My first grow help!!

odogg420

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250w Sunburst MH/HPS (eye Hortilux Metal Ace 250w conversion) with the attachable Sunburst fan and Lens
20 Gallon tote (Bubbleponics) 8 gallon res. (Advanced Nutrients by there schedule)
GrowLab GL80 2'7"x2'7"x5'11

My question is how big could I get my plant, it is exactly 3'4" from top of tote to bottom of hood, how close could I get the light to the plant before I start to burn? Or would it be best to top them? Thank You
 

GRiMCreeper

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i would stay 12 inches away at the least....put your hand under the light and move it up towards the light until you can feel the heat....im no expert, but if you only have 3' 4" to the light from the tote, im thinking maybe you would want to start the 12/12 flowering cycle at 12" tall...or 12" or so above the tote just to make sure you dont run out of room...some plants will double in size during the flowering process so you need to allow for it to gain some height during the 8-10 weeks that it needs to finish
 

Devildog93

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i would stay 12 inches away at the least....put your hand under the light and move it up towards the light until you can feel the heat....im no expert, but if you only have 3' 4" to the light from the tote, im thinking maybe you would want to start the 12/12 flowering cycle at 12" tall...or 12" or so above the tote just to make sure you dont run out of room...some plants will double in size during the flowering process so you need to allow for it to gain some height during the 8-10 weeks that it needs to finish
I might add a little to this if you don't mind. As far as testing heat for light burn. I put my hand palm down at plant top. If I hold my hand there for 30 seconds or more and I feel heat but NOT discomfort the lights are good, OR you can move the lights lower and try the test again. This method has worked well for me, but just remember, plants can really sprout suddenly in early flowering, if you go as close as you can, it can be a double edged sword if you are not dilligent in checking the "burn" height daily, especially the first two to three weeks of flowering.

The reason I do the palm down instead of up is I work with my hands lots, and my palms are less sensitive than the backs. Too much callous and scar tissue on my palms. If you have sissy hands then it doesn't matter.....lol.

As far as topping, I think I would suggest Uncle Bens' topping method (depending on how far along you are already....you want to catch it early for this to work fully) You could go with topping and side training/tying down as well, especially if too late for Uncle Bens' method. If you only have one plant, I would suggest trying to absolutely maximize your yield from that plant.
But side training and topping could work, you just might want to add a week or two, or even more if needed, to the veg time to maximize any changes you make.

Good luck
 

clift709

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Here's my setup I'm going to get a small tote 10-12 gallons will give me a little more space
Nice setup! Since this is your first grow just be prepared for your plant to double in size. Some strains don't stretch at all, but most do and most will gain 150% + when put into a 12/12 light cycle. You've got 3 feet 4 inches, so I'd say shoot to go 12/12 when your plant hits about 8-12 inches. The reason for that is because you have a 250W HPS and you'll be better off keeping the plant as short as possible to get best growth. It'll still be 2 feet when you're done, hope this helped :-)
 

odogg420

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So you think the tote is fine to use? Should I do another pod (make it three)? How much would I be able to yield off a 2' plant?
 

odogg420

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picked up 10 gallon tote re arranged the light a bit so I'm at 3'8" now the way I look at it is I'll get 4" more yield now hopefully
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