My first grow! Updated daily. 400 watt Ebb and Flow - White Berry

doogleef

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:mrgreen::mrgreen::hump::hump:

I just placed my first order from Attitude and purchased my tent and 400hps ligh and cooltube on Ebay!!!

I am so psyched! I have been doing research preparing for this day for months!
 

doogleef

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I will be itemizing everything I spent so the incoming newbies can get a good idea of what it really costs to run a small op.

So far:
$5 timer - Home Depot
$4 18g reservoir - Home Depot
$12 4pk 23W daylight CFL ( for vegging moms) - Lowes
$6 Hygrometer for temp and humidity with high/low memory - Walmart
$8 Fan 9" - Lowes
$215 400hps with cooltube - HTG Supply
$99 36"x20"x62" grow tent - Ebay

Still to get:

Pots (5-6")
Aquarium water pump
Hoses
Aquarium air pump
Bubble stone
Tub for ebb/flow
Ebb/Flow fittings
Nutrients
H2O2 - 35%
Testing equipment
1.5" Rockwool cubes
Grow medium (Clay Pebbles or Higromite, I have not decided)
Exhast Fan
Carbon filter if needed - I am growing a berry so I may be able to control the odor with ONA for less $
Tubs to make MOM chamber for vegging
Seedling Heat Mat
Cloning Gel
Soil (for moms)


It is off to the garden nursery tomorrow. They have a nice little hydro section in the back with good prices. :)
 

Hydrokronics

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Nice Bro, Things sound good. i would get the round air stones if you can. The cheap ones that are completly made out of the air stone material tend to break down in the nutes. You def want to get the best one you can. It makes a huge difference. Post some pics if you can ;) GL
 

doogleef

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Hey Hydro,

Thanks for stopping by. I will look for the round stone. Thanks for the tip. Rep+. I would take a pic or two but all I have so far is equipment. Pretty boring. I will be posting LOTS of pics once my girls are up and dancing. :blsmoke:

I went to the garden center today and acquired some more supplies. :hump:

Higromite - $25
5 1/2' net pots x18 - $.75 ( I know that the net pots are not necessary in an ebb/flow but I could not find the exact right size of the normal ones. The tub I will be getting for my table is 36"x16.5" and I wanted to stuff as many SOG clones in there as I could. 18 :mrgreen:)
Rockwool starter cubes - $9
Water pump - $7
Fox Farm soil (for Moms) - $12

Still a few things to get. I will post the list in a few. More soon ....
 

doogleef

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Still to get:

Hoses
Aquarium air pump
Bubble stone
Tub for ebb/flow
Ebb/Flow fittings
Nutrients
H2O2 - 35%
Testing equipment - PH
Exhast Fan
Carbon filter if needed - I am growing a berry so I may be able to control the odor with ONA for less $
Tubs to make MOM chamber for vegging
Seedling Heat Mat
Cloning Gel
:roll::roll:

Hydro is expensive and I have not even got nutes yet:cuss:.
Oh well. It will save me money in the long run. Right now i'm pretty sure I pay most of my dealer's rent :lol:
 

doogleef

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Supplies******

TDS meter pen - Ebay - $15 shipped

This is just a temp one. I really want one of the nice ones but budget won't allow it with the things still left to get for the grow.
 

Hydrokronics

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haha nice pic. Things are sounding like they are coming together :) you should take some pics of everything beore you put it together. not to post but just for you. it is pretty crazy when you look back on things like tht after you get a few harvests ;) Also you said you got a tds pen but did you get ph pen? you can find one cheap aswell and it will make a huge difference. I also went with the cheaper pens and wish i hadnt. I have to calibrate them constantly because they start to give false readings. :( I would also like to get a good tester but they are very expensive and who knows if they will be any more reliable. keep it up bro! GL
Pe@ce
 

doogleef

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haha nice pic. Things are sounding like they are coming together :) you should take some pics of everything beore you put it together. not to post but just for you. it is pretty crazy when you look back on things like tht after you get a few harvests ;) Also you said you got a tds pen but did you get ph pen? you can find one cheap aswell and it will make a huge difference. I also went with the cheaper pens and wish i hadnt. I have to calibrate them constantly because they start to give false readings. :( I would also like to get a good tester but they are very expensive and who knows if they will be any more reliable. keep it up bro! GL
Pe@ce
Hey hydro. No PH testing equip yet. I will probably go with the cheapo strips to start with. I hope to be able to afford a good tds/ph meter by the time I actually get going good. I will be raising moms for a few weeks and then a couple more weeks to wait for clones to root before i really need it to be precise.

How often do you calibrate your pen?
 

doogleef

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Supplies **********

Seedling Heat Mat - $20 shipped - Ebay

I hope to have my seeds by the end of the week!!!!
:mrgreen:bongsmilie:eyesmoke:


P.S. Everyone is free to post. Kinda boring so far but just wait :lol:
 

Hydrokronics

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Hey hydro. No PH testing equip yet. I will probably go with the cheapo strips to start with. I hope to be able to afford a good tds/ph meter by the time I actually get going good. I will be raising moms for a few weeks and then a couple more weeks to wait for clones to root before i really need it to be precise.

How often do you calibrate your pen?

i should be calibrating them atleast every other day but i dont. and it makes a dif.By you post i am assuming you will be using soil first. As soon as you start hydro I would def get a ph meter. it is soo important you kep the ph constant and dont let it go to high or to low. I have seen nute solution shoot up to 7.5 when the air stone is added. you are gonna have to dip those strips over and over and over to make things right.
 

growinman

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I am with Hydrokronics on just about everything he said!:hump:
Get some pics of what you got now(even if just for yourself) because you will be amazed at what you'll have in no time........and you will laugh at so much that you have and do now..... I kick myself in the ass for not having done that all along-------cause I forget half of everything as it is:eyesmoke:

Same thing with the meters........they're not nearly as important in soil but completely necessary in hydro---and you'll regret it if you go cheap because they're less accurate and more work and replacing the electrode things are 80% of the cost if you screw them up + they do wear out(they all do, I think).

I am by no means a pro at this shit! Just happened on here and will follow your thread(daily updates, huh.......:mrgreen:)

Great Luck to you!!! Have fun too and be safe!

growinman:joint::bigjoint:
 

SOMEBEECH

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Imo,dont even waste your money on the strips.I did and its a joke.I have the oakton PH and PPM,with replacement electrode paid about 150 usd for both.Im not gonna ever usem agin as im back to soil.You need to calibrate often i did every week.PH is very important in hydro you can lock out certain nutes causing deffiencies lol early dont know if i spelled it right.Good luck with the grow.I dont know if a temp gage for your solution was in the list But i advise you get 1.
 

doogleef

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Growinman and Somebeech - Thanks for stopping by guys! I will heed your advice and not get the strips. I am going to the pet store a little later and I will get a PH pen and some calibration stuff. As long as I can use the pens to limp along until next month I will get a nice one. :hump:

I do have a temp/humidity gauge with a high/low memory. I will post a few pics of all my equipment whn my tent and light get here in the mail. Should be in the next couple days!:clap::clap:

More supplies coming soon to a thread near you!
 

doogleef

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Supplies ********

Tub for flood table - 16.5"x34.5"x6" - 41 Quart

This tub will fit 17 of my 5.5" net pots and still leave room for the ebb/flow fittings. That means that even a very poor yield of 10 grams per SOG plant gives me 170g every 8-9 weeks. That should almost keep me in smoke. :hump: If I get .5g gram per watt and harvest 200 perpetually I am set and my supplier is screwed:twisted:
 

dindy

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hey check out my journal in the link in my signature...im currently growing white berry and would be interested to see how yours turns out compared to mine i will be using ebb and flow and already have 20 others going on ebb and drip system....check it oujr and let me know what you think...also get some pics on so i can check out your setup...happy growing!!!
 

doogleef

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Here is the tub I got with the pots in it. I am wondering if I should add medium in between the netpots (very little room) or if the roots will be ok given the tight space. Hmmmm:confused:

Off to do some research .... l8


EDIT: Crappy pic I know. Camera phone. Will use real camera next time. :P
 

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puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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Im just a newb at growing but my common sense tells me you should fill in the area between the pots so that you dont have to much nutes in your Flood table. Just something i was thinking...Again i could be wrong
 
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