Need help with cloning!!

BuddyJesus

BuddyJesus

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So basically I've tried to clone twice now with no success at all.. I've read tons of how to post, videos, books, and nothing seems to help lol. Now I come to you fellow RIU members to please please help me out with this, as it sucks not being able to start from a clone and having to start from seed. Then figure out if its female ore not =( Any and all help will be greatly appreciated! I have pictures to post but I wont be able to post them until later this week. I'll try and have the pics up by wednesday.

Thanks in advanced!

~Buddy J~
 
ghb

ghb

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BuddyJesus said:
So basically I've tried to clone twice now with no success at all.. I've read tons of how to post, videos, books, and nothing seems to help lol. Now I come to you fellow RIU members to please please help me out with this, as it sucks not being able to start from a clone and having to start from seed. Then figure out if its female ore not =( Any and all help will be greatly appreciated! I have pictures to post but I wont be able to post them until later this week. I'll try and have the pics up by wednesday.

Thanks in advanced!

~Buddy J~
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cloning is one of the main skills you need if you want to be a serious grower, growing from seed every time to me isn't a viable option. plant seeds, select your favourite plant and keep it as a mother

the main problem people have with cloning is they are impatient, i have had clones root after 5 days, some take up to 3 weeks so dont give up unless they are well and truly dead.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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The problem I always seem to have is after about ten days, the leaf tips begin to yellow and the plants look sickly, yet there are NO signs of roots coming out of the rockwool. Like the OP, I have watched all of the videos, read the posts, read the guides, etc. They all mention roots. Why do my cuttings look great for 10 days and then shit on me before 14 days? I PH the cubes, squeeze out excess water, keep them in a nice new dome, open dome 3 times a day to mist leaves, under flouros for 18/6.

I never see a single root protrude from rockwool after 10-14 days. Leaf tips yellow and then wilt. Eventually plant looks too sickly to go on. I'm on my third attempt and am getting tired of getting the same results, even though I follow instructions to the TEE. My next step is to make a DW cloner, but as a last resort. Where the hell are my roots after 14 days? I use clonex, distilled water that's been ph'ed. I never allow the leaves to dry out....

Max316420...... Thanks for the video, but didn't you see the OP? They have watched all videos, read all posts and guides and still can't get it. I'm in same boat. Certainly I am missing something.... I was going to get a heat pad, but I was told not to, my closet stays at around 80 degrees in the nursery.

sign me as "frustrated"
 
max316420

max316420

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you can foliar feed with a rooting solution, the cuttings dont have roots to absorb nutes so you have to feed them somehow
 
max316420

max316420

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Serapis said:
The problem I always seem to have is after about ten days, the leaf tips begin to yellow and the plants look sickly, yet there are NO signs of roots coming out of the rockwool. Like the OP, I have watched all of the videos, read the posts, read the guides, etc. They all mention roots. Why do my cuttings look great for 10 days and then shit on me before 14 days? I PH the cubes, squeeze out excess water, keep them in a nice new dome, open dome 3 times a day to mist leaves, under flouros for 18/6.

I never see a single root protrude from rockwool after 10-14 days. Leaf tips yellow and then wilt. Eventually plant looks too sickly to go on. I'm on my third attempt and am getting tired of getting the same results, even though I follow instructions to the TEE. My next step is to make a DW cloner, but as a last resort. Where the hell are my roots after 14 days? I use clonex, distilled water that's been ph'ed. I never allow the leaves to dry out....

Max316420...... Thanks for the video, but didn't you see the OP? They have watched all videos, read all posts and guides and still can't get it. I'm in same boat. Certainly I am missing something.... I was going to get a heat pad, but I was told not to, my closet stays at around 80 degrees in the nursery.

sign me as "frustrated"
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ya i know that he has watched videos on this matter but who knows what videos have been watched. I have been using basically the same method for years and have had about a 99.9% success rate... No humidity tent, no heating pad just promix, rooting solution and TIME and stick too it and you'll be gravy

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newworldicon

newworldicon

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I find it interesting to see that for a lot of people cloning is hit and miss. I started cloning 3 months ago and have had only 3 clones out of 64 die on me. I only use an aero cloner, water heater and cloning gel with a tiny amount of superthrive and viola' ....success. I don't know if I could offer any advice except try doing it simple and aero..good luck all!
 
DJ GreenThumb

DJ GreenThumb

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If you are cloning a particularly difficult strain to clone. What I do, in hydro run straight water for a few days before I take the cutting if it is in soil(less) I flush with ph adjusted water and wait about a week to take the cuttings. This will starve the plant forcing it to create roots faster because it does not have so much stored in the leaves. It also helps to remove all but the top sets of leaves and even clip the tips of the remaining leaves. Rapid rooters are also the shit for cloning
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Yep, I'm about sick of tossing rock wool cubes and shriveled plants in the dump bag. I'm probably going to a DWC bucket with neoprene inserts soon. Everytime I toss dead cuttings, I pull them from the wool and all that is there are little nubs of white, after 14 days. I use Superthrive in my rock wool soak solution.

currently, I have 5 cuttings going. It is day 15 and two are starting to look bad. The other two are still standing tall and straight, but all the tips are yellowing. I've read that one should never foliar feed cuttings. Is that true even after 14 days of waiting for roots?

I have a 4.0 GPA in college and am far from stupid, but I feel like a jack ass everytime I try to clone new plants.
 
ghb

ghb

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Serapis said:
Yep, I'm about sick of tossing rock wool cubes and shriveled plants in the dump bag. I'm probably going to a DWC bucket with neoprene inserts soon. Everytime I toss dead cuttings, I pull them from the wool and all that is there are little nubs of white, after 14 days. I use Superthrive in my rock wool soak solution.

currently, I have 5 cuttings going. It is day 15 and two are starting to look bad. The other two are still standing tall and straight, but all the tips are yellowing. I've read that one should never foliar feed cuttings. Is that true even after 14 days of waiting for roots?

I have a 4.0 GPA in college and am far from stupid, but I feel like a jack ass every time I try to clone new plants.
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i can't understand why you are having such problems, your method seems OK to me.

as i said earlier unless they shrivel to nothing and are stone cold dead you gotta stick with them. i usually have no problems taking cuttings, they root within a week most of the time, but the last batch i did took what felt like forever to root. i was on the verge of throwing them as the had all wilted/ yellowed completely, so i pulled one out of the root plug and it just started to have little white nubs as you said. i decided to leave them a little while longer, 3 days later they had roots poking out so i put them in pots with supertrhive and rhizotonic and now they are healthy and green.

with regards to foliar feeding i have no idea if its legit or not with clones but i always mist them with water and drip 3-5 ml of tap water on the root plugs.

later on i will post pics of how sickly looking my clones where just before they rooted and how they look now. in work now so can't do it from here, but seriously they looked anaemic
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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@DJ.... I have found that if I remove all but the top cluster of leaves I will get perfect little flowering colas. In my personal opinion aeroponics is the best suited to getting roots to form quickest, everything that a clone needs most of is provided in an aero cloner, warmth, humidity, loads of oxygen and constant rain effect on the roots. Everyone has their preference though huh?
 
quietguy420

quietguy420

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If you truly want to see a higher success rate try spending the few extra bucks on rapid rooters....... Nuf said.
I cant clone in rockwool to save my life but have 48/50 root in 7 days with rapid rooters.
 
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