I have given up on the liberty haze, im just going to trim it as it is. Its not growing any bud, just a bunch of thin leafs. If it somehow ends up being worth a fuck, i still have some clones but i doubt it.
I will also be retiring the ice. The buds are just too leafy and its flavorless and smokes like mids. It had amild cool, refreshing scent to italmost like menthol but not minty which i liked but it was just too week.
I still got the papaya growing seeds. Every now and then i pop one out to see if they are ready but nope, not yet. A few weeks after they seeded and i pulled the male, the buds swelled and pistils receeded, then nothing changed for a while but now they are throwing out fresh white pistils, i'm not sure if this is normal or if itmight have revegged or ssomething.