My first grow

mared juwan

mared juwan

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Fackin' awesome dude. Your seedlings are more healthy than my most recent ones were. Actually they're probably more healthy than any seedlings I've ever had. I suck at veg. Only suggestion I would have is to spin the plants 180 degrees once in a while. Looks like that one closest to the camera and on the right in the last pic is starting to curve towards the light. I hate when that happens when they are young because unless you plan on some LST or scrog stuff then your plant won't stand up very straight because there's a big turn in the stalk at the bottom. I currently have a Cheese in flower like this and it is causing all kinds of problems. I had to tie it up and have it cinched tight in all four directions because it wants to topple over in any direction that is unsupported.

I see plenty of frost on the finished buds in your pics. I think it is just because they are so hairy it is harder to see. And yea the cure makes it a lot better. Uncured buds make me sneeze when I smoke them. You know how you get that peppery tickle in your nose?

How long you gonna veg the bigger ones for? Those look like some monster booshes. Thanks for the pics bro, looks great.
 
Jerry Garcia

Jerry Garcia

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mared juwan said:
Fackin' awesome dude. Your seedlings are more healthy than my most recent ones were. Actually they're probably more healthy than any seedlings I've ever had. I suck at veg. Only suggestion I would have is to spin the plants 180 degrees once in a while. Looks like that one closest to the camera and on the right in the last pic is starting to curve towards the light. I hate when that happens when they are young because unless you plan on some LST or scrog stuff then your plant won't stand up very straight because there's a big turn in the stalk at the bottom. I currently have a Cheese in flower like this and it is causing all kinds of problems. I had to tie it up and have it cinched tight in all four directions because it wants to topple over in any direction that is unsupported.

I see plenty of frost on the finished buds in your pics. I think it is just because they are so hairy it is harder to see. And yea the cure makes it a lot better. Uncured buds make me sneeze when I smoke them. You know how you get that peppery tickle in your nose?

How long you gonna veg the bigger ones for? Those look like some monster booshes. Thanks for the pics bro, looks great.
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Thanks Mared. I gave a couple of the girls a turn a few days ago...I think I might have missed the PPP though. I'll probably move them around too, just to get more even lighting.

I don't know what I'm going to do with those bushes. I've only got one plant in flower at the moment, and I'm not running the hps, only the 2 t5's and a 65w cfl. The plant is the top from one of the others...it's about 8 inches tall and nothing spectacular. I might just toss it and shut down the flower room for a month and let the others veg away. I can't seem to bring myself to just kill a healthy plant though...maybe I'll try to stick it outside somewhere...

I'm going to veg the blue cheeses and ppp for at least another month, probably two because I'm gonna top them. And that way I can be flowering at the end of summer/early fall when the temps aren't in the mid-90's every day.
 
Jerry Garcia

Jerry Garcia

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Hey guys and gals. I've started a new journal to chronicle the life and times of my Blue Cheese, PPP, and Thai Super Skunk, as well as the four topped bagseed plants that are about one moth old. The link to the new journal is Blue Cheese, PPP, Thai SS...Jerry's Second Grow.

I would like to extend a heartfelt THANKS to everyone who helped or followed along with my first grow. Who knows what my end result would be without you all. Bong hits for all bongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmilie!

So please follow the link and subscribe to my new journal!
 
Babs34

Babs34

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:o:o:oThrow away clones of PPP??? I'm dying here. You do know I would love to have them, yes?
Quick question---that Hot Shot "stuff" for gnats (forget the name)---I noticed in one of your pictures way back that you used it. I know the stuff is supposed to last for 4 months. It also says not to use it an occupied place. I'm assuming you occupy the space in which it sits.....so, big question is---I take it it's not "that" dangerous? No hair falling out or throwing up? In other words, nothing to worry about using it?
 
Jerry Garcia

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Babs34 said:
:o:o:oThrow away clones of PPP??? I'm dying here. You do know I would love to have them, yes?
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Who said anything about throwing away clones? Did I...?

And yes, I do know you would love to have some...I remember you saying how awesome it was I got one as a freebie...

Babs34 said:
Quick question---that Hot Shot "stuff" for gnats (forget the name)---I noticed in one of your pictures way back that you used it. I know the stuff is supposed to last for 4 months. It also says not to use it an occupied place. I'm assuming you occupy the space in which it sits.....so, big question is---I take it it's not "that" dangerous? No hair falling out or throwing up? In other words, nothing to worry about using it?
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Nope, I seem to be alive and kicking still...though I wouldn't say I really "occupy" the space. It's in the closet in my bathroom, and usually the door to the bathroom is left open for air flow, so I'm probably sitting 15' from it now.

To be honest, I'm not sure they are even doing anything. I've seen gnats flying around with one of those things 4" from the plants. But really my gnat problem has all but disappeared...I am diligent about keeping a layer of sand on top of all the plants and it really works. I still see one buzzing around from time to time, but if they can't get in the soil to lay their eggs they don't last long.
 
Babs34

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Post # 522---...it's about 8 inches tall and nothing spectacular. I might just toss it and shut down the flower room for a month and let the others veg away. I can't seem to bring myself to just kill a healthy plant though...maybe I'll try to stick it outside somewhere...
LOL, why do you think I even have those friggen gnats to begin with? I have a passion to clone every living thing (plant wise)---because I am constantly cloning so many plants, I am obviously bringing in those "things." They are demons from hell as far as I am concerned.
I swore off the Hot Shot because it stated very clearly not to use in an occupied space. My grow space is always occupied. I'm still weary......no lil room behind my shower.
I really HATE using the sand, although I do.
I'm just so, SO SICK of this never ending cycle of killing the lil bastards off. Every two to three days, I take at LEAST an hour or more to scrutinize under my magnifying glass the leaves........and somehow, those freaks of nature have somehow managed to lay yet even MORE eggs. I'm getting kind of demented when killing these things, ya know?
As for the clone, I clone off less than a quarter of an inch. I even cloned off a damn leaf once, LOL. I LOVE TO CLONE.:bigjoint:
 
mared juwan

mared juwan

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Babs34 said:
I even cloned off a damn leaf once:bigjoint:
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HUH?!?!?!?!? Please explain more. I've been following another thread for a couple months now where there has been HEATED debate over this. One guy started the thread claiming he could clone an entire new plant from ONLY a fan leaf. After three pages of people saying he was full of sh*t people started to try it for themselves. I even tried it just for kicks. The leaf will root, no doubt about it, but I don't see where the new growth will come from. The leaf has roots and stays green but never grows. So please explain more. You must have at least one growth site on there, right?
 
Jerry Garcia

Jerry Garcia

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Babs34 said:
Post # 522---...it's about 8 inches tall and nothing spectacular. I might just toss it and shut down the flower room for a month and let the others veg away. I can't seem to bring myself to just kill a healthy plant though...maybe I'll try to stick it outside somewhere...
LOL, why do you think I even have those friggen gnats to begin with? I have a passion to clone every living thing (plant wise)---because I am constantly cloning so many plants, I am obviously bringing in those "things." They are demons from hell as far as I am concerned.
I swore off the Hot Shot because it stated very clearly not to use in an occupied space. My grow space is always occupied. I'm still weary......no lil room behind my shower.
I really HATE using the sand, although I do.
I'm just so, SO SICK of this never ending cycle of killing the lil bastards off. Every two to three days, I take at LEAST an hour or more to scrutinize under my magnifying glass the leaves........and somehow, those freaks of nature have somehow managed to lay yet even MORE eggs. I'm getting kind of demented when killing these things, ya know?
As for the clone, I clone off less than a quarter of an inch. I even cloned off a damn leaf once, LOL. I LOVE TO CLONE.:bigjoint:
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I realize where the confusion came from now. That cloned plant I was considering tossing is the top from one of the 4 bagseed plants I have growing, not the PPP.

mared juwan said:
HUH?!?!?!?!? Please explain more. I've been following another thread for a couple months now where there has been HEATED debate over this. One guy started the thread claiming he could clone an entire new plant from ONLY a fan leaf. After three pages of people saying he was full of sh*t people started to try it for themselves. I even tried it just for kicks. The leaf will root, no doubt about it, but I don't see where the new growth will come from. The leaf has roots and stays green but never grows. So please explain more. You must have at least one growth site on there, right?
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I've heard and seen some fan leaves actually start budding from the part of the leaf that holds the blades together. Not sure if this has anything to do with the ability to clone a leaf, but I too am interested to hear more about this Babs...
 
Babs34

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Jerry Garcia said:
I realize where the confusion came from now. That cloned plant I was considering tossing is the top from one of the 4 bagseed plants I have growing, not the PPP.



I've heard and seen some fan leaves actually start budding from the part of the leaf that holds the blades together. Not sure if this has anything to do with the ability to clone a leaf, but I too am interested to hear more about this Babs...
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"huge sigh of relief"......I just couldn't imagine even a leaf being dumped to the garbage can.........yes, they can be cloned....a mere leaf.
"Alas"......it aint simple.
Quite simply, it takes the ultimate "touch."
It must be babied to the hilt.

I will try to upload a picture of my cloned leaf. The picture is from several weeks ago......it is now 26" tall. I just put it into flower 3 days ago.
I have a "theory" that the longer it goes into veg, the more potent it is......I'll get back to you on that.
 
Babs34

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Babs34 said:
"huge sigh of relief"......I just couldn't imagine even a leaf being dumped to the garbage can.........yes, they can be cloned....a mere leaf.
"Alas"......it aint simple.
Quite simply, it takes the ultimate "touch."
It must be babied to the hilt.

I will try to upload a picture of my cloned leaf. The picture is from several weeks ago......it is now 26" tall. I just put it into flower 3 days ago.
I have a "theory" that the longer it goes into veg, the more potent it is......I'll get back to you on that.
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........ok, hope this works. This is a few weeks after cloning the leaf. I was going to make it a bonzai, but instead decided to make it a coco grow. As I already stated, it's at 26" 3 days into flower now.
 

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mared juwan said:
HUH?!?!?!?!? Please explain more. I've been following another thread for a couple months now where there has been HEATED debate over this. One guy started the thread claiming he could clone an entire new plant from ONLY a fan leaf. After three pages of people saying he was full of sh*t people started to try it for themselves. I even tried it just for kicks. The leaf will root, no doubt about it, but I don't see where the new growth will come from. The leaf has roots and stays green but never grows. So please explain more. You must have at least one growth site on there, right?
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LOL, I sure am glad I am not in that heated debate. It just is what it is....my experiment. I figured, why shouldn't it clone from the genetics of a leaf? Granted, it took awhile to "take off"....but it did. Take into consideration that I work from home and have the green thumb from hell. When I baby my plants, I don't joke around....they get my full attention. In short, it was a leaf, nothing more.....no other growth. Sorry, I didn't take pictures from beginning to end....I only have short term access to a camera.
 
Jerry Garcia

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Babs34 said:
LOL, I sure am glad I am not in that heated debate. It just is what it is....my experiment. I figured, why shouldn't it clone from the genetics of a leaf? Granted, it took awhile to "take off"....but it did. Take into consideration that I work from home and have the green thumb from hell. When I baby my plants, I don't joke around....they get my full attention. In short, it was a leaf, nothing more.....no other growth. Sorry, I didn't take pictures from beginning to end....I only have short term access to a camera.
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So did the leaf actually grow into a full plant? Or did it just stay alive as a leaf with roots?

I'm confused...
 
mared juwan

mared juwan

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Looks like a full plant in the picture. So where does it start growing from? The place where all the leaves connect like Jerry said? I know that every single cell of the plant contains all the gene information needed to create a whole new plant, but I'm not sure how the leaf could "know" that there is no growth tip and it needs to create its own. Does it take a really long time? I gave up on my leaf after about three weeks. It was still green though.
 
mared juwan

mared juwan

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Holy crap, I shoulda checked that other thread before I came here to talk about it LOL. It seems there has been a development. Someone posted the pic I have attached. It shows a budsite in the middle of a fanleaf. This is exactly what I was wondering about. If someone had rooted this particular leaf while it was in veg then I can totally see it working. Now I would like to know if this is possible only with certain strains that are genetically prone to doing this (is it a mutation?) or can all strains do this? Here is the thread if you want to see for yourself. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/60994-cloning-fan-leaves-12.html
 
Babs34

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OK, now that I have officially confused you both....allow me to clarify. Mared, I peeked into that link "cloning from a fan leaf"......

This is NOT what I cloned. My leaf was much, MUCH smaller. It was connected to a stem, yet the stem was less than a quarter of an inch. For all practical purposes, it really was just a fan leaf. But yes, there was a stem, a very small stem, connected to that very small fan leaf.
It's times like these when I am dying for a camera. I'm getting ready to do it again. I just clipped something almost identical to what I cloned before.
Imagine a stem (less than 1/4") with a VERY new fan leaf attached at the base of that stem.
I don't recommend cloning this way. It does take forever for it to take off and grow into what even looks like a "normal clone." I just did it to see what would happen.
Oh...and the fan leaf with the bud, I've seen that one other time.......wild, I don't get it. It has definitely never happened to me before.
 
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