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Nutty sKunK

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One other thing... depending on where you live also depends on what lights you might want to use. In the winter I have to turn heaters on because the leds don't generate enough heat.
If you lived in an area that was very cold and for long periods of time I think maybe some double ended HPS lights would do the trick or just stick with some good Ole single ended bulbs.
Those do grow some sick buds and able to change out the HPS for metal halide the last 2 weeks to get that extra frosty look.
That’s me. Freezing here November - March.

Going to change my exhaust from being straight out the room to recycling some of the old air back. Help keep it warmer and more humid
 

56nitty

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Are you ever going to post a finished, fully ripe crop in your 4x8? 6+ pounds is something to brag about sure, but the size of your plants and buds are tiny for the yields you claim.

I run the same wattage, and same size flower area but harvest 3 pounds less with quadruple the size of plants and buds?

4.5 pounds, solid bud 30” deep, your plants don’t even look 30” tall. You must think we were born yesterday honestly

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you’re the fucking man. where did you get the lights & what’s the cost each
 

56nitty

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Hey there, I did something similar recently, ditched my old 1000w HPS in favor of a new LED full spectrum bar light that pulls either 600 or 640w from the wall (I forget which!). What I did was search out the manufacturers that produce the name brand LED bars for the US based middle men, and was able to find several on Alibaba. I ordered directly thru the manufacturer instead of the middle man, the only difference on the light is that it doesn't have their logo on it. The big difference? The price. The exact same lights are selling on Amazon for $600-1000+ all day. Mine is going for right around $1000. I paid $430 including shipping. It shipped to my house from Hong Kong in 3 days, less time than it takes for Amazon to ship some packages from inside my state. Product quality is on point. Blinding. My plants absolutely love it, and the savings on electricity and reduction in heat are a big plus too. Mine has the Samsung LM301B/H chips, and a meanwell driver. These are the more desirable options in these types of lights, as opposed to cheap light chips of lower quality. I love how evenly it distributes light across the entire 4x4' footprint of my tent. It would absolutely cover a 5x5' as well, and is advertised for that size. There was very little assembly involved, simply plug each bar in and you're up and running! It does produce some heat but nothing close to what the HPS put off! My friend runs more than 10 of these chained together, and his finished product is phenomenal. He has done very well on weight with these as well. I just flipped my 1st run under these to flower a few days ago, and so far everything is fantastic. I know there are some stigmas attached to certain sellers on Alibaba, but as long as you choose a reputable one that's been in business multiple years and has positive ratings, you should be in good shape. Also, choose one with multiple seller "badges". This is the avenue I went, and I have no doubt this post will be valuable information for others. I will attach a pic of the light running so you know I'm not just "blowing smoke" hope this points you in a helpful direction. Happy growing! ✌
$430 each bar?
 

jonnynobody

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Where’s the other pound and a half? Those are just baby plants, nowhere near your claims imo.
Dude I was thinking the same thing. I had plants packed wall to wall in a 12×16 last cycle. I hit 8.3#. And this cat is claiming 6.625# in a 4×8? Yeah. Okay. This is the kinda dude that goes to the casino for the weekend, wins $200, then tells all his facebook friends he hit it big for a few thousand. Whatever makes ya feel an inch taller I s'pose. Aside from the picture the second thing that screams bullshit to me is how he mentions his yield. Who the fuck have you ever known that grows weight and references their yield in ounces? Hold on man. Let me recalculate my harvest in ounces like the pros do it. I got 132 and 4/5 ounces :)
 

jonnynobody

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This man knows, their honestly not even expensive if you look around and dont get the scorpion. I fuck with this brand hard, and will prolly use them forever. Some dude plugged me with this knowledge and I share it every chance I get, if you use RIU10 at checkout you get 10 percent off.
Goto alibaba and save 50% off hlg. No stupid discount code required :)
 

jonnynobody

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Thanks. I will definitely be looking through that. That sounds insane. 9lbs in a 4x8, correct?

As someone with HiD background, where do I start to look at LED's? So much misinformation I'm not sure where to even look. 1000$ is a lot to invest in false promise, where I know HiD provides great results at a fraction of the overhead. Not bashing LED but just wondering where to get the right information to get myself on the right path.
Order a qb from Amazon. Fuck around with it. Send that bitch back in 30 days for a refund. Then you'll know exactly what LED lights are capable of without relying on internet strangers or shysty sales reps and their many false promises. Then when you're armed with your new found hands on experience you'll have a much better idea of what you really want to spend your money on without having lost a dime in the process. Order up a spider farmer sf4000. They're 450w which is close to an hlg 480w board. Free no risk product testing homie! I love abusing the generous return policy at Amazon. And so should you :)
 

race winslow

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You may want to take a look at the timber Fatty.
It's an American made light with top bin diodes and multiple drivers. You can customize your light spectrum to mimic an HpS if you desire. I've owned HLG Rspec lights and prefer these. I prefer cobs to boards. I'm not knocking boards or HLG. I found that I had better results with the Fatty. Please note that they are not as efficient as most boards. However, the difference is not that great.
I'll take effectiveness over efficiency any day of the week.
Gavita makes a decent light. However, I'd take the Fatty over the Gavita all day long.

 

Rebel71

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That’s me. Freezing here November - March.

Going to change my exhaust from being straight out the room to recycling some of the old air back. Help keep it warmer and more humid
Vivosun 6” 390 cfm with controller $60. On Amazon, now I have a back up, in case of failure
 

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V256.420

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Vivosun 6” 390 cfm with controller $60. On Amazon, now I have a back up, in case of failure
I like your fan/filter placement. The only thing I would suggest is getting a bigger filter. I always try to double the filter cfm capabilities over the fans cfm rating in a single pass. Especially when using them in tandem like that.

I also keep my fans on 24/7. If you are getting smell early in flower then you will need the bigger filter. Pic of mine

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I recently switched to LED from HPS and when I removed the hood the fan noise was twice as loud. So I bought a few duct silencers and stacked them all on top of each other. Much quieter now.

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Rebel71

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I like your fan/filter placement. The only thing I would suggest is getting a bigger filter. I always try to double the filter cfm capabilities over the fans cfm rating in a single pass. Especially when using them in tandem like that.

I also keep my fans on 24/7. If you are getting smell early in flower then you will need the bigger filter. Pic of mine

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I recently switched to LED from HPS and when I removed the hood the fan noise was twice as loud. So I bought a few duct silencers and stacked them all on top of each other. Much quieter now.

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Hey man, ty for information, I was wondering if I need a bigger filter, it smells all through my house. Gotta love that smell I do! Oh it’s so quiet,I have it in on the low setting, running 24/7. the isolating fan is way louder. I’m going to order the 6” filter
 

V256.420

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Hey man, ty for information, I was wondering if I need a bigger filter, it smells all through my house. Gotta love that smell I do! Oh it’s so quiet,I have it in on the low setting, running 24/7. the isolating fan is way louder. I’m going to order the 6” filter
I use an 8" Phresh filter rated @ 750 cfm. My fan is rated @ 440 cfm. With some loss I'm still probably pulling 375 to 400 cfm from my tents. This helps prevent the filter from failing too soon.
 

Rebel71

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I use an 8" Phresh filter rated @ 750 cfm. My fan is rated @ 440 cfm. With some loss I'm still probably pulling 375 to 400 cfm from my tents. This helps prevent the filter from failing too soon.
Damn brother I don’t think I need that much CFM blown in at 4 x 4 tent, I think my new 6” 390 cfm with controller is to much, plus I just the 6” filter and I have it at the lowest setting, no other fan needed, plus just changed my co2 can them babies is breathing
 

Rebel71

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I like your fan/filter placement. The only thing I would suggest is getting a bigger filter. I always try to double the filter cfm capabilities over the fans cfm rating in a single pass. Especially when using them in tandem like that.

I also keep my fans on 24/7. If you are getting smell early in flower then you will need the bigger filter. Pic of mine

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I recently switched to LED from HPS and when I removed the hood the fan noise was twice as loud. So I bought a few duct silencers and stacked them all on top of each other. Much quieter now.

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Ty man she is breathing way better! Who it was that suggested the 6” Vivosun 390 cfm! Awesome information ty
 

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FidelCa$hflow

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Good topic because I love fake shopping for LED lights on Amazon so it gives me a reason to do it. I like the suggestion of California light works above because I’m pretty sure that they make their lights here in the United States and typically the quality of such an item would be higher than that of an item made overseas but the price point is very high for those so you wanna know that you’re getting your moneys worth and not just paying for a name. Of course you want to max Out on your yield and your 4 x 4 or 5 x 5 space so probably 600 to 800 W of actual draw would be what you want. HOWEVER i bet that spiderfarmer se7000 is strong enough to give you fat buds from corner to corner in a 5x5
 

euphoria526

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If I had the $$$ AND a 5 x5 tent or area I’d get this:

Assembled and made in Texas.
customer support is amazing, I get really quick responses through Ig I can imagine they are pretty quick through emails. The growcraft series is modular ( if you lose a light bar you can just replace the bar, not the whole light)
 
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