my clones have tons of roots but the leaves are stunted and/or mutated

My clones are growing monstrous roots (some as long as my forearm). They have been vegging for about a week now however some are growing mutated looking leaves or super tiny leaves. The leaves are green and lush though.

What Im doing:

1) DWC - hydro tanks
2) RO water
3) Myco Madness (normal dose)
4) FF Grow Big 1/4th dose
5) FF Open Sesame 1/4th dose
6) PH set to 5.8
7) clones are roughly 1-4 inches tall atm

Im curious if the leaves are growing like this because they need full strength nutes...OR maybe they are stunted right now because they are giving most of the energy into root growth. Or maybe its something else altogether.... My clones really had a rough time getting rooted because I used crap technique and conditions (some took over 2 wees to pop roots and many of the leaves and growth spurts were yellow and wilted and dried but most made it... albeit really weakened on the verge of death).

Please advise
T

no one knows what this means eh?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Work with us here. lol

Yarp... picture for sure. what kind of lights are you using? Temps? Res Temps? Have you had any stress or erratic lighting?

Did the clones perk up after rooting, grow normal leaves, then start growing malformed leaves? or did the malformed leaves start directly after rooting??

pictures pictures pictures...

thatdjsnow said:

Yarp... picture for sure. what kind of lights are you using? Temps? Res Temps? Have you had any stress or erratic lighting?

Did the clones perk up after rooting, grow normal leaves, then start growing malformed leaves? or did the malformed leaves start directly after rooting??

pictures pictures pictures...

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*no camera in my grow area I cant take pics*

1) the clones were VERY stressed. I really botched the job up. they went a like 4-5 days with no spraying just sitting in a humidity dome and I totally fucked up the stems (I scraped off all the outer parts of the stems way too much so that the very inner stem was exposed).

2) I did a lot of emergency work to save these things (recut a lot of the clone stems and redipped in rooting hormone and bought some clone growing solution and started spraying them regularly and most of them rooted.

3) So now they are starting to grow and I think the mutated leaves are just from being stressed like hell during the cloning process...

4) the new leaves on all the clones are perky and lush green in color. Some of the clones have leaves that are SUPER tiny. Some of the clones with larger leaves are just mutated (but still healthy looking in color and perkiness). Then some of the clones look 100% great. I think it was a stress thing... but not sure as this is my 1st grow...

5) I have them under a T5 Flouro 4 bulb lamp.

please advise
T

Well after stress like that plants will often send out malformed leaves, or leaves with only 1-3 blades when the older leaves have 5-7.... it should clear up in a few days to a week if this is the case.

If not, then you may have Molybdenum deficiency.. but I doubt it.

ahh ok thanks for the heads up.. also can you tell me how I know when these babies are ready for full on nutes and to go under my ceramic metal hallide veg light?

If they have roots as you say and they have handled the nutes you have given them so far, I'd say full strength would be fine.

I'd say give them the nutes full strength and put them under the MH once it has been a week under the T5s



Oh, and are you adjusting your nute levels to accommodate for the RO water?

Upon further review I think you definitely have a Molybdenum def.... FF doesn't have any in it, and RO water removes it... I thought the Myco stuff was to compensate for that - but then I checked it out and it's not.

ugh... im using their complete hydro line (all 6 products)... i thought it was a well rounded nute system

if none of their products have it then wouldnt every single plant grown with these products have this same deficiency? doesnt make sense to me how they can have this line of products soley designed to make healthy plants yet they are missing something critical

What do you recommend to remedy this?
-T

I've no idea - and to be honest, we can't be sure without pics. I myself grow with soil so defs in the micronutrient areas are less common.

Try looking in the "plant problem" part of the forum and compare pics with what your plants look like to be sure. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688 also has some pics and advice for plant problems.

Once you're sure it's the problem, the cure shouldn't be hard to find.

still nada? no pics? no camera phone?? lol