Molly---MDMA-----A Different experience
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ndangerspecimen101
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What kind of "rolls" did you consume... maybe I could check to see if they are adulterated!
Their was some 2c-b pressed pills floating around the California area....
ndangerspecimen101
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Yes, the lethal dose is unknown. But if you read Pikhal more closely my friend you'll see that the people who consumed 100mg's or more by accident or intentionally thought they were dying... so I'm pretty sure you didn't take in excess of 100mg's...
How many times have you consumed mdma? Because consumption of large amounts of mdma...can indeed make you visualize stuff that isn't there. Read up on it bro....
For now its just a wonderful mystery
ndangerspecimen101
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If you were plagued by starvation after taking a capsule... then you thought what you perceived to by molly. Clean mdma wont' disturb your eating cycles or sleep. Oh the righteous decree of clean molly... its a privilege that many people are lacking!
Puffer Fish
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Brothers, I must add my two cents here.
First off ... a kit that you might buy/use .... is going to only test for content of MDMA .... so if it is cut with something else in the mix ....but also mdma ... you are going to get a color ... based on the reaction .... so if there is a little of molly .... it will give you that information but SO WHAT ?? You still do not know .... what the others are. So a testing kit as per the ones you get on line .... are good to measure concentration of mdma in a pill .... that is all.
Second, mdma does not smell like nail polish ....(at least not in it's pure form ... well the form I get it in ... lol) .... more like licorice. (at least to me)
Personally, from what you are saying .... I suspect you got yourself some MDA .... my brain hallucinates on that.
Ya, don't argue with shpej ... no we don't put him on a pedestal .... but we respect him for his knowledge cause he's been right on many occasions. (he tends to post when he knows ... and ask when he does not) and that is a wicked thing.
Yo NDA ... good to hear about your BRF's ... that is wicked.
I am playing with B+ and teachers ... they are doing their thing in the dark .... 9 days at 82 now, fuck I hate that waiting period.
Cheers
First off ... a kit that you might buy/use .... is going to only test for content of MDMA .... so if it is cut with something else in the mix ....but also mdma ... you are going to get a color ... based on the reaction .... so if there is a little of molly .... it will give you that information but SO WHAT ?? You still do not know .... what the others are. So a testing kit as per the ones you get on line .... are good to measure concentration of mdma in a pill .... that is all.
Second, mdma does not smell like nail polish ....(at least not in it's pure form ... well the form I get it in ... lol) .... more like licorice. (at least to me)
Personally, from what you are saying .... I suspect you got yourself some MDA .... my brain hallucinates on that.
Ya, don't argue with shpej ... no we don't put him on a pedestal .... but we respect him for his knowledge cause he's been right on many occasions. (he tends to post when he knows ... and ask when he does not) and that is a wicked thing.
Yo NDA ... good to hear about your BRF's ... that is wicked.
I am playing with B+ and teachers ... they are doing their thing in the dark .... 9 days at 82 now, fuck I hate that waiting period.
Cheers
Puffer makes a good point, it could very well of been MDA. its very close to the molecular structure of MDMA and so sometimes theres a byproduct of the stuff. its also way more hallucinogenic than MDMA.
NDA, im curious though, what rolls had 2c-b in them in california?? did you see any green aliens by any chance??
NDA, im curious though, what rolls had 2c-b in them in california?? did you see any green aliens by any chance??
I've hallucinated on pure MDMA before after eating about a gram over the course of a night. I had crazy, colorful moving patterns going across the walls and later on in the trip my arm hairs paired up into partners and started swing dancing. Crazy shit man, you can most certainly trip off too much MDMA.
ndangerspecimen101
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They are pills with the "Bee" logo. Very infamous press. Nothing but 2c-b and binder
The aliens are suppose to have a medium content of mdma and a small amount of ketamine! I've had the yellow, green, and purple aliens. Good rolls nonetheless....
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
2 drops of formaldehyde 40% to 3mL of concentrated sulfuric acid
(approximately) 1:30 Formaldehyde:Sulfuric Acid
You can test for a countless number of substances with a marquis reagent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_reagent
Puffer Fish
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Thank you ... shepj ... I have learned something today.
WOWgrow
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Just gonna chime in quickly, doesn't sound anything like Mephedrone or Methylone, neither of them have hallucinogenic qualities.
Can I ask, what is 2C-X ?
HeatlessBBQ
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so after a few months going by....
the molly that was first discussed in the first post WAS IN FACT cut with 2cb and sass.
if your living in denver and littleton area. bad shit is going around but there is also clean.
TEST YO SHIT
the molly that was first discussed in the first post WAS IN FACT cut with 2cb and sass.
if your living in denver and littleton area. bad shit is going around but there is also clean.
TEST YO SHIT
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
It is one of the most stupid terms known to man.. the reason being, depending on your location the substance at hand is different.
For example:
Sass (where I live) = MDA
Sass (where many of my friends live) = MDMA
Some MDMA is brown, and unless you have a set of test kits, they will not differentiate between MDA and MDMA (or MDEA for that matter).
Just a couple edits..
Sass refers to Sassafras, a type of foliage tree which contains Safrole and when ingested can cause feelings of euphoria and hallucinations in higher doses.
Pure MDMA should be a snowflakey white, with a possible yellow-tint. Anything else is most likely MDA or MDP2P. Especially if it's brown.
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
^ These types of people are the ones you NEVER listen to.
Sass does not refer to sassafras..
Not to mention, the amount of Sassafras it would take to ingest an amount of Safrole to produce any effect would:
1) Make you sick
2) Not be possible. Safrole is not a psychoactive substance.
Now.. Safrole is a carcinogenic oily liquid that is a precursor to MDMA (in the synthesis Safrole is actually used to produce MDP2P - 3,4-(Methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-propanone - which is then used to synthesize MDMA).
Pure MDMA is white, but minute impurities can cause other colors to be present. For example, the presense of extremely small amounts of MDP2P in MDMA may cause the color to be anywhere from off-white to dark brown. As a matter of fact, here is a picture of some very high quality brown MDMA:
https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/356702-wanna-see-some-good-molly.html
Just a couple of edits... and please shut the fuck up Jakenbake.
So basically the only thing you disagree with is what 'Sass' refers to, and whether or not it has psychoactive properties. Everything else you said just reiterates what I already said, like if it's brown it most likely contains MDP2P, and PURE MDMA is white, asshat.
And since we're posting random, un-cited quotes to prove out points, here's one for ya.
"The North-American foliage tree Sassafras albidum is a rich source of safrole. Sassafras' effects vary from euphoria in low doses to hallucinogenic effects in higher doses. Safrole is also present in Illicium parviflorum, Acorus calamus and nutmeg. Effects Euphoria, erotic sensations, heavy stimulation and changes in visual- and auditory perception. Autonomic changes: dilated pupils, nausea, increased cardio-output, rise of bloodpressure."
Hmm.. Sounds a lot like rolling, no? Funny too, cause I've taken Sassafras and yes, it did make me quite sick to my stomach for a couple hours (nothing worse than eating a bunch of mushrooms), but it also took me for quite the ride. Not one I'd repeat, but one I don't regret taking. Now we're just talking semantics, and frankly, I care not. You call one thing Sass, we call something else Sass. Smoke a J, man, and relax.
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
The reason I disagree with what Sass refers to is:
1) It is a stupid slang, as users confuse MDA with MDMA, which would cause a variance in dosages and effects (which could produce some pretty unwanted or dangerous effects)
2) It does not refer to a plant nor the essential oil that is derived from it (this is simply something an uneducated drug dealer would say)
If you would have sent in a sample of "Sass" to be gc/ms analyzed (and seeing as how you believe "sass" is sassafras, I can see you have not done so) you would see it is either MDMA or MDA.
Safrole FAQ (provided via Erowid):
Toxicity
Sassafras
and browsing the "Constituents" portion of the page to see how many components Sassafras contains; even if Sassafras is psychoactive, it is not from the Safrole. Maybe it was from the Myristicin?
1) It is a stupid slang, as users confuse MDA with MDMA, which would cause a variance in dosages and effects (which could produce some pretty unwanted or dangerous effects)
2) It does not refer to a plant nor the essential oil that is derived from it (this is simply something an uneducated drug dealer would say)
If you would have sent in a sample of "Sass" to be gc/ms analyzed (and seeing as how you believe "sass" is sassafras, I can see you have not done so) you would see it is either MDMA or MDA.
Safrole FAQ (provided via Erowid):
Toxicity
"Grande GA, Dannewitz SR, Symptomatic Sassafras Oil Ingestion, Vet. Hum. Toxicol 1987 29 447"
"Effects of Nutmeg & Myristicine by Scott Dorsey"
Why would someone sell something that after ingesting 5mL could send you to the hospital, along with potentially causing hepatotoxicity and cancer? Regardless, what would the dosage of "sass" (being sassafras or safrole) be for an effective psychoactive dosage?
I did not reiterate what you said; you said that anything other than a "snowflakey white" to a yellowish-white is not pure MDMA and is MDA or MDP2P... I said:
I hear percentages ~1% may alter the color of MDMA. In my book 99% pure MDMA is pure.. I recommend reading this page:
Sassafras
and browsing the "Constituents" portion of the page to see how many components Sassafras contains; even if Sassafras is psychoactive, it is not from the Safrole. Maybe it was from the Myristicin?