My grow journal for P. cyans

Mean Mr. Mustard

Mean Mr. Mustard

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wow thats such a beautiful sight! nice job. how ya keep the humidity up once it starts pinning? you cant directly spray the mushies can ya, i thought that would hurt em??
 
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Hyoctane

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Mean Mr. Mustard said:
wow thats such a beautiful sight! nice job. how ya keep the humidity up once it starts pinning? you cant directly spray the mushies can ya, i thought that would hurt em??
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kinda like the green house effect..humidity will stay up as long as you keep lid on the tubs. also its a split subject on direct spaying the mushies. some peeps say that it will hurt them. i figure out in the wild it rains right???? so i do it and it doesnt seem to hurt anything
 
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archdem0n

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cyans are wood lovers, PF TEK is not for suitable for this. You should have colonized grain and cased it. You may be growing a different species from the looks of it.

Also, for humidity, perlite is used where humidifiers are not. Field capacity perlite gives us incredible humidity potential. All you do is moisten it, line the bottom of a rubbermaid container, and put your cakes or whatever inside. The only problem you have to worry about is fresh air exchange. The technique being used here utilizes the casing's moisture which is not efficient at all. You do not spray mushrooms or mycelium directly. there is no split on the subject, you do NOT do it in indoor growing settings. It harms the growing mycelium and causes contamination; severe contams.

Also, from your pics, it looks like your are not giving them enough oxygen, or the air in the FC (fruiting chamber) is stagnant.

If you want some information PM me, I have studied mushrooms extensively.

Your setup looks okay, you are getting pins, but you could be achieveing this at a far more efficient rate. Especially using colonized grains, and disposing on the ineffcieint PF TEK.
 
FoxCompany426

FoxCompany426

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archdem0n said:
cyans are wood lovers, PF TEK is not for suitable for this. You should have colonized grain and cased it. You may be growing a different species from the looks of it.

Also, for humidity, perlite is used where humidifiers are not. Field capacity perlite gives us incredible humidity potential. All you do is moisten it, line the bottom of a rubbermaid container, and put your cakes or whatever inside. The only problem you have to worry about is fresh air exchange. The technique being used here utilizes the casing's moisture which is not efficient at all. You do not spray mushrooms or mycelium directly. there is no split on the subject, you do NOT do it in indoor growing settings. It harms the growing mycelium and causes contamination; severe contams.

Also, from your pics, it looks like your are not giving them enough oxygen, or the air in the FC (fruiting chamber) is stagnant.

If you want some information PM me, I have studied mushrooms extensively.

Your setup looks okay, you are getting pins, but you could be achieveing this at a far more efficient rate. Especially using colonized grains, and disposing on the ineffcieint PF TEK.
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Now, I don't mean to impose on your statement, nor do I mean to say that you are wrong, but HY has been doing this for quite a long time now. I'm sure that along the way, through the numerous grows he has successfully accomplished with little or no contams, he has picked up on the different techniques and practices. If you would have been so kind to correctly read the first few posts on this thread, you would have noticed that he is using information from multiple different teks and has modified it to his liking. I'm not saying that the way you do it is wrong, but don't runover someone else's thread trying to tell them they're doing something wrong, especially when they're obviously doing something right.
 
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archdem0n

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That's fine. Even a "pro" should take criticism and improve his craft. Cultivating any species of any organism is an evolving craft. A personal method is great, and if it works then by all means use it to your heart's content.

For example, he uses lysol spray. 10% bleach spray is 100x better. Lysol is pretty useless. I am not trying to pick a bone but offer help to improve yields. Like I said, I have been studying mushrooms for quite some time and have some insights that perhaps he is unaware of.

This is a problem with "TEKs": people copycat them, and don't understand what they are doing. Just because something "works" or is "proven" doesn't mean you don't have to understand WHY it is that way.

What I was getting at from my previous post is, PF TEK is a method for colonizing a substrate. Using Grains is far better. In this case, the PK tek is so special because of the dried verm that is used as a top layer against contamination resistance. Brown rice flour is nothing special, and reserch since the 50s has shown mycelium grows on it. People think that because its just 2 ingredients the tek is so special. That's only the appeal, but not what PF wanted to convey with it.
 
FoxCompany426

FoxCompany426

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archdem0n said:
That's fine. Even a "pro" should take criticism and improve his craft. Cultivating any species of any organism is an evolving craft. A personal method is great, and if it works then by all means use it to your heart's content.

For example, he uses lysol spray. 10% bleach spray is 100x better. Lysol is pretty useless. I am not trying to pick a bone but offer help to improve yields. Like I said, I have been studying mushrooms for quite some time and have some insights that perhaps he is unaware of.

This is a problem with "TEKs": people copycat them, and don't understand what they are doing. Just because something "works" or is "proven" doesn't mean you don't have to understand WHY it is that way.

What I was getting at from my previous post is, PF TEK is a method for colonizing a substrate. Using Grains is far better. In this case, the PK tek is so special because of the dried verm that is used as a top layer against contamination resistance. Brown rice flour is nothing special, and reserch since the 50s has shown mycelium grows on it. People think that because its just 2 ingredients the tek is so special. That's only the appeal, but not what PF wanted to convey with it.
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I understand where you are coming from. It just seemed from the start of your post your were being somewhat of a...... douche. HAHA.
 
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Hyoctane

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hey gents... no need to argue over a mushroom tek.. archdemon i understand and hear everything you your saying on the growmethods of this strain. i did this post because i was bored and figured why the hell not. i have done bulk with rye berries, cardboard, wet shreaded news paper, corncobs, and have done very well and very poor in all aspects. i can take criticism also.. and as far as your 10% bleach i cant spray it into the air because it jacks with my sinus so i use what i can to comp for it. but i will say thank you for your input and insight on this subject (thats why we all share on this website to learn from each other) besides im growing the mushies to make some ECONAL to run my lawn mower... FOX has been ther thru thick and thin and has seen my acomplisments and failures and knows i dont boast or run anyone over on what they do. im not the all mighty mycologist as you aparently are so excuse my ingnorence sir
 
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archdem0n

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bleach: not for the air, for surfaces. If you are worried about airborne contaminants get a flow hood. Lysol may "work" for you, but i'm guessing its coincidence since it doesn't kill what you want dead in the air anyways.

Its nice to know you are well-rounded and don't just want to study cubes all day long. Mushrooms are an exciting organism that has a slew of untapped potential, like you mention, as a fuel.

And it is nice to be all-mighty on a forum or whatever... just dont start getting into a flame war and throwing sarcasm around. I was genuinely trying to offer some information.

I don't deserve a gang rape about a magic mushroom grow on a weed growing forum..... thanks. :peace:
 
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Hyoctane

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archdem0n said:
bleach: not for the air, for surfaces. If you are worried about airborne contaminants get a flow hood. Lysol may "work" for you, but i'm guessing its coincidence since it doesn't kill what you want dead in the air anyways.

Its nice to know you are well-rounded and don't just want to study cubes all day long. Mushrooms are an exciting organism that has a slew of untapped potential, like you mention, as a fuel.

And it is nice to be all-mighty on a forum or whatever... just dont start getting into a flame war and throwing sarcasm around. I was genuinely trying to offer some information.

I don't deserve a gang rape about a magic mushroom grow on a weed growing forum..... thanks. :peace:
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dude i take it like i read it..my practices are crap to you...i used 10% bleach to and wiped down everything in my little grow area and all tools i washed in 10% i just didnt mention it. and i use the lysol as a secondary defense. and some peeps that would like to grow my not be able to use a flow hood..and what info did you offer???? and trust me you didnt get gang raped i dont need help rippin you a new one.. your so sure about yourself in my view of you that
your blind... and here is my proof.. you said "magic mushroom grow on a weed growing forum" here is where we are "
Hallucinatory Substances
Everything but marijuana, discuss LSD, mushrooms etc. :peace: your welcome
 
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archdem0n

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Hyoctane said:
dude i take it like i read it..my practices are crap to you...i used 10% bleach to and wiped down everything in my little grow area and all tools i washed in 10% i just didnt mention it. and i use the lysol as a secondary defense. and some peeps that would like to grow my not be able to use a flow hood..and what info did you offer???? and trust me you didnt get gang raped i dont need help rippin you a new one.. your so sure about yourself in my view of you that
your blind... and here is my proof.. you said "magic mushroom grow on a weed growing forum" here is where we are "
Hallucinatory Substances
Everything but marijuana, discuss LSD, mushrooms etc. :peace: your welcome
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Your practices aren't crap; like I said you're getting pin sets. They can be improved. Also, this is a sub section of on a weed growing forum, if you want to start getting into definitions for our online actions.

What a hot head. it is lucky for you we are separated by computer screens.:peace:
 
FoxCompany426

FoxCompany426

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archdem0n said:
Your practices aren't crap; like I said you're getting pin sets. They can be improved. Also, this is a sub section of on a weed growing forum, if you want to start getting into definitions for our online actions.

What a hot head. it is lucky for you we are separated by computer screens.:peace:
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Hehehe, you still don't understand, but that's ok.

P.S. I don't think a peace sign is "suitable" after a statement like that.
 
kayabear

kayabear

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cyanescens are small but they pack a huge punch. one of the most intense mushroom trips Ive had was on cyans and I only ate a half eighth, thinking I would have a mild trip.... wrong. Those things were jam packed with psilocybin, and I tripped almost as If I had eaten like a quarter. Awesome spiritual time it was. I've got one colonized jar going of them right now, hasn't done too much so far though....
 
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Hyoctane

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Hello everyone hope all is well and you folks are doing great! :p i just picked 10 mushies out of one tub and wanted to share them with ya. Here is a tub picture and a picture of the 10 mushies i picked compared to a 5 dallor bill.

PS the 10 mushies weigh 75 grams wet
 

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