My first class with the golden teacher

yep smells like sweet vomit or baby diarrhea. you get the idea, its not the natural appealing fruit smell that mushrooms normally have.

ok so I was starting a casing procedure and I broke up the myc. by hitting the jar against a bike tire and it went from looking like the jar on the left to looking like (and being) the jar on the right.
After breaking it up there is myc on every kernel but not like the solid mass that had colonized the outside. So are my jars fully colonized? Are they ready to be cased?

I asked cando about that and he said give it one day and case. I do kno the myc will bounce back though. But better let him chime in. I am fruiting directly out of my quart jars this time.

yes now pour it and mix it with sub and incubate the finished results.

Yup. It is in fact colonized properly.

This is just how spawn looks when broken up.

I can not think of a species that, after being shaken, results
in particularly fuzzy result. They all take on more of a plain
grain look.

Onward and upward,

JD

thank you for the quick replies everyone. yeah I was/ have been bugging out a bit on that. Casing away .... again thanks everybody

technical dan said:

ok so I was starting a casing procedure and I broke up the myc. by hitting the jar against a bike tire and it went from looking like the jar on the left to looking like (and being) the jar on the right. View attachment 2618367
After breaking it up there is myc on every kernel but not like the solid mass that had colonized the outside. So are my jars fully colonized? Are they ready to be cased?

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Looks good - maybe. I don't know when you posted this, perhaps you see growth again and if you do fine, but look closely at the picture and you see what MIGHT be a wet sort of outline between one of the kernels and the glass - pay heed to this, it is, (if that is really what I am seeing and not some sort of reflectin), then you have a bacterial infection. It is called wet spot and one of the sure ways you can tell (other than the smell - of rotten apples), is a wet looking outline between the glass and individual kernels.


If you shake, then you have no need for concern about the insides of the jars, you know that if you see 100 percent white covering all the kernels you see, then it will indeed be covering all the kernels you can't see either.

those pics were taken this morning. Yes there was water in the jars the amount of liquid fluctuates with temperatures and it was present in both of those jars. There was no water in the third jar (not pictured). After ending up with excess water in the first two I added some verm before PCing the third (it was also inco'ed with MS myc on agar rather than an MS syringe). All of the jars had an earthish mushroomy smell when opened and after being emptied.

If there was a problem with that jar, then bacteria will be the cause.

If when you spawn it, it smells mushroomy, then you will know that it was good.

Impossible to be certain, especially remotely.

Good luck,

JD

technical dan said:

those pics were taken this morning. Yes there was water in the jars the amount of liquid fluctuates with temperatures and it was present in both of those jars. There was no water in the third jar (not pictured). After ending up with excess water in the first two I added some verm before PCing the third (it was also inco'ed with MS myc on agar rather than an MS syringe). All of the jars had an earthish mushroomy smell when opened and after being emptied.

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this bacteria will make even a dryish jar or bag look wet. If you smelled this stuff you would know there was something wrong. It is not a pleasant smell.

polyarcturus said:

yep smells like sweet vomit or baby diarrhea. you get the idea, its not the natural appealing fruit smell that mushrooms normally have.

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canndo said:

this bacteria will make even a dryish jar or bag look wet. If you smelled this stuff you would know there was something wrong. It is not a pleasant smell.

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and it looks like slime in there when you shake it.

im going to give growing some shrooms for the first time next winter! looks fairly easy with an awesome reward

MagikNinja said:

im going to give growing some shrooms for the first time next winter! looks fairly easy with an awesome reward

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good luck with the "fairly easy" part. but it is rewarding.

Bring the patience of a ninja too.

:0)

It is a very fun hobby. Good luck.

JD

haha patience is a virtue i definatly have
nothing about it looks all that hard but honestly right now im just speculating. ill find out at the end of the year!

I wouldn't say any of its is really "hard". Time consuming some times very much so. Meticulous with the cleaning and certain procedures absolutely. Difficult to actually do the various tasks.....I don't think so much.

lol what in this world isn't time consuming and meticulous these days?

well round 2 seems to be a flop.....threw away 8 trays with contam, had a sour smell.

have 4 more trays that seems to be alright but borderline. Im debating just chucking them and waiting for the 14 jars of corn i have now to finish colonizing.

next round im not doing any straw or bulk sub, 50/50 vermiculite/sub 3 days to recover then fruiting. nothing should contam the vermiculite and if my mycelium is strong oon my sub it should recover well in just a day or 2. this is the method i have had sucess with so im going to stick with it.

sucks matt, but itll just improve from there/ now right

I am going to put my cased tray into fruiting conditions today or tomorrow. Going to case a rye jar in a pot and then a larger pot will be its FC as my little terrarium will be full. And a little agar work should start up round two. I already have some jars PCed and waiting several rye and one corn, I will prob switch to corn/ go buy more corn the next time I load jars.

I am going to have contam pretty quickly with these two casings as I ended up getting my temps to high during prep so there was deff. a partial sterilization rather than a proper pasteurization......... figured that one out after reading more after I had cased. Well knowledge for next time ..... which will prob be next week this time I'll listen to the tek, put the lid on and shut off the damn burner n move the pot and leave it alone.

I have 6 jars looking like this. Casing is anywhere between 75-95% colonized, fruiting directly out of quart mason jar, fae 3-4 times a day with 10-12 hours of light per day and dropped temps 5-10 degrees? Also using a ziplock bag for high humidity. Any ideas when a pinset will begin? I started fruiting 3 days ago