National Geographic Explorer - Inside LSD

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Hello Friends !
I have found this little gem today and am sharing it with you !
Interesting watch. Perhaps we can get an insightful thread out of this.

There is nothing like educational contemplation on the subject with some of my friends here. Shepj, ANC, NDA, Florida, I have a front row seat reserved for you guys. In case you would like to join me in this viewing. ;)

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moedownonit

Well-Known Member
im at a loss for words on this one....i experienced this flow they talked about when i take lsd and spin poi. Freaking pure meditation. Its the most pure,enlightening thing ive ever experienced. One time i peaked and was spinning and i started crying because of the beauty that i felt. If you have a hard time meditating, i would sugest learning poi. Its the only thing i have found to clear my mind enough to be on that level.
 

Sgt. Floyd

Well-Known Member
I want to dose the guy with the cluster head aches. I wonder if the non-hallucinogenic lsd could be easily converted to regular lsd.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
This is by far one of the greatest drug explorations documentaries I have watched. They really outdone themselves on this one :)

Thanks for bringing this great link to the forums PUFFER ;)
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
This is by far one of the greatest drug explorations documentaries I have watched. They really outdone themselves on this one :)

Thanks for bringing this great link to the forums PUFFER ;)
Hey brothers ... thanks for watching !!
चक्रं

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shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I watched it with a few people last night.. it was a good watch, although I feel they lacked in one area, therapeutic uses (and studies) of LSD... Dr. Stanislav Grof has conducted (and gathered) data from around 4,000 therapeutic (controlled) LSD trips and not once did I see him nor hear reference mentioned to him. I do not see how you can have a show about LSD and not include Stanislav Grof, that would be like not mentioning Albert Hofmann (in my eyes).

One thing I really liked is when Dr. David Nichols said "The Difference Between Medicine and Poison is in the Dose." That made me really happy to hear. It was nice to see Dr. John Halpern as well (albeit I would have liked to have heard more from him).

All in all, good watch.. I think it should be updated and include more information from MAPS (which I don't even know if they mentioned?).
 

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

Well-Known Member
I wish the cluster headache man would get over the illegality LSD. I understand him needing to keep a promise to his daughters, but he needs to realize that because a certain compound may be 'illegal' does not mean it can't help him. Legal and illegal are just enforced ideas by our controlling governments and has no effect whatsoever on the therapeutic use of any given drug, natural or man made. Some people are just too brainwashed I guess. This man could benefit from LSD use in more ways than just the alleviation of his headaches!

Thank you so much for this thread! +rep x ∞
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I wish the cluster headache man would get over the illegality LSD.
There are many legal tryptamines that could be utilized to alleviate his cluster headaches. I am sure he could purchase Psilacetin (4-AcO-DMT) and have great results while avoiding taking an illegal substance.
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Ever wonder ... how it really went down ??

[video=youtube;tx1LgHPEL4Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx1LgHPEL4Q[/video]

[video=youtube;7pAVhJW3EHM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pAVhJW3EHM[/video]

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neohippy

Well-Known Member
Would it be possible to get the same benefit out of psilocin basically, or would it need to be another lysergamide for alleviation of cluster headaches?
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Would it be possible to get the same benefit out of psilocin basically, or would it need to be another lysergamide for alleviation of cluster headaches?
I only know of one other lysergamide that is utilized for migraines (maybe CH?), and that is ergoramine (cafergot).. it really has nothing to do with lysergamides though, it has to do with the fact that LSD is a tryptamine, I mean look at what they prescribed for migraines:

Sumatriptan
Rizatriptan
Zolmitriptan
(and so on and so forth)

The common thing here, is "triptan". Well, what is a triptan?

Triptans are a family of tryptamine-based drugs used as abortive medication in the treatment of migraines and cluster headaches.
Now, what is LSD? (hint: you can find it in the book "TiHKAL"). It's a tryptamine. :-)

So essentially, you could use DMT, Psilocybin, LSD, LSA, Psilacetin (4-AcO-DMT), AMT, AET, DET, etc. for treatment of Migraines (I hear many more people with CH respond to LSD and Psilocybin).

For more information:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_medical1.shtml
http://www.helpforheadaches.com/articles/psilocybin.htm

 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Great job shepj ... now we are going to have kids ... using lsd to treat headaches ... ;)
The dosage used is generally not enough to produce any effects, I would be fine with that. LSD is generally known for long period treatment of migraines with a single dose (some people go without them for ~4 months); Imagine going from having migraines daily to taking ONE dose of LSD and not having another one for the next third of a year.
 
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