My Bombastic Aerogarden Closet Fungasm/Growjournal

MrAlex

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Probably just someone who felt like chiming in to hate on AG nute tabs.


I don't really get what some people have against them, they aren't going to kill the plant, they aren't the best thing out there but they sure as hell aren't as bad as some people cut them out to be.

Yeah... its weird that people say that. I've never had an issue. And If I do... I'll get foxfarm nutes..lol
 

lurkmaster

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Yeah... its weird that people say that. I've never had an issue. And If I do... I'll get foxfarm nutes..lol
I was smoking and talking with a friend of mine and he was like 'dude dont use the AG nutes omg!' and I was like uh.. how do you even know what those are...? :eyesmoke:
 

MrAlex

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comin along. when i flushed and added new water yesterday i used tiger bloom and big bloom instead of the grow big. they aren't quite to the stretching part of flowering yet so ima keep boosting those nuggs. when the res runs low (depending on what the plants are doing) ill add the grow big and big bloom. and raise the lights a bit. so far i havent taken the AG hood off. what do you guys use to suspend the light?
any way, day off so ill porbly be bongsmilie and on here all day. :peace:
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I just suspended my hood yesterday.. I went to home depot and bought some metal link chain... about 5 bux worth a couple of S hooks. Then I rigged it onto the hood and tied the chains up above the AG.. I cant really explain it but I'll take some pix and post them....
 

MrAlex

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looks fucking good man. which part of home depot did you grab those in. im gunna do the same thing!
:hump:

Hardware section.... near all the door knobs and shit...lol GOOD LUCK!

I was pretty high so i could be wrong...

I must have been a fuckin site.. High as motherfucker.. buying 4 giant 150w CFLS.. some chain... S hooks.. and a spray bottle... lol

Im surprised they didnt call the cops on me. lol
 

sirsativa

Active Member
Hardware section.... near all the door knobs and shit...lol GOOD LUCK!

I was pretty high so i could be wrong...

I must have been a fuckin site.. High as motherfucker.. buying 4 giant 150w CFLS.. some chain... S hooks.. and a spray bottle... lol

Im surprised they didnt call the cops on me. lol
HAHAHAHA! yes.
 

sirsativa

Active Member
my ph wont stop dropping. how do you guys add ph up or down. i feel like when the water in my res is low im just dripping it on the roots. i cant wait for my digi ph and ppm meter gets there. the plants are lookin baaaaaaaaad tho. suck.


almost all the leaves on this plant look like this now






the bottom leaves although not spotting as much as the leaves on the cola are yellowing and dying


plant on the other side of the res. didnt start out as bad as the first but now is




the middle plant and the last to see the spots seems to be doing better than the other two. i dont get it.


the hash plant clone doesnt really seem to be affected either


HELP!?
 

MrAlex

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Fuck dude... did you try flushin the rez and runnin it with no nutes...

I always ad the Ph Down stuff to the pre-mixed gallon... before I put it in the rez...

Are you using tap water?

I realized the only water that had a reasonale pH was fuckin Poland Springs... it seems to work. I usually add about 10 drops per gallon + 1.5 AG Nute Tab..
I know you use the FF nutes but its an option.....

Also...
Maybe somebody more experienced will hurry up and give some other suggestions...

Good Luck Bro..... Hopefully it settles down soon...
 

lurkmaster

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The buds that are forming look nice despite the leaf discoloration.

IDK about pH dropping on its on in the AG though... might be the amount of plant waste in your res or some nutrient buildup.

I have noticed that when I change my res water theres all of this kind of gunky shit at the bottom, sometimes if I let nutrients sit in my res for a few mins with water they just settle to the bottom on their own, I just give it a good mix up with a big spoon until it looks homogenous again. (using FF nutes, grow big HYDRO)

I usually throw 13-14 drops of pH down in every gallon right when I open it, give it a few good shakes and let it sit out so the pH equalizes with all the new goodies.

If you KNOW what your pH is in your AG you can put drops directly in there, I did it all the time and nothing has happened to my plants.

pH down is more of an issue than pH up is, pH down can be an irritant, pH up is pretty much harmless compared to pH down.



Also, the slow drip when there is no water is fine, thats a true 'aeroponic' system, the roots just get a little dribble of nutrients all down the roots, instead of having a pool of water to grow down into.
 

lurkmaster

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Hardware section.... near all the door knobs and shit...lol GOOD LUCK!

I was pretty high so i could be wrong...

I must have been a fuckin site.. High as motherfucker.. buying 4 giant 150w CFLS.. some chain... S hooks.. and a spray bottle... lol

Im surprised they didnt call the cops on me. lol
Yea man I have made so many late night trips to walmart at like 1:00-2:00 in the morning, blazed as shit to buy light bulbs, duct tape and water lol.
 

"SICC"

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normally when you start adding adding nutes, the pH drops, jus add some pH up everyday, you have to checc it normally anyways, there not even that bad man haha, its all good, easily fixable, not a big problem man, there lookin great
 

lurkmaster

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Really? I almost never check my pH, I only check it when I load my nutrients up, then I check it again the next day and I just leave it alone after that.
 

"SICC"

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Well from what i have read, it cause the pH to drop, even after the tabs, the pH drops, and in many threads, thats is what seems to happen, but before nutes, the pH always rises, I've experienced it in this grow, after i noticed it, it all made sence
 

sirsativa

Active Member
flushing yesterday and today. i cant tell if they are looking worse or the same. yea thankfully the buds dont seem to be affected. the pictures dont really do them justice. they look terrible. hella chickenpox. and now the leaves that i didnt cut yesterday are dying from the pox. gunna keep the flush going for another day or so. i cant wait for my meter's to get here. ive got some hygrozyme coming too. my roots are a little brown. i think the plant that i cut roots are slowly decaying. causing all kinds of problems. they are still alive! for now at least. and if they should kick off soon my buddy has fresh cutting's of hash plant and skunk #1 that will be ready in a few weeks.
poor plants. almost all the leaves on them are affected now, and even if my issues stop. the spotty leaves wont recover. plus im out of smoke and have to work all day. :cry:
 

sirsativa

Active Member
i really dont know what to do. im flushing with PHed water. have been for at least 24 hrs now. the PH still seems to be dropping. i added some up. they are getting worse. ill keep posting pics untill i figure it out, or they kick the bucket. for some reason my stupid camera wont focus so sometimes they dont look as bad as they actually are. the spots are spreading and starting to crispify leaves left and right. sigh. FRUSTRATING!





this was yesterday afternoon. the leaves at the top that are still green arent anymore.




its hard to tell but all the leaves are spotting faintly.


wtf



all the leaves on the bottom look like this now.


i really cant figure this out. i dont know what else to try. im hoping that someone can help diagnose before they die.
 

lurkmaster

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I don't think its killing your plant, but that really doesn't look like any of the general nutrient deficiency/temp/pH problems.

What is your humidity at?

You might want to try foliar feeding on a plant or two to see if that gets rid of the crispyness.

Do I have Bad Room Syndrome?

Contributed by: snoofer
Thanks to: bhangman
Submitted: January 15th, 2005

The cause of inexplicable poor plant health and vigour may be a result of BRS.

Indoor air quality is lower than fresh outside air. Homes are filled with materials designed to resist fading, abrasion and time. Many of these materials emit toxic vapours at a low to very low concentration into the air.

Fresh paint / lead paint or solder / sealer, old or new carpet, flooring and other room fixtures may emit toxic vapours. These vapours are harmful to both plants and humans.

Newly installed flooring (especially fresh carpet) or wall panelling will often emit strong vapours for several weeks. The grower should vent the room thoroughly, remove the problem, or remove the plants.

(bhangman) The heat from HID lighting can cause linoleum to emit vapours

Grow rooms should (ideally) have most furniture and flooring removed prior to setting up. Inspect the corners of the room and closets for green or black mold. Occassionally, mold and mildew exists in the ducting. If possible, seal the central heating ducts.

Rooms with stagnant air are the most susceptible. Vapours will build up during 'lights off' when ventilation is low or off. Continuous or periodic ventilation will reduce the fumes considerably.

Other potential problems include: using 'non-fish-safe' silicone, pvc in irrigation, lead solder in old home plumbing, rotting insulation / asbestos, and fusarium wilt.

Note: given the numer of possible causes of poor plant health, growers should check all factors throughly. Pre-testing a room with houseplants might be a good precaution.
The only other thing it could possibly be is Mg def.

Your roots are definitely tangled so you can't isolate one plant and try to epsom salt it to see if that fixes it.

The pH dropping might be a sign, if they have nothing but pH'd water.

Definitely make a post in the sick plant forum and see if someone can shine some light on this.
 

MrAlex

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Yea man I have made so many late night trips to walmart at like 1:00-2:00 in the morning, blazed as shit to buy light bulbs, duct tape and water lol.

LMAO! Im fuckin rollin overhere... Im baked and just had a visual.

LOL Oh shit!!! I gotta go pick up my girl from work.... these fuckin threads!!
 
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