their special sour d....or 'real' original og....and a few others
if your on your A game and good at what you do you should have no problems here-
the demand far outweighs the supply here right now....you cant grow enough good AAA here right now...they wont let you lolol
about 80%of most folks erb here is still not up to the bar
all thoughthe learning curve is leveling out-
they dont even know what that is....they been smokin bag seed here for so long and the knowledge of strains here leaves a little to be desired....lots of countefeit knock-off crap...
but hey folks are having fun thinking they got kill-
come out to emerald cup in dec-
the only totally organic outdoor cannabis cup
some of the best new genetics showcased in cali will be there....dec14-15
you have an invite-and a fuk you pass
buckaroo bonzai
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arent these some of the 'secret' stakeholders that helped get us where were at??
i absolutley know a couple of them represent the disp-cuz i know owners
what could they possibly help patients with except to drain their bank accounts....$$is their religion i heard one of them say before-
yeah your missing the one attorney not in the secret stakeholdergroup who gotthe farmer with 8000 plants probation-
hed be the only one i would support or hire--biggus dickkus i would call him
GregS
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Your latin is impeccable Buck.
gladstoned
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lol @ this thread. Holy fucking loaded guns. I made it all the way to the second post.
No way I can keep reading without being added to the list of banned people.
No way I can keep reading without being added to the list of banned people.