My run using HydroGrow leds 189X-PRO extreme LEDS

keebo3000 said:

and at the end of the day all that really matters are the numbers, right?

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Well kinda......personally don't like owners of an led company calling the cops due to a customer service issue, or changing one sex to hide from the thousands of dollars you defrauded honest people out of in the Nissan forums, or the complete lies and marketing campaign claiming your products are the best in the world=====when in fact their just rebranded Chinese panels at a monster markup.

Maybe it's just me though..

Good luck on your grow and I hope you don't have to deal with a warranty claim....

PSUAGRO. said:

Well kinda......personally don't like owners of an led company calling the cops due to a customer service issue, or changing one sex to hide from the thousands of dollars you defrauded honest people out of in the Nissan forums, or the complete lies and marketing campaign claiming your products are the best in the world=====when in fact their just rebranded Chinese panels at a monster markup.

Maybe it's just me though..

Good luck on your grow and I hope you don't have to deal with a warranty claim....

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Hey PSUAGRO thanks my man, I really appreciate well wishing, also on the heads up about the owner of the company, I had no idea before I purchased the light. I did see one negative review, but I thought "hey what company doesn't have at least on negative review" so I purchased the light. So far It's the best decision I've made....as far as light selection goes anyway, lol. I started out with the normal MH/HPS setup, I actually bought a pre-made cabinet when I was new to growing, it was a great learning experience, so im not that upset as to the cost of the cabinet, but what did upset me was the huge rise in my electric bill, it was like an extra 125 dollars... did the math on a year of paying that, and said ok there has got to be a better way, and started looking into LEDs , funny first video I saw using LEDs was a grow done by seymore buds, This guy grew one plant( autoflower) and set the record for autoflower's the plant was massive the seed company did a review on the grow and lights
http://www.dutch-passion.nl/en/news-and-development/new-auto-mazar-world-record-350g-harvest-from-single-plant-here-is-the-grow-diary/ After I saw that I was sold on LED Growing..that was until I went to Hydro grow's website and saw the price!!!! I was like ok, time to rethink this so, I started researching other companies, looking for a better price point, came across DormGrow's website claiming they had a full spectrum light that would take me thru, start to finish just one light. AND IT WAS LIKE HALF of the hydro Grow light!! so I bought that light...my first run i got like 1/3 of what i was normally getting from my HPS setup, unacceptable. ... I contacted the company, and they said" oh you had a small yield? did you get our bloom booster?" ..ummm no. you told me it was a full spectrum light...they said " it is, you just need to buy a light if you want a large yield" ...well then it's not full spectrum!!..soo I bought another light for 150 dollars( creeping in price)... the suggested I buy two , because im in a 4X2 tent..thats another 150...300 in total if your counting. so now we are at 900 in total for the lights....did my yield improve? yes it did ..only by 1/2 an ounce. thats when i noticed part of the panel had gone out....vexed because I was in the middle of a run, I asked could they ship me a light so i could make a swap. and then send it back so i wouldn't experience any downtime. the employee said sure. of course when the time came stories changed, that employee doesn't work here anymore. yeah we see your emails but we are still not honoring you. so now im pissed but need the light fixed....flash foward a couple weeks find out about Pro grow's 400 light. bought it for a similar price point as dormgrow....Much quieter and Much better all around yield and quality I LIKE THAT LIGHT!! but still the yield was alot less than I hoped for. than i watched this video . after that I said fuck the price im going to get what looks to be the best yielding light, screw the cost. Now I'm not saying its the best light on the market, but it is far and away the best light I've grown with, and that is including MH/HPS. my plants have never been so happy, so i would have to say that if these are Chinese lights they are better than what dormgrow and Hydroponics hut have to offer.

And after your scathing comments about the police( big concern) I did more research And was stunned to find out what actually happened here is the link I found http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Cammie-aka-HydroGrow-Led/Henderson-Nevada-89014/Cammie-aka-HydroGrow-Led-Cammie-Mckenzie-Hydro-Grow-LED-HYDRO-GRO-LLC-LEDGirl-LED-Gi-954111#comment_1


Im wondering what other recourse she had then to get the police involved, why would you not return a light and then chargeback the money off of your credit card, especially knowing what your growing at home. dude wasn't the brightest apple on the tree. IJS. is someone took 1400 dollars from you what would you do? me? im not going to go to your house and try to fight you. im calling the police. not cause you grow, because you robbed me. period.



Now the most touchy subject you brought up, the sex change. Me being a black man I was raised on criticism, scorn and namecalling, so much so, when i was younger I wanted to peel my blackskin off of my body, I wanted to be a white little boy so bad so I wouldn't have to deal with the rejection and hate that was my daily meal, if there was a surgery for that I WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING FOR IT. so for her, knowing the ridicule that comes from the decision she made to become a women, and still wanting to go thru it. I applaud her. I'm sure she has lost friends and family over her decision, from people who don't understand what it's like to wanna to be someone else. Im almost 100% positive it wasnt simply over a few thousand dollars. there are people everyday who have that surgery to make themselves feel whole inside. But that does not make her less than human, no one deserves to be shitted on because if how they feel. and this excellent product isn't getting the recognition it deserves because of it. thats the real tragedy here. I did a lot of research last night before i responded to you and found out that your telling the truth she is transgendered http://www.hydrogrowled.com/blog/2014/06/12/cammie-mckenzie-of-hydro-grow-announces-transsexual-status/ but all that matters to me is how great the product is and how happy my plants are.


Peace!! Growers Luv!!

keebo3000 said:

Hey PSUAGRO thanks my man, I really appreciate well wishing, also on the heads up about the owner of the company, I had no idea before I purchased the light. I did see one negative review, but I thought "hey what company doesn't have at least on negative review" so I purchased the light. So far It's the best decision I've made....as far as light selection goes anyway, lol. I started out with the normal MH/HPS setup, I actually bought a pre-made cabinet when I was new to growing, it was a great learning experience, so im not that upset as to the cost of the cabinet, but what did upset me was the huge rise in my electric bill, it was like an extra 125 dollars... did the math on a year of paying that, and said ok there has got to be a better way, and started looking into LEDs , funny first video I saw using LEDs was a grow done by seymore buds, This guy grew one plant( autoflower) and set the record for autoflower's the plant was massive the seed company did a review on the grow and lights
http://www.dutch-passion.nl/en/news-and-development/new-auto-mazar-world-record-350g-harvest-from-single-plant-here-is-the-grow-diary/ After I saw that I was sold on LED Growing..that was until I went to Hydro grow's website and saw the price!!!! I was like ok, time to rethink this so, I started researching other companies, looking for a better price point, came across DormGrow's website claiming they had a full spectrum light that would take me thru, start to finish just one light. AND IT WAS LIKE HALF of the hydro Grow light!! so I bought that light...my first run i got like 1/3 of what i was normally getting from my HPS setup, unacceptable. ... I contacted the company, and they said" oh you had a small yield? did you get our bloom booster?" ..ummm no. you told me it was a full spectrum light...they said " it is, you just need to buy a light if you want a large yield" ...well then it's not full spectrum!!..soo I bought another light for 150 dollars( creeping in price)... the suggested I buy two , because im in a 4X2 tent..thats another 150...300 in total if your counting. so now we are at 900 in total for the lights....did my yield improve? yes it did ..only by 1/2 an ounce. thats when i noticed part of the panel had gone out....vexed because I was in the middle of a run, I asked could they ship me a light so i could make a swap. and then send it back so i wouldn't experience any downtime. the employee said sure. of course when the time came stories changed, that employee doesn't work here anymore. yeah we see your emails but we are still not honoring you. so now im pissed but need the light fixed....flash foward a couple weeks find out about Pro grow's 400 light. bought it for a similar price point as dormgrow....Much quieter and Much better all around yield and quality I LIKE THAT LIGHT!! but still the yield was alot less than I hoped for. than i watched this video

. after that I said fuck the price im going to get what looks to be the best yielding light, screw the cost. Now I'm not saying its the best light on the market, but it is far and away the best light I've grown with, and that is including MH/HPS. my plants have never been so happy, so i would have to say that if these are Chinese lights they are better than what dormgrow and Hydroponics hut have to offer.

And after your scathing comments about the police( big concern) I did more research And was stunned to find out what actually happened here is the link I found http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Cammie-aka-HydroGrow-Led/Henderson-Nevada-89014/Cammie-aka-HydroGrow-Led-Cammie-Mckenzie-Hydro-Grow-LED-HYDRO-GRO-LLC-LEDGirl-LED-Gi-954111#comment_1


Im wondering what other recourse she had then to get the police involved, why would you not return a light and then chargeback the money off of your credit card, especially knowing what your growing at home. dude wasn't the brightest apple on the tree. IJS. is someone took 1400 dollars from you what would you do? me? im not going to go to your house and try to fight you. im calling the police. not cause you grow, because you robbed me. period.



Now the most touchy subject you brought up, the sex change. Me being a black man I was raised on criticism, scorn and namecalling, so much so, when i was younger I wanted to peel my blackskin off of my body, I wanted to be a white little boy so bad so I wouldn't have to deal with the rejection and hate that was my daily meal, if there was a surgery for that I WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING FOR IT. so for her, knowing the ridicule that comes from the decision she made to become a women, and still wanting to go thru it. I applaud her. I'm sure she has lost friends and family over her decision, from people who don't understand what it's like to wanna to be someone else. Im almost 100% positive it wasnt simply over a few thousand dollars. there are people everyday who have that surgery to make themselves feel whole inside. But that does not make her less than human, no one deserves to be shitted on because if how they feel. and this excellent product isn't getting the recognition it deserves because of it. thats the real tragedy here. I did a lot of research last night before i responded to you and found out that your telling the truth she is transgendered http://www.hydrogrowled.com/blog/2014/06/12/cammie-mckenzie-of-hydro-grow-announces-transsexual-status/ but all that matters to me is how great the product is and how happy my plants are.


Peace!! Growers Luv!!

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Well how about all the people out of $10,000 s of nissan parts??? what would you do to that person?? hence the sex change/ moving out of state=== scum move IMO.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/fraud-cammie-mckenzie-fraud.26178/ Also the years of "ledgirl" constant hostility and inappropriate behavior on ALL the grow forums till getting banned.

Look at ICmag's led section, it's now sponsored by HGL and their "free" light contest...... guess what NO free light was ever given out! big shocker............same shit, different day.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=274342&page=4

Don't compare he/she Scammie to skin color and racism because I feel no sympathy whatsoever for a thief.

be safe grower

I don't know about cars, all I care about is cannabis, For me, Bottom line is how well this light works for my plants, and they are Happy as a pig in shit. to each his own tho' because there are alot of companies who sells led grow lights that won't grow shit. this company has far exceeded both lights I've tried previously.


Peace,
Growers Luv

I made a movie!!!!! what do you think?

keebo3000 said:

Hey PSUAGRO thanks my man, I really appreciate well wishing, also on the heads up about the owner of the company, I had no idea before I purchased the light. I did see one negative review, but I thought "hey what company doesn't have at least on negative review" so I purchased the light. So far It's the best decision I've made....as far as light selection goes anyway, lol. I started out with the normal MH/HPS setup, I actually bought a pre-made cabinet when I was new to growing, it was a great learning experience, so im not that upset as to the cost of the cabinet, but what did upset me was the huge rise in my electric bill, it was like an extra 125 dollars... did the math on a year of paying that, and said ok there has got to be a better way, and started looking into LEDs , funny first video I saw using LEDs was a grow done by seymore buds, This guy grew one plant( autoflower) and set the record for autoflower's the plant was massive the seed company did a review on the grow and lights
http://www.dutch-passion.nl/en/news-and-development/new-auto-mazar-world-record-350g-harvest-from-single-plant-here-is-the-grow-diary/ After I saw that I was sold on LED Growing..that was until I went to Hydro grow's website and saw the price!!!! I was like ok, time to rethink this so, I started researching other companies, looking for a better price point, came across DormGrow's website claiming they had a full spectrum light that would take me thru, start to finish just one light. AND IT WAS LIKE HALF of the hydro Grow light!! so I bought that light...my first run i got like 1/3 of what i was normally getting from my HPS setup, unacceptable. ... I contacted the company, and they said" oh you had a small yield? did you get our bloom booster?" ..ummm no. you told me it was a full spectrum light...they said " it is, you just need to buy a light if you want a large yield" ...well then it's not full spectrum!!..soo I bought another light for 150 dollars( creeping in price)... the suggested I buy two , because im in a 4X2 tent..thats another 150...300 in total if your counting. so now we are at 900 in total for the lights....did my yield improve? yes it did ..only by 1/2 an ounce. thats when i noticed part of the panel had gone out....vexed because I was in the middle of a run, I asked could they ship me a light so i could make a swap. and then send it back so i wouldn't experience any downtime. the employee said sure. of course when the time came stories changed, that employee doesn't work here anymore. yeah we see your emails but we are still not honoring you. so now im pissed but need the light fixed....flash foward a couple weeks find out about Pro grow's 400 light. bought it for a similar price point as dormgrow....Much quieter and Much better all around yield and quality I LIKE THAT LIGHT!! but still the yield was alot less than I hoped for. than i watched this video

. after that I said fuck the price im going to get what looks to be the best yielding light, screw the cost. Now I'm not saying its the best light on the market, but it is far and away the best light I've grown with, and that is including MH/HPS. my plants have never been so happy, so i would have to say that if these are Chinese lights they are better than what dormgrow and Hydroponics hut have to offer.

And after your scathing comments about the police( big concern) I did more research And was stunned to find out what actually happened here is the link I found http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Cammie-aka-HydroGrow-Led/Henderson-Nevada-89014/Cammie-aka-HydroGrow-Led-Cammie-Mckenzie-Hydro-Grow-LED-HYDRO-GRO-LLC-LEDGirl-LED-Gi-954111#comment_1


Im wondering what other recourse she had then to get the police involved, why would you not return a light and then chargeback the money off of your credit card, especially knowing what your growing at home. dude wasn't the brightest apple on the tree. IJS. is someone took 1400 dollars from you what would you do? me? im not going to go to your house and try to fight you. im calling the police. not cause you grow, because you robbed me. period.



Now the most touchy subject you brought up, the sex change. Me being a black man I was raised on criticism, scorn and namecalling, so much so, when i was younger I wanted to peel my blackskin off of my body, I wanted to be a white little boy so bad so I wouldn't have to deal with the rejection and hate that was my daily meal, if there was a surgery for that I WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING FOR IT. so for her, knowing the ridicule that comes from the decision she made to become a women, and still wanting to go thru it. I applaud her. I'm sure she has lost friends and family over her decision, from people who don't understand what it's like to wanna to be someone else. Im almost 100% positive it wasnt simply over a few thousand dollars. there are people everyday who have that surgery to make themselves feel whole inside. But that does not make her less than human, no one deserves to be shitted on because if how they feel. and this excellent product isn't getting the recognition it deserves because of it. thats the real tragedy here. I did a lot of research last night before i responded to you and found out that your telling the truth she is transgendered http://www.hydrogrowled.com/blog/2014/06/12/cammie-mckenzie-of-hydro-grow-announces-transsexual-status/ but all that matters to me is how great the product is and how happy my plants are.


Peace!! Growers Luv!!

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He didn't rob her. She robbed him and since she wouldn't honor her word a dispute was filed. You can't dispute things way after the fact either. That shows how long the light lasted for him and the help received on a warranty claim. At least the instance I saw. Maybe he could have waited longer or tried to negotiate more. But she also could have been a stand up business person and handled a bad light correctly. Also no to mention she changed her name on here again and came on here bashing that chloro b2 light or whatever to claim she was ripped off yet really I believe it was a competition diversion tactic. Yet pretended to be someone else yet wasn't smart enough to remove her name from the email strings. Point blank cammie McKenzie is a liar and thief. So might do future business else where not like her lights are the best anyways. At least your having a good experience. But knowing her character I personally would never line her pockets with my money.

Good luck with the grow man.

okay guys I get it, you don't like this person. My thread isn't about her, it's about my beautiful ladies...and they are beautiful right? that is all that matters to me. the customer service was great i might add. thing is with me, I don't take anyone word on anything. I don't let my guard down, but I NEVER take something some say at face value, I would suggest you don't either it results in group speak. What noticed as apparently all you guys did too, was the disparaging thing about the company like four years ago, it was a long time ago. so I started looking for other customers who had abad experience with the light....couldn't find any . not a one. well besides the one back in 2010 i think.I like for things to make sense,So what that tells my analytic mind is that either that one guy was lying and decided to smear the company on internet forums (quite successfully I might add) or this is a horrible company...well if it were so horrible, wouldn't there more than just the one complaint from four years ago, instead all you see are people really happy with the product. even a seed company (Dutch Passion) say that this light produces records all the time its even on their website. so until i see something, or experience something foul, im going to continue praising how wonderful this light is treating my ladies, notice how no one has ever said bad things about how the light grows ,I only see people talking about how bad the person is, that speaks volumes in and of itself. this isn't a popularity contest. it's about efficiency and out of the three lights I own from three different companies, I am most impressed by this one. lets talk cannabis not politics

here it is, day 31 in the same tent the dormgrow was in. the girls are doing fine...better than fine actually..they have red hairs .....the dormgrow never had red hairs just white......

Here we are at day 37..These girls are exceeding my wildest expectations...I am having a slight problem with Taco leaves. stressed plant.. but overall im Happy as a pig in shit with this light.

what are the usual reasons for Taco Leaf?

keebo3000 said:

what are the usual reasons for Taco Leaf?

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usually heat..............

Bloody nice looking plants, m8.

I agree with you on the "who cares where the lights are from if they grow dank" philosophy. I am of a similar mindset.

Plants look great man. But just curious are you 100% sure you aren't 5-7 days off? All your photos look ahead of time. Like in your video day 9 looks more like day 14 or so. Because stretch is sizeable and budsites decently developed. Or were these plants already starting to flower before being thrown in? My plants barely even have noticeable preflowers on day 1 12/12. Got a day one or any photos through week one?

gk skunky said:

Plants look great man. But just curious are you 100% sure you aren't 5-7 days off? All your photos look ahead of time. Like in your video day 9 looks more like day 14 or so. Because stretch is sizeable and budsites decently developed. Or were these plants already starting to flower before being thrown in? My plants barely even have noticeable preflowers on day 1 12/12. Got a day one or any photos through week one?

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I don't think I took any day one pics.....but I THINK I have a video on youtube of week one if you wanna check it out .sorry.
I let them Veg for a month and a half but the reason my ladies look older than they are , is for two reasons the first and probably most important, is the strain. Its Jamaican Dream from Eva seeds which is suppose to finish in 45 days ( my first run took about 60 days) it dosen't really stretch much at all. the two plants to the far left are bubblegummers they stretched waaaaay to much waay to fast, like 3 inches a day. the second reason is the fact that at seven days I stopped the stretch using a plant hormone which, as you can see starts the flowering process early

keebo3000 said:

I don't think I took any day one pics.....but I THINK I have a video on youtube of week one if you wanna check it out .sorry.
I let them Veg for a month and a half but the reason my ladies look older than they are , is for two reasons the first and probably most important, is the strain. Its Jamaican Dream from Eva seeds which is suppose to finish in 45 days ( my first run took about 60 days) it dosen't really stretch much at all. the two plants to the far left are bubblegummers they stretched waaaaay to much waay to fast, like 3 inches a day. the second reason is the fact that at seven days I stopped the stretch using a plant hormone which, as you can see starts the flowering process early

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Ok cool man. I'll take a look and seee. I can totally see that being the case though. Different varieties are all over the map. I have a Sour diesel that's a pheno from cali connection that finishes in like 49 days. End of week 7 it's done, well I should say ripe. Then a chunky diesel that probably takes a good 10-11 weeks to complete, though I've only ran it once so far and cut at 8 due to damn cyano infection issues. Apparently there are a shit ton of spores out and about recently. I had issues with cyano in my DWC buckets all the sudden. Not root rot either. So then I find out I have buddies having issues with their pools. Getting algal bloom and cyano obstructing pumps. Turns out they were told it's been a rampant problem here locally. Just so happens when I look back at it I had the issue a couple days after mowing and my retarded ass not thinking after getting drunk and stoned and mowing went right into the spot. I bet I infected the area like a fucking moron. LOL But anyways the Chunky diesel I have is supposed to be a cross of the same OGSD I have. But they are almost compete opposites. Who knows if they are actually realted but not like that really matters. Key point is some develop and finish way faster than others.

And hey Sorry about the Cammie shit. You're right though. If the light works the light works. I've seen other things online from her that make me skidish and would shy me away. But that's me and my decision. You don't have to make the same. That's for sure. I just hope you get your moneys worth, which it looks you are, and that you or anyone for that matter is done wrong. I have my opinions but doesn't mean I can't watch and judge a grow and a persons experience for myself. Do your thing man. Besides nothing stopping a reputable company today going to shit tomorrow, and the opposite can also be the truth(though much harder to reconcile). Shit it may sound completely off topic but look at the TV market, it's kinda similar. Some being flat out honest, some polishing it up a little, and then some are out right deceiving. Shit it took me about 2 months to make my mind up. Ended up buying 3 tvs and returning 2. LOL






Just looked up Jamaican dream. You might check out the Jamaican D like I have from cali connection. It does spit out some bananas but I've never found a seed a single time and so determined at least my pheno why may exhibit some hermie traits is completely sterile. But it looks similar. it has a strong sativa high that rounds off later into a narco type state. Great bag appeal. very pleasant smell and taste. Best of all 8 weeks is enough unless you want more amber going on.

gk skunky said:

Ok cool man. I'll take a look and seee. I can totally see that being the case though. Different varieties are all over the map. I have a Sour diesel that's a pheno from cali connection that finishes in like 49 days. End of week 7 it's done, well I should say ripe. Then a chunky diesel that probably takes a good 10-11 weeks to complete, though I've only ran it once so far and cut at 8 due to damn cyano infection issues. Apparently there are a shit ton of spores out and about recently. I had issues with cyano in my DWC buckets all the sudden. Not root rot either. So then I find out I have buddies having issues with their pools. Getting algal bloom and cyano obstructing pumps. Turns out they were told it's been a rampant problem here locally. Just so happens when I look back at it I had the issue a couple days after mowing and my retarded ass not thinking after getting drunk and stoned and mowing went right into the spot. I bet I infected the area like a fucking moron. LOL But anyways the Chunky diesel I have is supposed to be a cross of the same OGSD I have. But they are almost compete opposites. Who knows if they are actually realted but not like that really matters. Key point is some develop and finish way faster than others.

And hey Sorry about the Cammie shit. You're right though. If the light works the light works. I've seen other things online from her that make me skidish and would shy me away. But that's me and my decision. You don't have to make the same. That's for sure. I just hope you get your moneys worth, which it looks you are, and that you or anyone for that matter is done wrong. I have my opinions but doesn't mean I can't watch and judge a grow and a persons experience for myself. Do your thing man. Besides nothing stopping a reputable company today going to shit tomorrow, and the opposite can also be the truth(though much harder to reconcile). Shit it may sound completely off topic but look at the TV market, it's kinda similar. Some being flat out honest, some polishing it up a little, and then some are out right deceiving. Shit it took me about 2 months to make my mind up. Ended up buying 3 tvs and returning 2. LOL






Just looked up Jamaican dream. You might check out the Jamaican D like I have from cali connection. It does spit out some bananas but I've never found a seed a single time and so determined at least my pheno why may exhibit some hermie traits is completely sterile. But it looks similar. it has a strong sativa high that rounds off later into a narco type state. Great bag appeal. very pleasant smell and taste. Best of all 8 weeks is enough unless you want more amber going on.

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thanks for the love my man!! I will look into Jamaican D right now!!

Peace!! new pics every monday!!

there are so many butt hurt people about my light, I decided to feature my other light this week The pro grow400. I like this light. it's not as powerful as the HGL but it is giving me some nice tight nodes and alot of bud sites...here is day 25

I won't talk about my light elsewhere anymore but fuck the haters on my thread I LOVE THIS LIGHT!!! its day 47 and thesegirls only have a couple more days!!! (Please no hate here guys, please don't accuse me of using HID then switching to LED) my path has been a long one. this is my best grow by far. and that is including the HID grows I did here are my ladies on day 47 of flower

lovely looking plants man, congrats.

vladimiroslav said:

lovely looking plants man, congrats.

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thanks!!