My highest reccomendation for this inexpensive unit,ZERO SMELL & cheap.

panhead said:

I like new toys so im constantly trying out new stuff,mostly just for fun since ive got my rooms pretty much nailed down,i started out with expensive carbon filters,went on to make my own $3 carbon filters,then went on to Ozone Generators.

I first bought a Corona Discharge (static electricity) unit & it worked well but was expensive as hell costing about $500 & can be effected by humidity levels,i then went on to buy a UV (Ultraviolet Light) pro model & it was the cats ass but again very expensive costing $400 but a better performer over the Corona discharge unit,UV Ozone generators are not effected by humidity & provide a constant Ozone output.

My grow op's are using the pro model UV Generators with zero smell.

I Decided to try (out of boredom) smaller & cheaper units,i bought a few of these smaller (or so i thought) UV Ozone Generators thinking that if they were'nt powerfull enough i could dump them on ebay & make a few bucks, or at the very least break even.

Here it is.

The units are 2 ft long X 4 inches wide & 2 inchs thick,they weigh about 10 lbs each,they are much larger & much more rugged than they look in pictures.

Im sure they are for sale at alot of different hydro shops & on ebay but this shop i know for sure sells them pretty cheap & is a legit shop to buy from.

OZN-1 Ozone Generator [OZN-1] - $139.95 : neHydro.com, Hydroponics and Gardening Supplies

Anyhow out of the 3 different model & various prices ive paid for Ozone Generators this unit is without a doubt the best value unit ive found & its performance will be able to easily kill ALL SMELL from most grows,even larger scale grows.

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Panhead

How big is your grow room?

I am going to need something soon

Do you this instead of carbon filters or with?

Thanks man

T

TCurtiss said:

Panhead

How big is your grow room?

I am going to need something soon

Do you this instead of carbon filters or with?

Thanks man

T

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VERY difficult to set up proper thats all i can say...........

wyteboi said:

VERY difficult to set up proper thats all i can say...........

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not at all.... read my post on the previous page wyteboi...

-potlike

my setup that works great! and i am a VERY skeptical person.....

potlike said:

Make the room smaller....Can you put the ozone generator inline or atleast construct a small room (box) so that it can do it's job.. you may even wrap a carbon replacement filter with a rubber band around the end of the exhaust as well. When I say carbon replacement filter it's similar to the filters you'll see for your furnace.. you can get them at walmart. Try it out and let me know how it works.

-potlike

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sorry pot , i missed ur post. but before i even built the dump room i put the ozone gen inline and it did nothing at all due to the dirty air just flying right past the generator not allowing it to do its job.
and i have a 3 speed fan and it was on low (about 180 cfm's) and i have been working on it ever since..... so yes it really hard to set one up proper.
unless....... *inhale* i am just stupid (very possible) and missing *coughing almost to a puke* something here ?
Thanks for the effort potlike , its hard to get responses sometimes!

wyteboi said:

sorry pot , i missed ur post. but before i even built the dump room i put the ozone gen inline and it did nothing at all due to the dirty air just flying right past the generator not allowing it to do its job.
and i have a 3 speed fan and it was on low (about 180 cfm's) and i have been working on it ever since..... so yes it really hard to set one up proper.
unless....... *inhale* i am just stupid (very possible) and missing *coughing almost to a puke* something here ?
Thanks for the effort potlike , its hard to get responses sometimes!

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You're not stupid. But trust me on this.
Build a smaller room and it's done.... build a box that is 3x3x3 or 2x2x2... if you really wanna slow air flow down and clean it make carbon filter screens in the box and put the ozone gen in there... it WILL work.


-potlike

potlike said:

You're not stupid. But trust me on this.
Build a smaller room and it's done.... build a box that is 3x3x3 or 2x2x2... if you really wanna slow air flow down and clean it make carbon filter screens in the box and put the ozone gen in there... it WILL work.


-potlike

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IF im going to exaust it out of the dump , The ONLY way the ozone gen will work for "heavy odors" is to slow down the cfm's to whatever the actual computer fan in the ozone gen. (maybe 5 cfm ..... no where near enough to grow.)
I am using it everyway possible right now .... i know.

wyteboi said:

IF im going to exaust it out of the dump , The ONLY way the ozone gen will work for "heavy odors" is to slow down the cfm's to whatever the actual computer fan in the ozone gen. (maybe 5 cfm ..... no where near enough to grow.)
I am using it everyway possible right now .... i know.

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No... by layering 2-3 screens of carbon filters + the ozone gen that is not necessary .... also you can throw a larger fan on TOP of the ozone gen as well..... trust me I've done this w/ a very small ozone gen.

-potlike

Thanks for the input, wyteboi! We WILL figure something out.......and where's panhead?? <---wonder what he thinks, but he's probably already answered earlier in this big thread. I still need to go back and read.

potlike, so are you saying, in effect, that these machines put out more ozone than the little fan in them pushes out?? I mean, it would seem to me that you'd be thinning it out if blowing it around more if you were to put a fan on top of it?? I dont know and it sounds as though you do know! Did you have some pretty smelly stuff??
Well, I will try this tomorrow night or Monday<----what you say about the smaller chamber, etc. I am still not sure what your talking about the carbon screens---like furnace filters......is this just to spread the air around more??---by slowing it down builds the back pressure......but also mixes the air....? Are you saying that having one of those CAP 5500cf machines and putting it directly inline, and running the fan at say 200cfm, that that should work?? Reading their specs at the website I realize they claim that works-------wyteboi has tried it and claims bs, which at this point I would have to agree.
Dont give up on us, potlike(+rep4u); I very much appreciate any feedback you have on this issue and am willing to try anything at this point.........

Thanks again!!
gman

Ozone likes cool, dry air to slow spontaneous decomposition.. Its heavier than air, and electrical grounding will decompose it..

Thank a lot for all the info u always post i have learned quite a bit . i do have a few more question that i would like to ask you but i dont know how to send u a PM can u help me .

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Thanks for the input, wyteboi! We WILL figure something out.......and where's panhead?? <---wonder what he thinks, but he's probably already answered earlier in this big thread. I still need to go back and read.

potlike, so are you saying, in effect, that these machines put out more ozone than the little fan in them pushes out?? I mean, it would seem to me that you'd be thinning it out if blowing it around more if you were to put a fan on top of it?? I dont know and it sounds as though you do know! Did you have some pretty smelly stuff??
Well, I will try this tomorrow night or Monday<----what you say about the smaller chamber, etc. I am still not sure what your talking about the carbon screens---like furnace filters......is this just to spread the air around more??---by slowing it down builds the back pressure......but also mixes the air....? Are you saying that having one of those CAP 5500cf machines and putting it directly inline, and running the fan at say 200cfm, that that should work?? Reading their specs at the website I realize they claim that works-------wyteboi has tried it and claims bs, which at this point I would have to agree.
Dont give up on us, potlike(+rep4u); I very much appreciate any feedback you have on this issue and am willing to try anything at this point.........

Thanks again!!
gman

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this is an example of the filter I was talking about.

http://www.business-supply.com/honeywell-enviracaire-silentcomfort-air-purifier-activated-carbon-pre-filter_112823.html

Now take your grow room with however you set it up and the fans that exhaust into your clean exhaust room...

Build a box.... 2x2 3x3 it doesn't matter it could even be a SEALED rubbermaid make an INTAKE and an exhaust. The intake comes from your grow room.. the exhaust goes into your 'clean room' ... put the ozone generator in there and on the top where the exhaust is wrap around one of those carbon filters.

Let me know how this works for you.


-potlike

Here, i wrote on your pic to explain :



And we need a way to do this without the clean room being sealed, and plus that pre-filter you showed is not for heavy odors. (it will help a little but just not for heavy odors)
so your idea can work , just not for "homegrowers" ..............unless you could show us a different way?

wyteboi said:

Here, i wrote on your pic to explain :
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And we need a way to do this without the clean room being sealed, and plus that pre-filter you showed is not for heavy odors. (it will help a little but just not for heavy odors)
so your idea can work , just not for "homegrowers" ..............unless you could show us a different way?

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are you kidding me?????

I HAVE DONE THIS and it works... my plants were REAKING in even VEGGING state.... if this doesn't work you have an odor leak elsewhere no other way around it.... This shit took care of some of the skunkiest strains you will fine... ozone + carbon filters work-period.

The clean room is not sealed the CLEANING CHAMBER except for the intake and outttake is sealed.

Everyone in the chat channel seems to think it was clear enough but ...just for clarification's sake it EXHAUSTS THROUGH THE CARBON FILTER there is not back pressure.... if you want to be even more positive the ozone gets to react w/ the air put one more divider between the ozone and exhaust port... in other words put the exhaust port all the way on the right and stick a sheet of plywood that goes maybe 6 inches from the bottom of the chamber. The carbon filter can even be passive as it would be pressure regulated and the pressure would drive it through the carbon filter hence again cleaning the air. Let me state again there is no back pressure that is going to cause any problems here.

Instead of being lazy and telling me it doesn't work without even building it... why don't you TRY it and then you can THANK me afterwards.

-potlike

panhead said:

i vent dirty air into a dead space & dump it,then scrub the air within that space & vent the cleaned air at a slower rate to the outside.

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I tried it..THOROUGHLY.. it will not work that easy.?

panhead said:

however it will kill any odor from as many plants (in full bloom) that you can cram into a 10 L x 15 W x 9 H room,easily

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YOU please show me how u did this ?........it wont work for 6 good plants ?
this is the first part of this thread and im just sayin it dont work his way, and he is the one who started this thread (unless u have a GIANT "clean room".... then sorry panhead)

potlike said:

are you kidding me?????

I HAVE DONE THIS and it works

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I AM DOING IT RIGHT NOW........not before.

potlike said:

ozone + carbon filters work-period.

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YES i agree on carbon FILTERS but not PRE-filters !

if u did this before ..... where did u send YOUR clean air ? if u just quit being so lazy and read some more u might have seen my pic of it ALREADY in action.

Hell i had the ozone generator ordered before i even got done reading this thread , i was all over it, (cause of the first 6 or 7 pages)
..........so dont say im lazy

wyteboi said:

I AM DOING IT RIGHT NOW........not before.



YES i agree on carbon FILTERS but not PRE-filters !

if u did this before ..... where did u send YOUR clean air ? if u just quit being so lazy and read some more u might have seen my pic of it ALREADY in action.

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This worked WITH and WITHOUT the ozone generator.... I used some 4 inch pvc with holes cut in it from BIG R and wrapped two prefilters around it. It was done... no more smell.

I saw yours and you have the fan on the exhaust into clean room..... that's a no no you're pulling the air from the o3 gen before it has time to clean it. Put the fan in the grow room BLOWING into the o3 clean air chamber and let the pressure take the air out of the FILTERED exhaust passively by doing this you are allowing the chamber to fill and react with the o3 killing the odor and then exhausting out of the FILTERED out take.

-potlike

potlike said:

This worked WITH and WITHOUT the ozone generator.... I used some 4 inch pvc with holes cut in it from BIG R and wrapped two prefilters around it. It was done... no more smell.

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if it worked without the ozone then your prefilters must be enough for you. So you dont even need ozone then ? how often do u have to replace the carbon paper?
I guess that would work for a Very small closet grow ??

potlike said:

I saw yours and you have the fan on the exhaust into clean room..... that's a no no you're pulling the air from the o3 gen before it has time to clean it. Put the fan in the grow room BLOWING into the o3 clean air chamber and let the pressure take the air out of the FILTERED exhaust passively by doing this you are allowing the chamber to fill and react with the o3 killing the odor and then exhausting out of the FILTERED out take.

-potlike

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Now that is a very good point! and i finally decided that a passive outake would be the only way to go..........so i redid my setup again , this time with the air pushing into the clean room (6") and i built a damper that will only open when the room gets full and i didn't realize at the time that the clean room would fill up and push itself out so QUICK that it didnt work, and thats with only 200 cfm's - the smaller outake than intake so i have it slowed down as much as u possibly can and its still too fast................. That ozone generator is made to sit IN the room with the odor...... If i just use the ozone gen AS a fan then it WILL work but we are talkin like 5 or 10 cfm's (not enough to grow) like i said i tried EVERYTHING before i spent more money for no reason....so i finally got a 40lb carbon can and boy was i wrong about carbon , that shit really works ! but its not workin for the other guy so i am tryin to help him figure it out.......
i am just sayin he shouldnt have started a thread like this without even responding. just not good manners........... no big deal though we all LOVE what we do

potlike said:

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Now take your grow room with however you set it up and the fans that exhaust into your clean exhaust room...

Build a box.... 2x2 3x3 it doesn't matter it could even be a SEALED rubbermaid make an INTAKE and an exhaust. The intake comes from your grow room.. the exhaust goes into your 'clean room' ... put the ozone generator in there and on the top where the exhaust is wrap around one of those carbon filters.

Let me know how this works for you.


-potlike

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That is what I am trying tomorrow.......something has to work!

Right now I have it about the same as last night.....but passive on the exhaust--already is making a bit of difference. I have the fan in the clean/dump room, like you said not to---also another inline fan set-up for exhaust(shut it off). So I will figure out another place to put the 'pusher' fan.<----my original prob was that I had to exhaust my ac(portable 12,000) into my filter set-up because it was stinking. I bought a new 12,000btu unit from the hydro shop with the intake and exhaust hoses. Be warned(anyone buying these) that the compressor IS NOT sealed and they still send out smell!!<----that $600 didn't fix my problems at all! Because of the humidity in the exhaust from the ac, I am quite sure I've about killed my carbon filter.

Something else, potlike. In my dump room I had my exhaust fan sitting on top of the Can 50 and ducted up and out---so it was 'pulling' the air through the filter. Now when I set it back up your way, do I want the filter outside of the chamber I am going to build and 'in' the clean room, or
outside the clean room itself??<--and no fan, I know. And it's okay to push the air through these cans?? I am getting a new one!

I think I will be fine after this run is over--I have new cool tubes to install so that should take the majority of the heat out and cancel the ac enough to put in another light and make it 6 x 600. I 'll let you know how it goes and I will be close to here tomorrow.

wyteboi, I am quite sure you have it figured out that my filter is going bad, eh...? They are 100% in my previous experiences with them. And I knew the RH was killing it, or at least would if it hadn't yet. That's why I went with ozone, thinking that would just handle all of it and I 'd have an
'easy out.' NOT! At this point I have so much $$ tied up in my room that I need to start selling, haha!...........uh, no comment

I thank you guys for your talking about this---falls right in my boat!! What's this 'chat channel' you mention, potlike??

Well, panhead, thanks for the thread you started--it would be great to hear your input and/but I am sure you are busy doing something we all love in one of the rooms you work---work we love, yes

So did the filter do the trick for you, wyteboi??

gman