Neem oil didn't work

I've had aphid problem don't think the neem oil worked look at the leaves weren't like this 2days ago. What should I do this is week 4 flowering?

Spinosad gets used for aphids.

Bugeye said:

Spinosad gets used for aphids.

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So what should I do

The Members said:

So what should I do

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Have you thought about trying spinosad?

Yup.. capt jacks! Try it in conjuction with neem.. worked for my problem at the beginning of summer..

meh... neem is a great preventative measure, but as a cure, I have never seen it work...

Go big, or go insane. Never battled aphids, but mites taught me to say 'Fuck you bugs' with a big gun.... 2x.

Rinse with a good sprayer after, and hope they dont come back.

Neem has to be done daily for at least 3 days to work.

White oil. Easy to make yourself, spray at lights off. Only a 1 or 2 day holding period so OK in flower

Pour in Imidacloprid to the roots for a week or so. Then spray them with a combination of 70 ml/gal Safer insecticidal soap + 2 TBSP Dr Bronner's peppermint /gal. It will kill all the live ones, while the Imidacloprid works systemically. Respray a few days later to kill all the newly hatched eggs and make sure to completely douse the stems and trunk. That should take care of it. Just try not to spray the buds if you can do anything about it. The potassium salts in the Safer soap CAN, but not always, burn the pistils. And definitely spray under low lighting and allow to dry for several hours before turning the lights back on.

OP has PH issue or somthing more so thsn bugs no? (Crispy brown leaves)
Cal/mag?

I donno just doesnt look completely like bugs to me

Ammar aliNew Member
Guys im in serious trouble, i suspected a big colony of root aphids very late, 3rd week in flowering, i applied imidacloprid bayer soil drench 2ml per liter. Temperature is 20-22 c, humidity is 65% growing under LEDs, I'm noticing phytotoxicity of imida. I can't flush because plamts are already in stress. Guys ur help will be highly appreciated. Im newbie here

Time to try hitting them with peroxide... (it is very good for the plants anyway)
I'm quite lucky this run, its been too hot for insects to really thrive. But I have also been using a fungal insecticide that has really helped.

I see definite burns, you need to dial back to food, the roots might have taken a little knock.

Mix with a saturator

you got more going on than just aphid and their damage

The Members said:

I've had aphid problem

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Bugeye said:

Spinosad gets used for aphids.

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The Members said:

So what should I do

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Bugeye said:

Have you thought about trying spinosad?

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Lol
this made my day

ANC said:

Time to try hitting them with peroxide... (it is very good for the plants anyway)
I'm quite lucky this run, its been too hot for insects to really thrive. But I have also been using a fungal insecticide that has really helped.

I see definite burns, you need to dial back to food, the roots might have taken a little knock.

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Aphids are getting under control, but the problem is phytotoxic reaction, i mixed plant nutrient with imidacloprid, hitting peroxide will lower phytotoxic ?? u mean by spray? i can't do by soil drench, plants are wet yet.

chiqifella said:

you got more going on than just aphid and their damage

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thats what i said, there is phytotoxic reaction, when i spotted aphids by microscope, i applied imidacloprid with nutrients, plants were started healing and i noticed good buds growth, but from yesterday leaves are getting phytotoxic reaction, i know it is phytotoxic because it has happened before to my veg and recovered after some time, but know they are in flowering, why aphids are coming back is another issue, but for now i have to stop phytotoxic.

Yes, I meant as a soil drench for your specific problem. It should oxidize the living shit out of those nematodes.
Maybe get a small bottle from the pharmacy and hang on till you need to water again.
In the meantime brew up 24-hour earthworm casting tea and spray down the leaves, especially the hurt ones.

I earthworm casting tea is not availabe in my region, any other alternatives?

I had great luck killing spidermites off (knock on wood) with 1 part 90%iso alcohol and 4 parts water and enough dishsoap to throughly coat the leaves when sprayed

First day i sprayed a 50/50 water/iso with soap.
(This will fry a few leaves so definitely do in the dark )

Then follow up every day with 1/4 iso/water
For 5 days

Easiest method i ever used for.mites

And the plants bounced back in about a week.

Very important you do it for at least 5 days

So you can catch all the hatch cycles

It worked for me . Last time o ised harsh chems and they still came back. This time nothing

Also when you first spray your plants clean first and vacuum all the cracks where they hide then
Spary your room in alcohol as well as the plants .

Use. Resperator if you have one . Not so much toxic as just haarsh And dont lite a cigarette in there please

Edit to add if its spider mites