NDP motion calls on feds to decriminalize marijuana before legalizing it

gb123

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TTAWA - The New Democrats are urging the Liberal government to decriminalize pot before they legalize it.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau campaigned on a promise to legalize, regulate and restrict access to marijuana, and his government plans to get started next spring.


A woman smokes a joint during the annual 420 marijuana rally on Parliament hill on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 in Ottawa. The New Democrats are urging the Liberal government to decriminalize pot before they legalize it.Prime Minister Justin Trudeau campaigned on a promise to legalize, regulate and restrict access to marijuana, and his government plans to get started next spring THE CANADIAN PRESS/Justin Tang

Meanwhile, the existing criminal law remains on the books and police are expected to enforce it.

The NDP is introducing an opposition day motion Monday calling on the House of Commons to recognize there is a contradiction in giving people criminal records for something the government has said should not be a crime.

The motion also calls on the government to decriminalize simple possession of marijuana for personal use immediately.

"Canadians thought they were voting for a Liberal government that would act quickly to stop the arrests and subsequent criminal records for those who smoke pot," NDP MP Murray Rankin said in a statement.

"But instead we see a government that has not moved on this issue and worse, they have encouraged law enforcement to crack down on marijuana users, further wasting resources and bringing greater confusion to the legal system," said Rankin, the justice critic for his party.

Health Minister Jane Philpott formally announced the federal government's plan to legalize and regulate marijuana in a speech to the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

"We know it is impossible to arrest our way out of this problem," Philpott said April 20 in the speech at a special session on global drug policy as she revealed the promised legislation could come in spring 2017.

That same day, Trudeau argued it would be irresponsible to decriminalize marijuana in the meantime.

"We believe in the legalization and regulation of marijuana because it protects our kids and keeps money out of the pockets of criminal organizations and street gangs," Trudeau told the House of Commons.

"The fact of the matter is that decriminalization, as the member proposes, actually gives a legal stream of income to criminal organizations. That is not what anyone wants in this country," Trudeau said.

Liberal MP Bill Blair, a former Toronto police chief and parliamentary secretary to the justice minister, confirmed in February that police should continue enforcing Criminal Code provisions on marijuana.

“Quite frankly, until those laws are repealed by Parliament through the appropriate processes, they should be upheld, they should be obeyed," said Blair.

He was responding to members of the police community who had said the discussion surrounding legalization had created confusion, especially for officers on the front lines tasked with enforcing the law.

On May 26, Toronto police along with city municipal licensing and standards officials raided 43 marijuana dispensaries.

They arrested 90 people, including shop owners and employees.

A coalition of marijuana dispensaries in Toronto said police and city officials made a "major mistake" in targeting the pot shops and called for the charges to be dropped.

Some Torontonians denounced the operation — called Project Claudia — as a waste of police resources, while others questioned the timing.

Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders dismissed the criticism, saying the raids were prompted by health concerns and complaints from the community.
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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i sure hope the libs don't nuke the ndp motion... we need all the help we can get..

ps

on the "deleted posts" thing..[????..i dunno]
 

gb123

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Pot decriminalization a green light for dealers: Wilson-Raybould

Just reading that heading says it all

They're beyond dumb!!!!!!
......where the hell do they think it is now? In the hands of organized businesses? :lol:

Maybe if they keep their head in the sand long enough...Everyone wil just go away :lol: LMAROTF
 

gb123

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Feds reject NDP motion to decriminalize marijuana for personal use

OTTAWA -- The federal Liberal government has no plans to decriminalize marijuana before legalizing it, Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould said Monday.

"It would mean that marijuana would remain an illegal substance and that it would continue to be grown and distributed by organized crime networks," Wilson-Raybould told the House of Commons.

"Canadians, both adults and youth, would continue to purchase a product of unknown potency and quality while fuelling the profits of organized crime."

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She said the Liberals would therefore not be supporting an NDP motion urging the federal government to immediately decriminalize simple possession of marijuana.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau campaigned on a promise to legalize, regulate and restrict access to marijuana, and his government plans to introduce legislation next spring.

But New Democrat MP Murray Rankin said that could take two years to come into effect, leaving many Canadians at risk of criminal records for something the government doesn't believe should be a crime.

Rankin said all it would take is political will, since Wilson-Raybould has the power to direct prosecutors to avoid pressing charges.

He also noted that even former Liberal prime minister Jean Chretien has come out in favour of decriminalization.

"To hide behind the status quo and do nothing, (which) is the government's particular option until they finally have a law enacted, is not right," Rankin said.

"It creates a continuing injustice in this country, which is felt in different parts of the country in different ways, and we say on this side of the House that it's time to fix that problem now."

Wilson-Raybould disputed the idea that the law is in limbo. "The law is in force and it should be obeyed," she said.

The NDP motion had at least one Liberal on its side: Toronto Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith.

"Is not decriminalization a fairer option as a matter of scarce judicial resources and a matter of not affecting young peoples' lives negatively for no reason at all when we are legalizing within one year?" Erskine-Smith asked during the debate.

Liberal MP Bill Blair, the parliamentary secretary to the justice minister, said it would be irresponsible to decriminalize marijuana before the government has the chance to replace the existing law with a regulatory framework.

"It would be reckless in the extreme and perhaps create much greater risk for our communities to remove all control from cannabis," said Blair, a former Toronto police chief and the government's point man on legalization.

"It would create opportunities for organized crime and put our children at risk."

Conservative MP Colin Carrie opposed the motion, but for different reasons than the Liberals. He accused the Liberals of creating a policy vacuum and the NDP of trying to fill it with more bad policy.

Carrie also suggested the Liberals might never come through on their campaign promise to legalize marijuana.

"We don't even know if marijuana is going to become legal, so why would decriminalizing it immediately be the solution?" he asked. "At this time, the only responsible solution is to enforce the law."

Health Minister Jane Philpott formally announced the federal government's plan to legalize and regulate marijuana in a speech to the United Nations General Assembly in New York, saying the legislation could come in spring 2017.

That same day, Trudeau said it would be irresponsible to decriminalize marijuana in the meantime.

"The fact of the matter is that decriminalization ... actually gives a legal stream of income to criminal organizations. That is not what anyone wants in this country."

:-DOh it's gonna hurt!!!!
 

gb123

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They BOTH will follow suit....and rightfully so.

MMJ is here to stay the way it is. Rec will follow suit...you watch.

Our feds Just cant see straight quite yet. Specially after whats her names spouted what she did about decriminalizing it. ( ITS ALREADY DONE) They'll figure it out the first time they go to court (:

There is no way out of legalization, the way it has been put on the table. ;)
 

OGEvilgenius

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"Canadians, both adults and youth, would continue to purchase a product of unknown potency and quality while fuelling the profits of organized crime."

Speaks volumes how they feel about the current situation.
 

JungleStrikeGuy

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"Canadians, both adults and youth, would continue to purchase a product of unknown potency and quality while fuelling the profits of organized crime."

Speaks volumes how they feel about the current situation.
Yep, Raybould made an interesting comment over C-14 in that she doesn't feel the bill has to follow the Carter decision yet is somehow still constitutional because it 'follows the Charter'.

They could very easily make the same argument over MMPR amendments.
 

jafro daweedhound

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I emailed this to Ranken today,


Hi

I am a concerned citizen. It looks like you are a concerned MP. It also looks like Justin should step down....

Hopefully I have your attention. It has also come to my attention that you are attempting to get cannabis decimalized, the chances of that happening are close to nil...Taxes, supply control, LP commitments, ect will prevent that. The fact that peoples lives are being destroyed is of no concern to bill or HC or the LPs.

That being said perhaps you need a bigger stick.....

Demand Justin step down until this can be figured out. What's this????

Well let me take you back a few years, it was the summer that Mark Emery traveled across Canada called "the Summer of Legalization". Mark travelled across Canada smoking cannabis in every large city. In Saskatewan he was arrested for "passing a joint", yes, and he spent 3 months in jail for TRAFFICKING ...

Well Justin has admitted to smoking cannabis - big deal right. Your right but by his own words he has admitted to passing a joint - which is trafficking. Ask Mark. Maybe he gave it to an under aged friend or maybe the person could have been so stoned they drove and killed some one - who knows. Seems awfully reckless of a born leader...our future PM. As bill says the law must be up held.... so PM facing a drug charge for trafficking to which he has already admitted to openly and publicly - really should step down. I know that Justin is so righteous that he will do the right thing....wont he ???? He cant expect other Canadians to be treated different than he is, surely he is not better than other Canadians ??? To bad he never kept his promise to Canada.....

From Huffington Post:
Trudeau said he’s smoked pot five or six times in his life. “It has never really done anything for me,” he later told HuffPost in an email.

“When the joint went around the room, I usually passed it around to the next person,” he said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08/22/justin-trudeau-marijuana-mp_n_3792208.html

Admitting to multiple crimes, looks like we have a problem...

Have a Herb-tastic Day,
 

gb123

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Yep, Raybould made an interesting comment over C-14 in that she doesn't feel the bill has to follow the Carter decision yet is somehow still constitutional because it 'follows the Charter'.

They could very easily make the same argument over MMPR amendments.
They could...up until the FIRST AND ONLY COURT CHALLENGE in which they would loose hands down !! :( and IN THE MEANS TIME...they get told!!!!!!
its simple and its too late for our feds to do anything really. LEGAL is LEGAL..
Live it and LUMP IT..JT didnt start this though which is hilarious...
HARPER DID :lol: hahahahahahaha Classic shit Mr H, ;)
 

gb123

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think about how that will look in a court of Law :lol:

Its kinda like when the Judge says to the Crown... Let me get this straight, You are saying that smoking MMJ is healthier than ingesting MMJ?

:lol:


There aren't any more rocks to crawl under either... ;)
 
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