Need help for designing a total area 15' by 18' Raw Space

JYogi

Member
I have the ability to grow 60 plants per state law for patients that are interested in certifying me as their caregiver. Before I do this (I used to back in school so I have experience but things have changed for the better and that was a long time ago.) I want to research and work on getting the best set up built to properly serves my patients needs.

Right now I have a wide open space 15' wide and 18' length, my ceilings are 7.25' high.

I want to use one heater and one AC unit for this entire area. They will be stand alone units and the ventilation as well as air flor vents will be shot up through a tube about 30 feet up to exit just a few inches above the roof (all woods behind my house)

Anyway, my main ? is how would those of you with experience properly section this off to make best use of your space to operate a hydro system or water table on a continuous rotation (I think I will need 4 rooms in that space for the various stages and drying???).... I would like to be getting a small harvest or some amount of quality medicine ready to be picked ever couple weeks.

What are your thoughts?

Those of you who have been using a hydro or water table for sometime now what would you do with this space and the ability to have this amount of life.

Also, how much electricity (AMP) would you want to run for an area like this... Again doing this right the first time, no I wish I woulda got..... I do not want to have construction or electricians out here again once this is built.

I know there is lots of great advice here which I will go through for certain but this is just an urgent and specific ? so I can just start the rough build... Once I get the rooms laid out and work going on the I can spend proper time researching equipment etc.

Thank you in advance for your time and help!

Peach be with you!

PS IF possible I would like to take a small area and dedicate it to just a few plants which would only stay in one small room their whole life, these being dirt plants. Now due to equipment costs I may not have this room running first harvest BUT if possible spacewise I would like to at least build the room even if not equip it to get all construction work done at once. I just think it would be fun to have a small area to do a few personal plants for the flavor variety and all.... If this is pushing it just forget it all together the other is my main focus for now anyway.
 
If your gonna do it big your first time and funding is no issue i would go with dwc buckets, i would section your room into 3 areas, first in half lengthwise then the room left closest to your door should be split lengthwise again so you should have 1 room that measures 9x15 and two rooms that measure appox 7x9. The biggest room which is obviously reserved for flowering can have a section put in measuring maybe 3x4 for your soil plants. I assume you want a continuing harvest? so you split one of those 7x9s into areas for vegging and start on a SOG. then you still have one area left for storing unused equipment supplies, and used as a drying and curing area. Hope this helps some, this is a pretty big area and has a lot of potential. Good Luck
 
Yeah so if hes applying that to a 7x8 remember that sectioning i mentioned u can use it there. harvest 4 pounds every three weeks.....fucking a that would be nice
 

JYogi

Member
Sorry guys
I know the area is large.
I NEVER plan on going over 72 plants total due to the law
we have in place, that is what I am legal to do. (right now I am only able to care for 60)

I want to do a continuous harvest for sure.

I do not plan on starting out with 60 (my current max) BUT I have this open raw space and
want to do it right from the start when it comes to dividing the area and all.

I really think I am leaning towards going with a EuroGrower system but I am also seriously considering
the Bubble Ponics Pro II. Yes I know I could build one myself but sometimes its just easier to go turnkey
perhaps I will use that as a prototype when I need to expand.

If anyone is in Michigan and wants to meet for coffee or something let me know... My treat
 

ow.douglas

Well-Known Member
Yogi, the foundation of stink buds system would still work for you. It will give you the perpetual without mother plants. You can substitute the Eurogrower for the NFT that he is using. I don't use NFT either but, the basis of the system seems sound. With the system that you are looking at you have more flexibility because, if you use the Euro for flower you can do one pot at at time instead of one set up at a time.
 

JYogi

Member
Hmmm yes, I do like his method for certain!

I may go with some Ebb N Grow buckets.

I like how you can easily expand on the system.
I think the biggest challenge I have to start with is deciding what type of system
to run. I want something out of the box, I do not want to build... I have looked at
Eb N Grow, Euro Table (I like but quite pricey to expland on), BubblePonics yet
many say it is too small really for the amount of plants its made to hold.
 

Dr. VonDank

Active Member
You are going to need to have a good flow of production and 3 rooms. Veg/Flower/Drying Room. Your drying room will be the smallest of the 3. You want to build the flowering room to the scale of max full production for your 70 plants.(you can start small then grow into your space. If you run drain to waste then make sure to plan for floor drainage. Remember that if you plan on a sealed room you will need 1 ton of cooling per 3000watts of light.(this figs in co2 BTU's of heat as well). Air cooled hoods in passive mode with thermo covers work but need an controller for the eshaust and sometimes supplemental room a/c as well. I like the split A/C with air handlers do to simple fact that you can just set your lights-on temp to your desired temp and then your lights-off temp to 15 degs cooler and your room temp is perfect and stable 24/7 all year long. You can run a small 9000 btu in wall unit that dumps into your flowering room or veg room and have a dehumidifier in your harvest room. Just set you temp to 68 deg and the dehumidifier on a week timer that starts at 55%RH and decreases each 24hours by 2 1/2%RH(or your preferences). You may or may not need additional dehumidification for your flowering room depending on co2 %'s and RH levels but if you need calculations send me a PM. I can help you with all your design/estamation/// build-out and equipment...
 
If you dont want to build something you could always find someone on riu who lives by you who would we willing to help out, someone like me.... shoot me a pm if you wanted to talk
 

tea tree

Well-Known Member
I would say a string of dwc buckets that were recirculating so that you could top off easy and montior nice. Big trees in five gallons of water with a simple gh three part program and tapwater for ease. Vertical bulbs and you got a room full of trees. I would def use co2 but I would use propane if I could keep it cool.

Or if ease and a little less yeild would be ok then I would go for ebb and flow. If you wanted to spend the money on rockwool then you could even grow on 8 inch cubes stacked on each other for about five gallons and just run multiple tables and maybe instead of a full run at once set up the tables at two week intervals with an 8 week strain and like albfuct sticky in the hydro forum you would harvest a great amount constantly.

I would use a mineral or "chem" hydro nutirent like gh with the buffers and the hardwater micro and tapwater for ease and just flush at the end well for a clean smoke.

Good luck. I hope you know what you are doing dude. I am sure you do. But a turnkey for that much room. D/oh! No way just buy tables or lowes buckets and some pumps.
 

JYogi

Member
I am really leaning towards the Ebb N Gro

Yes I know I am paying more and could build them at Home Depot
but Id rather spend that couple hrs drilling the buckets and all of that
working on the other parts of the room.

So far the Ebb N Gro seems to allow for the most expansion and I like how
you can spread all the plants out as much as you want or as close as you want.
 

tea tree

Well-Known Member
ebb and grow is not easy to build, lol. the controller is complicated. it is ebb and flow in buckets.

cool choice. expensive. an ebb table on crais list is 50 bucks!

lowes buckets are 4 dwc.

the water farm is drip.

for large medical the smart choice is ebb tables for ease.

trying to help.

for ebb and grow most people need chillers also. pathogen growth is invedible. use chemical nutes and h202 ftw. organic hydro does not work with these systems and is poor imho for hydro.

shop around. ebb and grow will grow you some trees tho! iam using 4 in rockwool on 6 inch rockwool on 8 in rockwool on a 3x3 for flower and a turbogarden for veg. I use gh three part and tapwater. this is just personal. my yeilds tho need some work i will admit.
 

Green Dave

Well-Known Member
Yogi
What part of Michigan are you ?
Im South West Lower Corner .
I like DWC buckets Just my 2 cents
Green Dave
 
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