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TheFucknChrOnic

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aright.this is my first grow,and have no prior experience with plants what so ever. i read these forums along with care books and sites for months before i began. i figured i knew enough to make it work, and apparently not. they looked great for the first week or 2. about a 5-6 days ago they fell on the floor.i quickly picked them up and put them back in the paper cups i have them in right now. a day or two after then happend they began to go down hill. maybe shock..over/under watering,lighting?? i dont know wtf, and im worried about them.maybe some of you veteran growers can shed some light or have some advice for me and my babies.

ok so i have a small setup in my closet roughly 2x3x5. 6in. fan venting out. 6in. fan directed at the babies. entire space lined with mylar. i have (1) 105w=400w 6500k cfl directed right over them. and (2) 3000k cfls equivelant to125w each, on eachside (4 in total). Im using ff ocean forest medium. i have some ff grow big nutes that ive only used once just yesterday,until then they had no prior nutes other than whats in the medium.

I had all 5 of the lights running for the first few weeks.they seemed to be doing good,i was watering them basicly twice a day,but not alot at all by using a spray bottle. the ph is around 6.5. i had the temp for the first few weeks a little high around 85-90 during lights on,and 80 with lights off. ive ahd the light on 18/6 from the start. and the fans running 24/7. the humidity was kinda low at anywere between 20%-30%. two days ago i put a coolmist humidifier to bring the rh up. its been up to 40%-45% and also broght the temp down to a constant 80 degrees(f) during lights on and 70-75 degrees when lights off. like i mentioned before i made the mistake of handeling them right when i woke up and not really awake and alert as i should have been. and i droped them the fell about 4 ft to the floor,i immediatly picked them up and put them back into there cups. they are in peat pucks,so ther wasnt much exposed root growth just the tips of the root systems were showing throgh the peat pucks. after that i may have began to slightly over water them trying to make up for dropping them wich may have added insult to injury. 2 or 3 days after all that they rapidly began to droop,curl under and turn real pale and are yellowing,the yellowing is mainly of the lower leaves,but the drooping and cupping is all around,2 being worse the the other 2.the leaves felt dry and britle to the touch, and one of the stems looks to be split,almost as if the stem was peeling off an outer layer or somthing.

I tried easing up on the water. moved them a little away from the light and shut the 4 3000k lights off . the one time i did water i had added some nutes at the suggested ratio on the bottle. none of this seemed to be working and i dont know what to do,some one please hellppp!

In the first pic the bottom left is White Castle. bottom right is Train Wreck. top left is Lemon Skunk and top right is LA Woman. if there is any additional info about what i got going there that i faild to mention just let me know. looking foward to seeing what you who actualy know what your doing have to say lol.
 

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capecodkid

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Dont start applying nutes till after 3rd week. Start with 1/4 strength and work your way up to full. 1/4 1/2 3/4 full
 

FuZZyBUDz

Well-Known Member
aright.this is my first grow,and have no prior experience with plants what so ever. i read these forums along with care books and sites for months before i began. i figured i knew enough to make it work, and apparently not. they looked great for the first week or 2. about a 5-6 days ago they fell on the floor.i quickly picked them up and put them back in the paper cups i have them in right now. a day or two after then happend they began to go down hill. maybe shock..over/under watering,lighting?? i dont know wtf, and im worried about them.maybe some of you veteran growers can shed some light or have some advice for me and my babies.

ok so i have a small setup in my closet roughly 2x3x5. 6in. fan venting out. 6in. fan directed at the babies. entire space lined with mylar. i have (1) 105w=400w 6500k cfl directed right over them. and (2) 3000k cfls equivelant to125w each, on eachside (4 in total). Im using ff ocean forest medium. i have some ff grow big nutes that ive only used once just yesterday,until then they had no prior nutes other than whats in the medium.

I had all 5 of the lights running for the first few weeks.they seemed to be doing good,i was watering them basicly twice a day,but not alot at all by using a spray bottle. the ph is around 6.5. i had the temp for the first few weeks a little high around 85-90 during lights on,and 80 with lights off. ive ahd the light on 18/6 from the start. and the fans running 24/7. the humidity was kinda low at anywere between 20%-30%. two days ago i put a coolmist humidifier to bring the rh up. its been up to 40%-45% and also broght the temp down to a constant 80 degrees(f) during lights on and 70-75 degrees when lights off. like i mentioned before i made the mistake of handeling them right when i woke up and not really awake and alert as i should have been. and i droped them the fell about 4 ft to the floor,i immediatly picked them up and put them back into there cups. they are in peat pucks,so ther wasnt much exposed root growth just the tips of the root systems were showing throgh the peat pucks. after that i may have began to slightly over water them trying to make up for dropping them wich may have added insult to injury. 2 or 3 days after all that they rapidly began to droop,curl under and turn real pale and are yellowing,the yellowing is mainly of the lower leaves,but the drooping and cupping is all around,2 being worse the the other 2.the leaves felt dry and britle to the touch, and one of the stems looks to be split,almost as if the stem was peeling off an outer layer or somthing.

I tried easing up on the water. moved them a little away from the light and shut the 4 3000k lights off . the one time i did water i had added some nutes at the suggested ratio on the bottle. none of this seemed to be working and i dont know what to do,some one please hellppp!

In the first pic the bottom left is White Castle. bottom right is Train Wreck. top left is Lemon Skunk and top right is LA Woman. if there is any additional info about what i got going there that i faild to mention just let me know. looking foward to seeing what you who actualy know what your doing have to say lol.

sounds to me like drop damage dood. thats pretty far to the ground, giv em a day er two more, water once, but good, NO MORE misting, it creates microscopes(the drops of water) that burn leaves.they doo look droopy, got a gardening center around go get sum SUPERTHRIVE that will help u out fer sure!!!!! heres wat it looks like....
 

Texian

Member
I too agree on the nute burn. Also, it may just be my eyes, but that top soil looks extremely dry. When using soil, I prefer to use a 50/50 mix of FFOF and LW. I usually don't feed any sort of nutes until week 3, but to each is their own. I suggest transplanting them into a 1 gallon pot first, leaving them in there for a month or so, and then transplant to at least a 3 gallon pot while flowering. Don't give up. Good luck!
 

TheFucknChrOnic

Active Member
Do you have any intake or exaust for your box???
i have exhaust but no actual clean air intake. i kinda just open the door a couple times a day. and i have only watered with nutes once, and that was yesterday . is it possible that their getting nute burn from the ffof? cause they have looked like that for the entire week before adding the ff growbig. also the soil is allways kinda dry but the peatpucks are allways moist for the most part. thanks for the advice. any other insight?
 

capecodkid

Active Member
get a intake. cant keep the door open during flowering. Transplant them into new soil and bigger pots give them some water and give them a dose of nutes 1/4 strength thw week after transplant. keep your ph at about 6.5. Check the ph after you add nutes. Your plants will be fine. If you say that the leaves were yellowing b4 you gave them nutes they were probly hungry.
 

TheFucknChrOnic

Active Member
sounds to me like drop damage dood. thats pretty far to the ground, giv em a day er two more, water once, but good, NO MORE misting, it creates microscopes(the drops of water) that burn leaves.they doo look droopy, got a gardening center around go get sum SUPERTHRIVE that will help u out fer sure!!!!! heres wat it looks like....
thanks for the advise,i will def try some of that suoerthrive you mention.
 

TheFucknChrOnic

Active Member
get a intake. cant keep the door open during flowering. Transplant them into new soil and bigger pots give them some water and give them a dose of nutes 1/4 strength thw week after transplant. keep your ph at about 6.5. Check the ph after you add nutes. Your plants will be fine. If you say that the leaves were yellowing b4 you gave them nutes they were probly hungry.
yes they were yellowing before i added nutes. i am about to transplant them into the 2.5 gallon buckets i have in a few minutes. how do you suggest i get a clean air intake with them being in a closet in my room on a second floor appartment? and should i ph the soil or the water or both? the ph in the water was is arounf 6.5 now..but havnt checked the soil yet.will do that now,thankyou.
 
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