Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Genetically Engineered Cannabis yes or no?


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Harrekin

Well-Known Member
I like that.

The farmers not only had a contract, they had help, instructions, the Co. Ag Dept is helping. And there was only one real instruction the farmer had to follow.

This thing is loaded (you just signed) Do NOT point it at your head. We will be FORCED to sue if you blow your law brains out.
Well my point was more a company can only provide a product/service and enforce contracts.

If someone willingly chooses to use an unlicensed product/service it's their fault, not the company's and it is the company's legal duty to make money for the shareholders (which involves protecting patents).

Monsanto is just a company, they sell seeds on contract, if someone breaks the contract that's their doing its not the company's fault for "being evil" as RETARDprotection keeps trying to say.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Well my point was more a company can only provide a product/service and enforce contracts.

If someone willingly chooses to use an unlicensed product/service it's their fault, not the company's and it is the company's legal duty to make money for the shareholders (which involves protecting patents).

Monsanto is just a company, they sell seeds on contract, if someone breaks the contract that's their doing its not the company's fault for "being evil" as RETARDprotection keeps trying to say.
NUH UHH!!

this copy/paste proves that Monsanto sues farmers over windblown pollen and makes deadly GMO's that will poison your family and destroy the planet!

heres more proof!

http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/chinese/confucius/analects.htm

entirely specious excerpt from 100% irrelevant link:

The Master "Is it not pleasant to learn with a constant perseverance
and application?
"Is it not delightful to have friends coming from distant quarters?
"Is he not a man of complete virtue, who feels no discomposure
though men may take no note of him?"
The philosopher Yu said, "They are few who, being filial and
fraternal, are fond of offending against their superiors. There have
been none, who, not liking to offend against their superiors, have
been fond of stirring up confusion.
"The superior man bends his attention to what is radical. That being
established, all practical courses naturally grow up. Filial piety and
fraternal submission,-are they not the root of all benevolent
actions?"
The Master said, "Fine words and an insinuating appearance are
seldom associated with true virtue."
The philosopher Tsang said, "I daily examine myself on three
points:-whether, in transacting business for others, I may have been
not faithful;-whether, in intercourse with friends, I may have been
not sincere;-whether I may have not mastered and practiced the
instructions of my teacher."
The Master said, "To rule a country of a thousand chariots, there
must be reverent attention to business, and sincerity; economy in
expenditure, and love for men; and the employment of the people at the
proper seasons."
The Master said, "A youth, when at home, should be filial, and,
abroad, respectful to his elders. He should be earnest and truthful.
He should overflow in love to all, and cultivate the friendship of the
good. When he has time and opportunity, after the performance of these
things, he should employ them in polite studies."
Tsze-hsia said, "If a man withdraws his mind from the love of
beauty, and applies it as sincerely to the love of the virtuous; if,
in serving his parents, he can exert his utmost strength; if, in
serving his prince, he can devote his life; if, in his intercourse
with his friends, his words are sincere:-although men say that he
has not learned, I will certainly say that he has.
The Master said, "If the scholar be not grave, he will not call
forth any veneration, and his learning will not be solid.
"Hold faithfulness and sincerity as first principles.
"Have no friends not equal to yourself.
"When you have faults, do not fear to abandon them."
The philosopher Tsang said, "Let there be a careful attention to
perform the funeral rites to parents, and let them be followed when
long gone with the ceremonies of sacrifice;-then the virtue of the
people will resume its proper excellence."
Tsze-ch'in asked Tsze-kung saying, "When our master comes to any
country, he does not fail to learn all about its government. Does he
ask his information? or is it given to him?"
Tsze-kung said, "Our master is benign, upright, courteous,
temperate, and complaisant and thus he gets his information. The
master's mode of asking information,-is it not different from that
of other men?"
The Master said, "While a man's father is alive, look at the bent of
his will; when his father is dead, look at his conduct. If for three
years he does not alter from the way of his father, he may be called
filial."
The philosopher Yu said, "In practicing the rules of propriety, a
natural ease is to be prized. In the ways prescribed by the ancient
kings, this is the excellent quality, and in things small and great we
follow them.
"Yet it is not to be observed in all cases. If one, knowing how such
ease should be prized, manifests it, without regulating it by the
rules of propriety, this likewise is not to be done."
The philosopher Yu said, "When agreements are made according to what
is right, what is spoken can be made good. When respect is shown
according to what is proper, one keeps far from shame and disgrace.
When the parties upon whom a man leans are proper persons to be
intimate with, he can make them his guides and masters."
The Master said, "He who aims to be a man of complete virtue in
his food does not seek to gratify his appetite, nor in his dwelling
place does he seek the appliances of ease; he is earnest in what he is
doing, and careful in his speech; he frequents the company of men of
principle that he may be rectified:-such a person may be said indeed
to love to learn."
Tsze-kung said, "What do you pronounce concerning the poor man who
yet does not flatter, and the rich man who is not proud?" The Master
replied, "They will do; but they are not equal to him, who, though
poor, is yet cheerful, and to him, who, though rich, loves the rules
of propriety."
Tsze-kung replied, "It is said in the Book of Poetry, 'As you cut
and then file, as you carve and then polish.'-The meaning is the same,
I apprehend, as that which you have just expressed."
The Master said, "With one like Ts'ze, I can begin to talk about the
odes. I told him one point, and he knew its proper sequence."
The Master said, "I will not be afflicted at men's not knowing me; I
will be afflicted that I do not know men."
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
:spew:(better headline...lol):finger:;-)
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/05/13-3


Published on Monday, May 13, 2013 by Common Dreams Corporate Win: Supreme Court Says Monsanto Has 'Control Over Product of Life'


Indiana farmer must pay agribusiness giant $84,000 for patent infringement

(excerpt)
The Center for Food Safety released a report in February which shows three corporations control more than half of the global commercial seed market.
As a result, from 1995-2011 the average cost to plant 1 acre of soybeans rose 325%.
As AP
reports, more than 90 percent of American soybean farms use Monsanto's "Roundup Ready" seeds, which first came on the market in 1996.
Vandana Shiva, an expert on seed patents and their effects on farmers around the world,
wrote recently:
Monsanto’s concentrated control over the seed sector in India as well as across the world is very worrying. This is what connects farmers’ suicides in India to Monsanto vs Percy Schmeiser in Canada, to Monsanto vs Bowman in the US, and to farmers in Brazil suing Monsanto for $2.2 billion for unfair collection of royalty.
Through patents on seed, Monsanto has become the “Life Lord” of our planet, collecting rents for life’s renewal from farmers, the original breeders.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
:spew:(better headline...lol):finger:;-)
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/05/13-3


Published on Monday, May 13, 2013 by Common Dreams Corporate Win: Supreme Court Says Monsanto Has 'Control Over Product of Life'


Indiana farmer must pay agribusiness giant $84,000 for patent infringement

(excerpt)
The Center for Food Safety released a report in February which shows three corporations control more than half of the global commercial seed market.
As a result, from 1995-2011 the average cost to plant 1 acre of soybeans rose 325%.
As AP
reports, more than 90 percent of American soybean farms use Monsanto's "Roundup Ready" seeds, which first came on the market in 1996.
Vandana Shiva, an expert on seed patents and their effects on farmers around the world,
wrote recently:
Monsanto’s concentrated control over the seed sector in India as well as across the world is very worrying. This is what connects farmers’ suicides in India to Monsanto vs Percy Schmeiser in Canada, to Monsanto vs Bowman in the US, and to farmers in Brazil suing Monsanto for $2.2 billion for unfair collection of royalty.
Through patents on seed, Monsanto has become the “Life Lord” of our planet, collecting rents for life’s renewal from farmers, the original breeders.
Why do you want to deprive American farmers (indeed, the world's farmers) of a product that they overwhelmingly want?
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
Why do you want to deprive American farmers (indeed, the world's farmers) of a product that they overwhelmingly want?
OK dd I will respond this time, but don't get a bigger head over it because it most likely wont happen again :)
Wanting something isnt always enough dd...the world would be a very different place if everyone just got what they wanted...in fact I'm fairly certain we would all be dead if everyone got what they wanted.
Further, your wants should always be weighed against the needs of others...in this case to satisfy the wants of some we by design effect the abilities of all others.
Its not about stopping what some want, its more about stopping the want'ers from forcing the rest of us into a monoculture against our will etc...
Its not me forcing you dd, its you forcing me because at the end of the day you will chew and swallow what you want but I will have no choice but to chew and swallow that which I dont want...tis you and yours that are clearly the oppressors here, not the other way around ;)
 

tokeprep

Well-Known Member
OK dd I will respond this time, but don't get a bigger head over it because it most likely wont happen again :)
Wanting something isnt always enough dd...the world would be a very different place if everyone just got what they wanted...in fact I'm fairly certain we would all be dead if everyone got what they wanted.
Further, your wants should always be weighed against the needs of others...in this case to satisfy the wants of some we by design effect the abilities of all others.
Its not about stopping what some want, its more about stopping the want'ers from forcing the rest of us into a monoculture against our will etc...
Its not me forcing you dd, its you forcing me because at the end of the day you will chew and swallow what you want but I will have no choice but to chew and swallow that which I dont want...tis you and yours that are clearly the oppressors here, not the other way around ;)
The patent on the seed expires in 2014. Then no one will be subject to Monsanto's will.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
For context, GAYprotection is involved in the "organic" business.

Now you understand why he debates so hard against GM.

You can thank me later.
I would be very suprised if someone with this banner and with these views and with this commitment, was not involved in the Organic business. I never thought he was only concerned citizen.

But, it doesn't make him right or wrong....that in itself doesn't.

Oh, Hark about living on cannabis...I don't think you mean the medical pun. But, it's true. Many of us are living entirely on ganga.:)

I was looking for breakfast, lunch and dinner ganga food....we have snacks covered, obviously. I thought of Martha Steward and came up with this.

[h=1]Meet the Martha Stewart of Marijuana[/h] Cheryl Shuman was told she wouldn't live past her birthday when she battled Stage Four ovarian cancer. After a friend suggested she leave the hospital and use cannabis products for treatment, her cancer went into remission and she relied less on Western medicine.

Shuman's experience led her to become a medical marijuana advocate. Today, she shows Ricki Lake the latest cannabis products available for consumption by cancer patients.


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Harrekin

Well-Known Member
I would be very suprised if someone with this banner and with these views and with this commitment, was not involved in the Organic business. I never thought he was only concerned citizen.

But, it doesn't make him right or wrong....that in itself doesn't.

Oh, Hark about living on cannabis...I don't think you mean the medical pun. But, it's true. Many of us are living entirely on ganga.:)

I was looking for breakfast, lunch and dinner ganga food....we have snacks covered, obviously. I thought of Martha Steward and came up with this.

Meet the Martha Stewart of Marijuana

Cheryl Shuman was told she wouldn't live past her birthday when she battled Stage Four ovarian cancer. After a friend suggested she leave the hospital and use cannabis products for treatment, her cancer went into remission and she relied less on Western medicine.

Shuman's experience led her to become a medical marijuana advocate. Today, she shows Ricki Lake the latest cannabis products available for consumption by cancer patients.


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It explains his balls against the wall, yet, factless arguments pretty accurately.

And Doer I definately live on cannabis, it's just the sustinence part I wondered about.

I made one batch of butter that was AWESOME ("make you stare at the trippy sun through the blinds until you realise you're doing it" sort of strong), but regardless afterwards I just couldn't match it so I gave up.

Ill have to get some pointers and try again.

If you wanna talk full melt bubble, I can make that easily ;)
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Oh, I see....Maybe with some fish bits for protein? I am not aware of any natural mono-food.

The basics for life seem to be rice and protein....beans, even.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Oh, I see....Maybe with some fish bits for protein? I am not aware of any natural mono-food.

The basics for life seem to be rice and protein....beans, even.
hemp seeds do contain a fair amount of protein, carbs fats amino acids, etc...

nearly as much protein as soya, nearly as much carbohydrate energy as wheat, and nearly as much fatty oil as rape as well as the widest array of amino acids available outside a butcher's shop but trying to survive in the long term eating only cannabis would result in beri beri, scurvy rickets, and pretty much every disease resulting from a vitamin or mineral deficiency.

cannabis seeds as your sole food source would not work, and you would need lots of land to grow enough cannabis seed to fill your caloric needs, and still come up short on the nutrients. cannabis seeds are not a primary crop, they are a byproduct of fiber production. theres plenty of plants that make MUCH more seed/grain with much less plant, using much less land, and with much faster turnaround. if you really wanted a staple grain, quinoa is a better choice than cannabis. you could grow 4-5 crops of quinoa in a single spring-autumn cycle.

but quinoa is nasty.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
hemp seeds do contain a fair amount of protein, carbs fats amino acids, etc...

nearly as much protein as soya, nearly as much carbohydrate energy as wheat, and nearly as much fatty oil as rape as well as the widest array of amino acids available outside a butcher's shop but trying to survive in the long term eating only cannabis would result in beri beri, scurvy rickets, and pretty much every disease resulting from a vitamin or mineral deficiency.

cannabis seeds as your sole food source would not work, and you would need lots of land to grow enough cannabis seed to fill your caloric needs, and still come up short on the nutrients. cannabis seeds are not a primary crop, they are a byproduct of fiber production. theres plenty of plants that make MUCH more seed/grain with much less plant, using much less land, and with much faster turnaround. if you really wanted a staple grain, quinoa is a better choice than cannabis. you could grow 4-5 crops of quinoa in a single spring-autumn cycle.

but quinoa is nasty.
Yeah, but weed...
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
OK dd I will respond this time, but don't get a bigger head over it because it most likely wont happen again :)
Wanting something isnt always enough dd...the world would be a very different place if everyone just got what they wanted...in fact I'm fairly certain we would all be dead if everyone got what they wanted.
Further, your wants should always be weighed against the needs of others...in this case to satisfy the wants of some we by design effect the abilities of all others.
Its not about stopping what some want, its more about stopping the want'ers from forcing the rest of us into a monoculture against our will etc...
Its not me forcing you dd, its you forcing me because at the end of the day you will chew and swallow what you want but I will have no choice but to chew and swallow that which I dont want...tis you and yours that are clearly the oppressors here, not the other way around ;)
Don't worry, my head won't swell from your reply.

Speaking of your reply, that is the dumbest thinking I have been exposed to in a while.

Your "don't wants" are supposed to trump everybody else's "wants", and it is for their own good because they would all die if they got what they wanted. Sounds like you have a serious mental problem, my friend. Megalomania, God complex, something.

Carry on with this retarded topic, though.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I made one batch of butter that was AWESOME ("make you stare at the trippy sun through the blinds until you realise you're doing it" sort of strong), but regardless afterwards I just couldn't match it so I gave up.

Ill have to get some pointers and try again.

If you wanna talk full melt bubble, I can make that easily ;)
Noru yu speaka me rlangrig...:)
 
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