My First Grow

I started with 10 White Widows. All germinated and all but one sprouted on May 11, 2010.

I am running a 400W MH

The tent has been running a little hot so I opened it up and am blowing air from the room in, I figured the small amount of light lost and temps right at 80 is better then running close to 90.

#2 is the runt, and #8 is growing sideways so i stood it up (any tips for fixing this would be helpful)

Thanks for any help guys, not sure when to start giving them nutes, just been watering when the soil at least 2" down is no longer moist.

you can start with a quarter strength solution of your chosen nutrients now that the cotlydons (seedling leaves) have yellowed. This means the plant is looking for nitrogen. Give it some of what it wants. If you need to stake #8 that is the only thing needed for it. It will straighten out toward the light.

Thanks Skunk.

I am gonna go organic on this one, and I picked up some worm castings today, and I would like to get a nice tea to give these girls. Any tips would be great help.

I will see what I have lying around the house to use for a stake.

Any other input from the pros would be helpful, I know I am only 12 days in but just watching them has got me very anxious for the end smoke

looking great, I wouldn't start any nutes yet. white widows burn pretty easy compared to others. Maybe ease up on the water a bit, it looks like some of the plants are getting a little droopy. the roots are probably starting to grow pretty well and are probably starting to reach water under the two inch mark. I'd maybe transplant them into a larger container sometime before this weekend, never know how busy you are gonna over the holiday weekend. Looks great, I can't believe how compact the entire plant is, that mh is pretty amazing! I bet the entire plant at least doubles in height when you switch to flowering.

and if you felt really motivated you could always try adding some homemade co2 to the grow. Its cheap for supplies, and you might as well check in the kitchen cabinets, depending on where you live a lot of people have yeast and sugar already just sitting around.

So here is an update...

I have started de-chlorinating the water for the tea, and did, in fact, have yeast and sugar in the cupboard and have put a glass of it in the tent, not sure how much it will help but every little bit counts.

For these pics I got two shots of the whole tent and then pulled out the best two and got some close in shots. Pic 3 and 4 are the same plant and pic 5 is another.

As always thanks for everyone's advice and I look forward to hearing some more.

Also the second close-up pic shows a damaged leaf on the plant, I looked and none of the others have any damaged leaves, any ideas what caused that??

I wouldn't give them any nutes yet. Those plants are a nice healthy green color. the deformed leaf happens to some plants, wait until the leaf falls off then throw it away. heres an easy guide for knowing when your plants needs some nutes, it was taken from the sticky in the general growing section. (i didnt write it)


Before we get into this I want you to check a couple things, check the following things:

• Plants have plenty of water
• Soil is seven PH or even a little less
• Your light cycles are correct
• No pools of water
• Constant fresh air

Now thats out of the way let Mr. Ganja God diagnose your plant

Bigger leaves are turning a yellowish color while the smaller leaves are green.

• Nitrogen deficiency - add nitrate of soda or organic fertilizer.

Older leaves will curl at edges, turn dark, possibly with a purple cast.

• Phosphorous deficiency - add commercial phosphate.

Mature leaves develop a yellowish cast to least veinal areas.

• Magnesium deficiency - add commercial fertilizer with a magnesium content.

Mature leaves turn yellow and then become spotted with edge areas
turning dark gray.

• Potassium deficiency - add muriate of potash.

Cracked stems, no healthy support tissue.

• Boron deficiency -add any plant food containing boron.

Small wrinkled leaves with yellowish vein systems.

• Zinc deficiency - add commercial plant food containing zinc.

Young leaves become deformed, possibly yellowing.

• Molybedum deficiency - use any plant food with a bit of molybdenum in it.

Do you think I should switch lighting cycles at all, right now I am running it 24hrs a day, do I need to switch to an 18/6 or is 24hr light better while they are still young?

So I may have some issues,

The plants are looking droopy and I am 99% sure it is in need of water which they got 1 cup each after being transplanted into bigger pots today that was a mixture of a peat moss, top soil, compost mix, 1/2 cup of worm castings, and 1/2 cup of pot ash out of our fire pit.

After the transplant most of the plants have sprung back some.

Just want to make sure nothing detrimental is wrong with them

looks like compost tea's are going to need to be started pretty soon. I'd probably say by tuesday, the worm castings added should help it out for those few days. Since these are just after transplant it is difficult to tell if they are drooping from water/lack of water or from the transplant. How often are you watering? I'd give them about 1.5 cups of water every 5 days, maybe 4 days if they look really dry. If you are watering more often then every 4 days you are likely giving them way to much. My first time growing the WW I watered about every 5 days. The most I ever watered was every 3-4 days when I was in the middle to late stages of flowering. Also, roughly how close are the lights? They should be around 1.5 ft away, just want to make sure if you put your hand by the plants the light doesn't feel hot at all. not hot to the touch, but past the warm sensation. its hard to explain. Something is f'ed up with plant 4, can't really say what off the top of my head. I know the general growing section and indoor sections have nice stickies that explain a LOT of plant problems with some pictures. I know I've seen this problem in one of the pictures, but have to head out to work so can't look anything up right now. This evening you should be able to tell if they are droopy from watering or the transplant. If they are still droopy, it is likely too much water, if they have bounced back then you should keep up what you are doing. After the weekend you will know for sure what is going on.

the first pics in this forum is from their last watering, it was 6 days ago so i knew they needed some, they all looked this way just prior to transplant, so I know none of the present signs were caused by the stress of that.

Did you mean plant 6 has the cancer? This just appeared on Thursday morning out of the blue, so hopefully it is caught early enough to reverse the problem.

Thanks for the help widow! Any other opinions would be great, also anyone who knows what is wrong with plant #6 would be very helpful.

So here are the plants after the weekend and transplanting. They are in the same order as the previous pics so you can compare from Thursday.

The droopyness of under watering has completely gone from the plants but the yellowing still remains and plant #6 has gotten worse.

The parts of her leaves past the brown is dead and crispy

Thanks to Widow for his help but I am disappointed in the rest of the community, I was told that on this forum i would get plenty of help if I ever had any problems but it seems just the opposite I can't get help from anyone with the exception of the two that have commented and I very much appreciate it Skunk and Widow.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!!

I'd start brewing your compost tea. As far as others helping, sometimes they do, sometimes they dont. Sometimes you need to create a thread for your specific problems, other times it just takes lots of searching on this forum. There is pretty much an answer to every question and problem on here, you just need to look it up. Pictures help only so much, but its up to you to search all the stickies on plant problems and to use the search feature to find threads with similar issues and see how they fixed it.

More pics, just before I gave them some tea, we will see in a few days if it has helped at all.

Still some nute problems but on the whole all have new growth and are looking better overall.

looking better on the whole. Most seem to have solid new growth with little if any worsening of the lower plant. Nows the time to dial in the compost tea for flowering stage to get ready for then. That is when the compost tea will be a little more complicated, just making sure to get all the right ingredients into it.

So it has been a while since I posted.

I have sexted and ended with only 2 males which is really good. I have entered into flowering and they are coming along well. There is some "taco-ing" and curling of the upper leaves of some of the plants. Any ideas on what would be causing this would be great help.

Yesterday I gave them a tea consisting of 2 gal of water, 3 cups of compost, 1 cup of worm castings, 1/2 tbs fish emulsion, 1/2 tbs unsulfered blackstrap mollasses, 1/2 tbs kelp meal, 1/3 cup powdered baby oatmeal, and inocculated mycorrhizae fungus.

So here are the plants right at 5 weeks of flowering. Unfortunately do to having to move out of my current house at the end of the month I will be harvesting next week.

Anyway, I appreciate everyones input and help this has been a great learning experience for me and hopefully I will be doing another grow soon.

Next time I can fix a lot of the mistakes from this grow and will be able to do a much better job.

Thanks Again,

Leaf