Morality of the Bridge Card

ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Shannon Alexander said:
Ginjawarrior it would be ok for everybody to do that the moment that you no longer wish to have a security net there for the people that need it...

I've got nothing against the guy that is doing it however, If he truly is going around and helping people than the positive effects that should in theory continue on because of it should in my mind surely pay off for the 200 a month in food and the mobile phone... If he was just living in a tent in a forest somewhere reading books or doing nothing then taking the benefits might seem wrong, but some people do need a break from the world and some of them more than others...
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the value added to the random persons house that he helped restyle makes up for the money from tax payer? I'd understand more if it was a community centre.

The safety net is needed and people like him are perfect ammo for the people who want that net removed
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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I really don't know, i am not him. It seems as if he is completely fine accepting the help, and returning it as best as he knows how. I guess it would seem as if im siding with him, but if you knew him i think you may change your mind as well. Not that it is morally correct, but that he is doing his best to make it so. I don't know if this bridge card/cell phone is something that you can have forever, so im not sure if he is going to be using it forever, im sure he will for as long as he can, but its only been a year i think.

Maybe im just jealous that i didn't take advantage of the same opportunity, maybe im jealous because i don't want to give away my car/tv's/computers/playstation/xbox etc. etc. and he can. Ive grown dependent on this type of lifestyle. I guess when i look at him, i wish i could do the very same thing, and not be so attached to the system. I guess its as far away from the system as you can be, while still being able to live in it. I envy him, i wish i had the courage, and the determination, he is so happy all the time... i know he accepts help, but the help he gives me and everyone else i know is enough for him to continue living life without regret, which some people have an extremely hard time doing.

If i knew he was lazy, selfish, malignant, hateful, cruel, etc. i would see this completely different... but he isn't any one of those things, the complete opposite in fact.

As hard as it is for me to say this through my envy, i admire him.
 
Dislexicmidget2021

Dislexicmidget2021

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I can honestly say I get a sense of envy after reading about your friends lifestyle choice,I think its awesome that he would do such a thing and be happy.Hell, as far as the food stamps and cell phone go,thats totaly understandable,gotta eat and communicate!Hey im a taxpayer and ya know what ,I would be glad to give to a person such as him.Whether it be moral or not dosent seem to be a question to me at all.
 
BustinScales510

BustinScales510

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I dont see anything wrong with it. $200 isnt a sum that is fully supporting a person. It sounds like he still does plenty to pull his weight, and that the assistance that he does get is a small supplement at most. I certainly dont think he is nursing off the taxpayers money anymore than a politician who was born wealthy ,yet still takes advantage of government pensions and health insurance for the duration of their life.
 
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Wordz

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he really needs to stop robbing the government. this is typical communist take from the many to provide for the few type situation. If this guy would stop stealing from the government the whole economy would probably turn around in a month. How can live in this country and steal from the government. Doesn't he realize the government loves him and needs him to produce. We will never take over the world with this damn hippies running around sucking out our last bit of extra money in this country. How am I supposed to create more jobs when he in the end steals money straight from my pocket.l
 
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Wordz

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[video=youtube_share;w9NmgcAKW0w]http://youtu.be/w9NmgcAKW0w[/video]

dolla dolla bill ya'll. These people are equal no debating that.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Zaehet Strife said:
"I have a best friend, he is the nicest person i know. He's been working since he was 16 and is now almost 27. A year and a half ago he gave away almost all of his possessions, including his car to me. He bought a bicycle, and has been riding around the country experiencing the epitome of what most of us call freedom. As living a life like this, i understand that it requires very little money to live. Wherever he goes he helps people, and he is never a burden. He stayed about 4 days with my girlfriend and I and we had an amazing time, he is one of the best people that i know.

But there is a problem i am trying to deal with, and im not sure if what he is doing is right, or wrong. He always does his best to make sure that he isn't taking advantage of anyone.. accept there is one thing, he has a bridge card. He filed for (homeless) and technically he is, but he gets 200 dollars a month for food. I understand that he contributed to this for 10 years when he worked a government job and paid taxes, but is this not still taking advantage of other people? He also has a government cell phone and gets 250 minutes a month.

I am having a hard time understanding, because he wants to base his life upon freedom, not taking advantage of anyone and helping everyone he meets. Yet, is he not taking advantage of millions of people because of the cell phone and food that he does not have to pay for?"

Any and all ideas are welcome here, and i appreciate all input. It would be nice if the name calling would be left at a minimal.
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Well, everyone with an income pays taxes. He buys you food? That's a couple dollars you spent being spent in a way you approve of, I'm sure. You said in one of the other posts that he helps people for free quite often. Provided those people pay taxes, I'd say you can call it even. It's not like he's truly being a drain on society. He is inarguably misapplying resources, but not in a harmful way, it seems. There is one exception I see. If there's only so many slots open to get those cards, and he is keeping it from someone who truly needed it, then I would take issue.
 
ml07kaup

ml07kaup

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Zaehet Strife said:
I really don't know, i am not him. It seems as if he is completely fine accepting the help, and returning it as best as he knows how. I guess it would seem as if im siding with him, but if you knew him i think you may change your mind as well. Not that it is morally correct, but that he is doing his best to make it so. I don't know if this bridge card/cell phone is something that you can have forever, so im not sure if he is going to be using it forever, im sure he will for as long as he can, but its only been a year i think.

Maybe im just jealous that i didn't take advantage of the same opportunity, maybe im jealous because i don't want to give away my car/tv's/computers/playstation/xbox etc. etc. and he can. Ive grown dependent on this type of lifestyle. I guess when i look at him, i wish i could do the very same thing, and not be so attached to the system. I guess its as far away from the system as you can be, while still being able to live in it. I envy him, i wish i had the courage, and the determination, he is so happy all the time... i know he accepts help, but the help he gives me and everyone else i know is enough for him to continue living life without regret, which some people have an extremely hard time doing.

If i knew he was lazy, selfish, malignant, hateful, cruel, etc. i would see this completely different... but he isn't any one of those things, the complete opposite in fact.

As hard as it is for me to say this through my envy, i admire him.
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Love transcends all physical limits my friend, You have felt your friends love that is why something as infinitesimal as envy stands no chance. I commend your bravery for facing the truth.
One love​
 
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