My Bi-Polar/Cannabis experience, share yours.

Nexus Polaris

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Anyone im here pi polar manic use cannabis? I dont mean the average person with mood swings, I mean the poeple who have lost touch with reality, spiritual expirences, enlightenment, shit like that. I deal with my bi polar mania every day and I also use cannabis everyday, it has been a wild ride, just wanted to see if anyone else have similar expirences before I posted everything about mine just to see if there are some other crazy's out there other than me.
 

Stoney McFried

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Don't worry, there are!I have severe clinical depression.Cannabis helps a lot.I have some other problems, but I usually control myself quite well.I hate therapists,so there's no way I'm going to one...prozac helps me, but if I take it all the time, I feel nothing.A dose of cannabis seems to almost burn out the part of my brain responsible for my problem.And no side effects.:bigjoint:
 

Nexus Polaris

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I got myself off all my meds to try and work with it myself, so far I have done an "ok" job, but for the past year I have been through what I call my "metamorphasis" period, through extreme times of paranoia and almost uncontrolable voilent moods, to a much more enlightened and peaceful being. I think my experiences with lossing touch with reality and looking at it from a non medical issue and tranforming it into something entirely different have made me a very unique person. Not saying that people need to stop taking their meds, but looking at it as an essetial part of my life and not a horrific time has made life at times unbearable, but for the most part, a beautiful experience. Cannabis has played a huge role in this process.
 

Stoney McFried

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Meds can help....but I think it's a good idea to prepare yourself to be strong for times when the meds aren't available, as you've been doing.Good luck.
I got myself off all my meds to try and work with it myself, so far I have done an "ok" job, but for the past year I have been through what I call my "metamorphasis" period, through extreme times of paranoia and almost uncontrolable voilent moods, to a much more enlightened and peaceful being. I think my experiences with lossing touch with reality and looking at it from a non medical issue and tranforming it into something entirely different have made me a very unique person. Not saying that people need to stop taking their meds, but looking at it as an essetial part of my life and not a horrific time has made life at times unbearable, but for the most part, a beautiful experience. Cannabis has played a huge role in this process.
 

trippymonkey

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Yes. I'm bipolar and stopped taking my mood stabilizer about two years ago. I just smoke and haven't had an episode in I don't know how long. I'm sure I've got one coming..
 

chuckbane

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I think marijuana can be used for any type of psychological/mental abnormality. You just have to know how to use your mind right.
 

sarah22

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i have borderline personality disorder...and im really resistant to the meds they give me...but toking makes me feel as close to normal as i've felt in a very very long time...lol. i take just one med now for anxiety and the weed helps with everything else...i get some pretty crazy episodes too...but never when mary jane's got my back :)
 

trippymonkey

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i have borderline personality disorder...and im really resistant to the meds they give me...but toking makes me feel as close to normal as i've felt in a very very long time...lol. i take just one med now for anxiety and the weed helps with everything else...i get some pretty crazy episodes too...but never when mary jane's got my back :)
Yeah they don't even truly know how to treat Borderline Personality Disorder, not to mention a lot of psychologists doubt whether it's an actual disorder, so I'd say keep on smoking and find your own fix!
 

Big P

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yes im close to people that are bipolar and i recommend to take your meds rather than start flipping out on your loved ones.
 

mierm

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i'm bipolar, on both an antidepressant and a mood stabilizer. I'm also a self proclaimed pothead! I've been dealing with my disease for years, only seeming to manage it this past year, while self medicating on Marijuana. I have noticed that my anxiety level has severely dropped, also my "manic" episodes have drasticly been reduced.
 

Seamaiden

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yes im close to people that are bipolar and i recommend to take your meds rather than start flipping out on your loved ones.
I agree. Though, some meds can make a person feel just awful, so I understand why they wouldn't want to take them if they can help it at all.

So, does the cannabis really do anything for your manic episodes? (directed to the op and those who are bipolar) Those are just as scary to see as the down times, at least from my perspective

I want to say something because of what was probably not an ill-intentioned post, but it touched on something I feel is important. Mental illness is an illness as much as cancer or diabetes or high blood calcium or... People who suffer have often very real physiological problems with the brain, which is itself a very physical thing. I don't mean to hack about it, but it does rub me the wrong way when I get the inference that "it's all in your head", which implies it can be controlled if you have enough willpower. I feel that this further exacerbates the problem we have, specifically in the U.S., with the serious lack of empathy for those who have mental illnesses.

This is why I so strongly encourage people to read Vilayanur Ramachandran, a brain researcher who's made some amazing discoveries about us. :)
 

Stoney McFried

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It was probably my post which made you feel that way.I personally have had severe clinical depression coupled with genereal nuttiness, as I like to call it, all my life.While it is a chemical condition, the brain is an extremely malleable organ,capable of much more than is currently known.You can force your brain to "rewire" itself.But it takes a lot.If you can't exist without your meds(I'm speaking to everyone)then don't.I personally know what I fight with every day,and I know if I can do it so can you.I really have no choice.I have no health insurance.And quite frankly, I don't want to be a zombie.I do have a habit of showing contempt for folks who put their crazy on display for attention's sake,such as some of the folks who post quatrains and schizo bs on here.If you have a real mental issue, I truly do empathize.But I've always been good at sensing when the issue is being magnified for vanity.And it drives me absolutely MAD.So if I came off as unsympathetic to any folks in this thread, it wasn't my intention.I was just stating from my own experience.Your brain is a powerful tool.
I agree. Though, some meds can make a person feel just awful, so I understand why they wouldn't want to take them if they can help it at all.

So, does the cannabis really do anything for your manic episodes? (directed to the op and those who are bipolar) Those are just as scary to see as the down times, at least from my perspective

I want to say something because of what was probably not an ill-intentioned post, but it touched on something I feel is important. Mental illness is an illness as much as cancer or diabetes or high blood calcium or... People who suffer have often very real physiological problems with the brain, which is itself a very physical thing. I don't mean to hack about it, but it does rub me the wrong way when I get the inference that "it's all in your head", which implies it can be controlled if you have enough willpower. I feel that this further exacerbates the problem we have, specifically in the U.S., with the serious lack of empathy for those who have mental illnesses.

This is why I so strongly encourage people to read Vilayanur Ramachandran, a brain researcher who's made some amazing discoveries about us. :)
 

trippymonkey

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I agree. Though, some meds can make a person feel just awful, so I understand why they wouldn't want to take them if they can help it at all.

So, does the cannabis really do anything for your manic episodes? (directed to the op and those who are bipolar) Those are just as scary to see as the down times, at least from my perspective

I want to say something because of what was probably not an ill-intentioned post, but it touched on something I feel is important. Mental illness is an illness as much as cancer or diabetes or high blood calcium or... People who suffer have often very real physiological problems with the brain, which is itself a very physical thing. I don't mean to hack about it, but it does rub me the wrong way when I get the inference that "it's all in your head", which implies it can be controlled if you have enough willpower. I feel that this further exacerbates the problem we have, specifically in the U.S., with the serious lack of empathy for those who have mental illnesses.

This is why I so strongly encourage people to read Vilayanur Ramachandran, a brain researcher who's made some amazing discoveries about us. :)
Great post! I wonder if we will ever get rid of the stigma of mental illness. Mental disorders are as real as any other disorder like diabetes and cancer. We can prove that things like Schizophrenia are real, as people who suffer from the negative symptoms lose brain matter from the disorder. Their ventricles just keep getting bigger and bigger and we have no cure for this.
 

Seamaiden

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Thanks, I'm glad to know that you agree.
But wait! There's more. Did you know that children who have suffered serious abuse have differing brain structures, and that these differences affect mood, stability, and the ability to learn and retain that information? In other words, it can make children stupid and crazy. And it can be seen via imaging, the differences in structure.

Did you know that the folds and creases in the brain increase with knowledge and learning (increases surface area without requiring the brain becomes larger)? That MR people have smoother brains than those who are of normal intelligence?

Did you know that there are specific structures in the brain that are different between homosexuals and heterosexuals?

Did you know that epiphanetic events can be artificially stimulated?

None of these can be controlled by the individual, certainly not yet anyway.

I think it's very important that all of us work to remove the stigma of ANY mental illness. Even just feeling down and maybe needing to talk to someone is frowned upon and joked about. People with very real illnesses are, in this country, treated as though they are of full faculties and control, and if commit a crime are sentenced as such. This is one arena where Great Britain is HEAD AND SHOULDERS above us in the U.S.

Remember Andrea Yates? How many here would LOVE to just fucking burn her at the stake? Yet, how many are actually familiar with her form of mental illness, which was made so much worse for her post-partum psychosis (there is post-partum depression, which is to psychosis what a tornado warning is to a watch)? How many have any empathy for the crazy person? How many were happy that Dahmer met the end he did? He knew he was crazy and wanted to die, so.. ok, but still. He was mentally very unwell, how can that be held against him?
It was probably my post which made you feel that way.
Nope! I just don't want the person to feel called out or attacked or anything is all. ;)
I personally have had severe clinical depression coupled with genereal nuttiness, as I like to call it, all my life.While it is a chemical condition, the brain is an extremely malleable organ,capable of much more than is currently known.You can force your brain to "rewire" itself.But it takes a lot.
Um.. I'm open to hear more about what you mean by that. I know of specific instances and situations, but these are rooted in physical health (amputees, phantom limb syndrome, for instance).
If you can't exist without your meds(I'm speaking to everyone)then don't.I personally know what I fight with every day,and I know if I can do it so can you.
I disagree with that. I've known too many people who, because of their illness, are unable to function at all without their meds. It's one reason why we have the kind of homeless population we do.
I really have no choice.I have no health insurance.And quite frankly, I don't want to be a zombie.I do have a habit of showing contempt for folks who put their crazy on display for attention's sake,such as some of the folks who post quatrains and schizo bs on here.
Ah.. you saw PIMP's post, eh? Yeah.
If you have a real mental issue, I truly do empathize.But I've always been good at sensing when the issue is being magnified for vanity.And it drives me absolutely MAD.So if I came off as unsympathetic to any folks in this thread, it wasn't my intention.I was just stating from my own experience.Your brain is a powerful tool.
It is, but it is also subject to physiology and something as simple as a wee bit of chemistry can seriously, SERIOUSLY fuck it up. While I commend you for being able to handle your own issues as well as I think you do, I think it's wrong to tell others who can't that they can and should be able to. You do not experience what they experience, no two issues are exactly the same, and frankly, it's not your place (with all due respect), whether or not you also suffer from mental illness.

For instance, I can guarantee you that clinical depression is nothing like a multiple personality disorder, and only bipolar disorder can come close to the horror of schizophrenia, as the original poster indicates, it can lead to a complete break with reality. If a person is not in the here and now, how are they going to manipulate their own thought processes, moods, and stability?
 

trippymonkey

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Thanks, I'm glad to know that you agree.
But wait! There's more. Did you know that children who have suffered serious abuse have differing brain structures, and that these differences affect mood, stability, and the ability to learn and retain that information? In other words, it can make children stupid and crazy. And it can be seen via imaging, the differences in structure.

Did you know that the folds and creases in the brain increase with knowledge and learning (increases surface area without requiring the brain becomes larger)? That MR people have smoother brains than those who are of normal intelligence?

Did you know that there are specific structures in the brain that are different between homosexuals and heterosexuals?

Did you know that epiphanetic events can be artificially stimulated?

None of these can be controlled by the individual, certainly not yet anyway.

I think it's very important that all of us work to remove the stigma of ANY mental illness. Even just feeling down and maybe needing to talk to someone is frowned upon and joked about. People with very real illnesses are, in this country, treated as though they are of full faculties and control, and if commit a crime are sentenced as such. This is one arena where Great Britain is HEAD AND SHOULDERS above us in the U.S.

Remember Andrea Yates? How many here would LOVE to just fucking burn her at the stake? Yet, how many are actually familiar with her form of mental illness, which was made so much worse for her post-partum psychosis (there is post-partum depression, which is to psychosis what a tornado warning is to a watch)? How many have any empathy for the crazy person? How many were happy that Dahmer met the end he did? He knew he was crazy and wanted to die, so.. ok, but still. He was mentally very unwell, how can that be held against him?
Nope! I just don't want the person to feel called out or attacked or anything is all. ;)
Um.. I'm open to hear more about what you mean by that. I know of specific instances and situations, but these are rooted in physical health (amputees, phantom limb syndrome, for instance).
I disagree with that. I've known too many people who, because of their illness, are unable to function at all without their meds. It's one reason why we have the kind of homeless population we do.
Ah.. you saw PIMP's post, eh? Yeah.
It is, but it is also subject to physiology and something as simple as a wee bit of chemistry can seriously, SERIOUSLY fuck it up. While I commend you for being able to handle your own issues as well as I think you do, I think it's wrong to tell others who can't that they can and should be able to. You do not experience what they experience, no two issues are exactly the same, and frankly, it's not your place (with all due respect), whether or not you also suffer from mental illness.

For instance, I can guarantee you that clinical depression is nothing like a multiple personality disorder, and only bipolar disorder can come close to the horror of schizophrenia, as the original poster indicates, it can lead to a complete break with reality. If a person is not in the here and now, how are they going to manipulate their own thought processes, moods, and stability?

Excellent post! Are you a psych major by any chance, or just interested in these issues? Either way, I love seeing someone so informed! Great information.
 

Stoney McFried

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While you're right on many counts, I can only speak from my experience.I know several people who handle it alone.But don't get me wrong.I'm not anti pills.I'm anti side effects.And I do know that you can do a lot more than you think you can sometimes.Though I have several different problems, the most prevalent is the depression.Since I really don't feel like telling everyone exactly what goes on in my head, let me just say that when it comes to some of the other ailments you mentioned...yes, I certainly can speak with some authority.I certainly wasn't telling anyone what to do, however, I do think you need to prepare for times when medication may not be available.And so, since we disagree,apparently, I'll just leave it at that.:peace:
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, I think it's wrong to tell others who can't that they can and should be able to. You do not experience what they experience, no two issues are exactly the same, and frankly, it's not your place (with all due respect), whether or not you also suffer from mental illness.

For instance, I can guarantee you that clinical depression is nothing like a multiple personality disorder, and only bipolar disorder can come close to the horror of schizophrenia, as the original poster indicates, it can lead to a complete break with reality. If a person is not in the here and now, how are they going to manipulate their own thought processes, moods, and stability?
 

Seamaiden

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Stoney, I don't disagree with you at all about side effects, as I'd mentioned those issues are a big reason why so many seriously ill people stop their meds. That and the old, "I'm much better now, so I don't need no stinkin' pills!" syndrome.

We do disagree about how controllable certain issues are, though. I am brought to think of an old, dear friend of mine who died some years ago. He was a liver transplantee, and he counseled me after my work injury about how you can use your mind to help control your pain. He suffered terribly as a transplantee. And, in many regards he was right, but ultimately, he was wrong. Because what brought about his death was an episode of running out of his anti-rejection drugs and going through a couple of days of rejection, I cannot imagine the pain. After that he told everyone that the next time it happened he was going to let it go all the way, he could not handle the pain anymore. He could only control so much mentally, you see?
Excellent post! Are you a psych major by any chance, or just interested in these issues? Either way, I love seeing someone so informed! Great information.
Not a psych major, though my counselors tried to get me to go in that direction. I'm just fascinated with people, have been exposed to a LOT since a young child, and think that it's gotta be incredibly hard to have a real mental illness and actually open up about it. I've also tried to read as much as I can on subjects that interest me. My folks are also both health care professionals, and on my dad's side there is one hell of a history of serious mental illness.

And! Both my boys were special needs kids (one a Touretter, the other a high functioning autistic).
 

Stoney McFried

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I agree with ya there.But all I'm saying is, your mind can be a big help in the fight.
Stoney, I don't disagree with you at all about side effects, as I'd mentioned those issues are a big reason why so many seriously ill people stop their meds. That and the old, "I'm much better now, so I don't need no stinkin' pills!" syndrome.

We do disagree about how controllable certain issues are, though. I am brought to think of an old, dear friend of mine who died some years ago. He was a liver transplantee, and he counseled me after my work injury about how you can use your mind to help control your pain. He suffered terribly as a transplantee. And, in many regards he was right, but ultimately, he was wrong. Because what brought about his death was an episode of running out of his anti-rejection drugs and going through a couple of days of rejection, I cannot imagine the pain. After that he told everyone that the next time it happened he was going to let it go all the way, he could not handle the pain anymore. He could only control so much mentally, you see?

Not a psych major, though my counselors tried to get me to go in that direction. I'm just fascinated with people, have been exposed to a LOT since a young child, and think that it's gotta be incredibly hard to have a real mental illness and actually open up about it. I've also tried to read as much as I can on subjects that interest me. My folks are also both health care professionals, and on my dad's side there is one hell of a history of serious mental illness.

And! Both my boys were special needs kids (one a Touretter, the other a high functioning autistic).
 
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