NEEM OIL for Life!

TheGreenBiologist

Active Member
I just need to say that Neem Oil is by far the best method of pest control I have found. I know that pests (or even the thought of) will make any-level grower lose sleep at night. But I hope this thread will enlighten individuals on how easy it is to SAFELY take full control of your plants in literally 20 minutes.

-Neem Oil-
Extracted from the Neem Tree, grown in India, it can be used as a safe and effective pesticide. Many manufactured pesticides are filled with inorganic substances to drive away/kill the insects. Spraying these substances on a plant that will eventually be consumed can be harmful (especially when applied during the flowering stage). But Neem Oil has its own (Safe) ways of driving-off those little pests. 1) Being an oil, and therefore hydrophobic, Neem Oil creates a slippery surface on the outside of the leaves. Crawling pests, like spider mites, literally cannot hold-on to the plant. The young larvae they lay will also fall-off/die.
2) The distinctive aroma (often described as a combination of peanuts and garlic) smells unique to us, but causes the insects to run for their lives. Being from India, this substance is completely foreign to the insects found in the States. You don't have to worry about some stupid species being immune to it, because it grew-up on your local Neem Tree.
3) I cannot express enough how well cannabis responds to it. Both times I've used it, the growth-rate went immediately through the roof, easily noticeable after only 12 hours. And this is because those little b*stards were sucking the blood (chlorophyll) out of the plants, and now they are ALL gone after only one foil-feed session. **It seems the smell of garlic drives away blood-suckers of all kinds :mrgreen:

-Tried and Tested-
The first time I tried-out the Neem Oil (last summer) was on a plant that was already half-way through flowering. I was a little scared of trying it out because I had never used it before, and I was nearing the end of the growth-cycle. But there was no time to waste, after moving my girls inside for flowering, the insects were trying to have a field-day. I bit my lip and coated my plants/beautiful buds with this substance that was completely new to me. I started laughing as anything that had wings, took-off IMMEDIATELY after I started spraying. Since you want to apply at the end of the light schedule, I applied it at night, crossed my fingers and went to bed. Woke-up to greener plants which stood stronger, and zero pests. There was zero effect on the harvest. In fact I had a lot of veterans tell me it was some of the best bud they have ever smoked. (It was a personal strain I created from a Maui Wowie mother and a White Rhino father. We created many names for it, but in the end it was called both Wowie White and White Wowie...and sometimes Surfin' Rhino hahaha)

My second time using the oil was last night. I have four mothers (1.5 months old - two are Master Kush, two are PPP) that I move outside on nice days, and bring-in under flouro's at night/when it's raining. A few days ago, one or two of em were showing signs of being lunched-on. I located the snackers to be spider mites (aaaagain). So I went and grabbed my Neem Oil from last year. Made the dilution, and sprayed-down all four just to be on the safe side. You wanna spray when the plants are not in direct sunlight, and the temperature is below 85. So I applied the oil around 8-8:30 last night. I was so surprised by how well it worked (again) that I'm sitting here writing this thread haha. It might be because it was the first time I used it during the veg-stage, but the plants grew A LOT over the last day and have such a rich, deep, green color.

-Why I Love It!-
-You can find it at your local plant-supply store. I paid $16.98 (for 'Bon-Neem')
-Since you make a dilution with 99.5% water and 0.5% Neem Oil, your bottle will last a very long time.
-Application is as simple as foil-feeding your plants. Just be sure to spray on both surfaces of the leaves (especially the fans) until it is well-saturated and dripping.
-There isn't an insect I have found that does not like this stuff.
-It is completely organic and does not harm the plant one bit.
-The smell does not mess-up the fragrance of the plants, even when applied during flowering.
-Literally within 24 hours of application, you will not be able to notice that you even sprayed anything. Except for the fact that the pests are all gone and your plants look healthier than ever!
-Being a hydrophobic oil, it doesn't really absorb into the leaves like manufactured pesticides do.
-Great for use on both indoor and outdoor plants/pests.
-It is SO EASY to do and SO SAFE.

I hope this helps a lot of people take full control of their plants and sleep better at night. **I will also post this thread in the Newbie Central forum.
 

Mort Fink

New Member
I use spinosad spray right now, but will probably get some Neem in the future for double protection.
 

bob loblough

Active Member
you can buy it concentrate or pre diluted. concentrate is much cheaper. if it says "ready to use" or "rtu" then you dont dilute it.
 
Just the info I needed. Had a buddy tell me to mix 1tbs dish liquid, 1cup vodka, and 1gl water. Just could never bring myself to try it. Seems like the liquor wuld dry out the plant. On my way to the Garden Center for neem oil:clap::clap:
 

UVRay

Well-Known Member
I just found some critters on my beloved girls yesterday. Now I know what to get, sounds like the Neem Oil is exactly what I need.

Just one question, you mentioned it's safe to spray even during flowering, are you only spraying the leaves top and bottom or are you spraying the buds too? I'd hope you don't have to spray the buds but wonder if you can get rid of all the critters if you avoid spraying the buds and only spray the leaves.

and thanks for sharing the info!
 

Alphadawg

Active Member
I just need to say that Neem Oil is by far the best method of pest control I have found. I know that pests (or even the thought of) will make any-level grower lose sleep at night. But I hope this thread will enlighten individuals on how easy it is to SAFELY take full control of your plants in literally 20 minutes.

-Neem Oil-
Extracted from the Neem Tree, grown in India, it can be used as a safe and effective pesticide. Many manufactured pesticides are filled with inorganic substances to drive away/kill the insects. Spraying these substances on a plant that will eventually be consumed can be harmful (especially when applied during the flowering stage). But Neem Oil has its own (Safe) ways of driving-off those little pests. 1) Being an oil, and therefore hydrophobic, Neem Oil creates a slippery surface on the outside of the leaves. Crawling pests, like spider mites, literally cannot hold-on to the plant. The young larvae they lay will also fall-off/die.
2) The distinctive aroma (often described as a combination of peanuts and garlic) smells unique to us, but causes the insects to run for their lives. Being from India, this substance is completely foreign to the insects found in the States. You don't have to worry about some stupid species being immune to it, because it grew-up on your local Neem Tree.
3) I cannot express enough how well cannabis responds to it. Both times I've used it, the growth-rate went immediately through the roof, easily noticeable after only 12 hours. And this is because those little b*stards were sucking the blood (chlorophyll) out of the plants, and now they are ALL gone after only one foil-feed session. **It seems the smell of garlic drives away blood-suckers of all kinds :mrgreen:

-Tried and Tested-
The first time I tried-out the Neem Oil (last summer) was on a plant that was already half-way through flowering. I was a little scared of trying it out because I had never used it before, and I was nearing the end of the growth-cycle. But there was no time to waste, after moving my girls inside for flowering, the insects were trying to have a field-day. I bit my lip and coated my plants/beautiful buds with this substance that was completely new to me. I started laughing as anything that had wings, took-off IMMEDIATELY after I started spraying. Since you want to apply at the end of the light schedule, I applied it at night, crossed my fingers and went to bed. Woke-up to greener plants which stood stronger, and zero pests. There was zero effect on the harvest. In fact I had a lot of veterans tell me it was some of the best bud they have ever smoked. (It was a personal strain I created from a Maui Wowie mother and a White Rhino father. We created many names for it, but in the end it was called both Wowie White and White Wowie...and sometimes Surfin' Rhino hahaha)

My second time using the oil was last night. I have four mothers (1.5 months old - two are Master Kush, two are PPP) that I move outside on nice days, and bring-in under flouro's at night/when it's raining. A few days ago, one or two of em were showing signs of being lunched-on. I located the snackers to be spider mites (aaaagain). So I went and grabbed my Neem Oil from last year. Made the dilution, and sprayed-down all four just to be on the safe side. You wanna spray when the plants are not in direct sunlight, and the temperature is below 85. So I applied the oil around 8-8:30 last night. I was so surprised by how well it worked (again) that I'm sitting here writing this thread haha. It might be because it was the first time I used it during the veg-stage, but the plants grew A LOT over the last day and have such a rich, deep, green color.

-Why I Love It!-
-You can find it at your local plant-supply store. I paid $16.98 (for 'Bon-Neem')
-Since you make a dilution with 99.5% water and 0.5% Neem Oil, your bottle will last a very long time.
-Application is as simple as foil-feeding your plants. Just be sure to spray on both surfaces of the leaves (especially the fans) until it is well-saturated and dripping.
-There isn't an insect I have found that does not like this stuff.
-It is completely organic and does not harm the plant one bit.
-The smell does not mess-up the fragrance of the plants, even when applied during flowering.
-Literally within 24 hours of application, you will not be able to notice that you even sprayed anything. Except for the fact that the pests are all gone and your plants look healthier than ever!
-Being a hydrophobic oil, it doesn't really absorb into the leaves like manufactured pesticides do.
-Great for use on both indoor and outdoor plants/pests.
-It is SO EASY to do and SO SAFE.

I hope this helps a lot of people take full control of their plants and sleep better at night. **I will also post this thread in the Newbie Central forum.
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Nice post I agree but what I don't agree with you is it smells like garlic, smells more like peanut butter
 

probo24

Well-Known Member
Not that I don't use it myself as a speedbump but the small bottle does not last a very long time. Even systemic neem (root fed)
doesn't deter mites forever, you have to constantly spray plants and more important rotate different oils.
Even then you don't kill every mite, you don't prevent every mite from laying more eggs, you don't break the cycle of
reproduction effectively enough to do anything but keep buying Neem for 17 bucks a pop.
Sorry, while it's a good product, it's not effective enough in nonsealed grow rooms in my opinion.
 

ogreballerina

Well-Known Member
I spray my plants once a week with Neem, with a pressure sprayer..just blast the heck out them, tops and bottom.

However once buddage starts forming I just use water and use it sparingly. Last 4 weeks of flowering..nothing but a rare light misting.

I live where it's super dry and mold has never been a problem.

But I grow in a tent and would never use Neem as catchall in an open room. In the end you'll lose ( or have a constant fight on your hands ) until you can seal it up.

And just before flowering I blast them again with Neem....seal up the tent and throw a Hotshot No Pest strip in there overnight ( and again a week later ) and never have to worry about bugs again.
 

ynnyang

Member
I just started using Neem Oil (diluted) to control mites which seemed to work, but one 3 ft plant wilted up, then died (RIP). It did great for about a week after the application. I also found fungus gnat bugs, not the larvae in the soil, but these are not becoming flyers. I applied Neem oil dilution to the soil as a 'thought' that this would control for those bugs. :idea:
Now another plant sprayed for mites and found soil vermin too, is looking similar, big fan leaves are drooping, and others are turning yellow. The plant does NOT have mites. I am turning neurotic as a plant inspector.
Is Neem Oil not recommended for treating soil vermin or ? I am perplexed with my girls.
 

charface

Well-Known Member
I was getting ready to make a neem thread but this is a good place to add my .02

I have used it lots of ways and had mojor problems like leaf blotching, it was gross to work with
and it gummed up the leafs.

I have finally had sucsess by tinkering and here is how I do it now.

I use concentrate.
The bottle calls for 1 litre but I add anothe half litre.
I MEASURE 1/2 tsb neem and 1/2 tsp dish soap

First add some hot water just enough to heat up the neem and detergent then add the rest of the luke warm water.
Keep it mixed.
Your light should be off and your fans should be off.
I spray the entire plant and soak the top 1/4 inch of soil
I then start spraying the underside of the leaves.
Give them a good shake to rid the plant of excess water weight because Im gonna add more.
Having diluted the neem by the 1/2 litre makes it a pure joy to work with and it still gets rid of the bugs.

While the plants are still wet I go clean my sprayer and fill it with clear tepid water.
I almost imediatly spray the fresh water on the plants exactly as above right down to the soil and the shake.
When they dry I trun the light and fan back on according the the daily cycle.

No damage to the plant, no residual, no gnats and no mites.
Like I said I have messed around with this stuff until I found that sweet spot imo.
Cheap, safe and effective. I will continue this weekly as insurance against the little bastards.
Prolly stop about 3 weeks into flower and see how it goes.
I just started using mykos with tea so I like the fact that what does go in the soil is very dilute but my gnats are gone.
 

colonuggs

Well-Known Member
also helps prevent PM from rooting into your leafs core....that and some silicone based fert. :)

I like the Einstein oil ....same stuff


 

jcdws602

Well-Known Member
I just started using Neem Oil (diluted) to control mites which seemed to work, but one 3 ft plant wilted up, then died (RIP). It did great for about a week after the application. I also found fungus gnat bugs, not the larvae in the soil, but these are not becoming flyers. I applied Neem oil dilution to the soil as a 'thought' that this would control for those bugs. :idea:
Now another plant sprayed for mites and found soil vermin too, is looking similar, big fan leaves are drooping, and others are turning yellow. The plant does NOT have mites. I am turning neurotic as a plant inspector.
Is Neem Oil not recommended for treating soil vermin or ? I am perplexed with my girls.

Are you sure they are fungus gnats??? not root aphids?? first and foremost you have to identify the pest you have........but if you have root aphids I have used bayer advanced fruit citrus and vegetable insect control with great results.....it is not organic and is a systemic......it can be used all the way up to early flower.........and you can find it at home depot......


these are root aphids


these are fungus gnats

 

knnthc93

Well-Known Member
How late do you guys use neem. First time running it and I am two weeks in flower. I haven't sprayed sense i started flower but now I have mites and pm, any help?
 

D3monic

Well-Known Member
I'm surprised people prone to white flies and spider mites don't just plant garlic, marigolds or chives near their plants.

Garlic deters aphids, fleas, Jap beatles, and spider mites

Marigolds deter Mexican beetles, squash bugs, Thrips , hornworms and White flies, I believe they also kill nematodes in the soil.

Chives deter
Spider mites and aphids
 
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