Faded329
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I fed the khaos with lights on at 79° but I think my fan blows off the water to quickly. I font know what to expect I've never foliar fed before. Any tips would be appreciated.
MOAB (Mother of all blooms) VS Nectar For The Gods!!!
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Cannabis.Is.Free
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Ha yea I saw that after making my original post.
Maybe for my next grow I'll do MOAB vs Fox farms
roseypeach
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My garden loved the Fox Farms...can't wait to see the results of this!
There's a new thread about it now, https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-happened-to-this-place.827455/YUP!! I don't like it at all. I will be the 1st to say it, and not hold back my true feelings. lol
lol~Dankster~420
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I hear that... Well main reason why I don't is cause the water sits on the leaves and its like holding a magnifying glass on um (leaves) with he lights on & it will cause spots on the plants leaves. Thats why allot of growers have questions, and or you see allot of them posting threads "spots on my leaves what happened". lol More then likely its due to foliage feeding. Most cases.
~Dankster~420
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You gotta watch that FF shit. One being is because if you'll take a look at the ingredients they don't put if any its not much (cal-mag) in any of their products. I found myself having to add cal-mag all the time when I used the FF lineup. so just keep an eye on that.
so just keep an eye on that.
My garden loved the Fox Farms...can't wait to see the results of this!
There's a new thread about it now, https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-happened-to-this-place.827455/
roseypeach
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I didn't have too much of any issues when I was using it before but I can def see the cal mag issue. I never had the rich dark green foliage that most of you guys usually have with GOYou gotta watch that FF shit. One being is because if you'll take a look at the ingredients they don't put if any its not much (cal-mag) in any of their products. I found myself having to add cal-mag all the time when I used the FF lineup.
urban1026835
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haha IM an ass wipe, and a procrastonator but still here still yours. fyi you cannot ship liquids in a priority mail box so gotta brown box it eventually.I didn't have too much of any issues when I was using it before but I can def see the cal mag issue. I never had the rich dark green foliage that most of you guys usually have with GO
roseypeach
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oh its you...BWAHAHAHAAA!!! lol just givin you a lil hell man, all in fun. You can ship them in bubble envelopes
that's how I got my FF sample bottles off E-bay the last couple years the seller tapes the lid shut (too good IMO) and throws em in the bubble.
Faded329
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So I'm flipping 12/12 today I'm running P3 boogie brew vegan tea and nftg sample pack. I'm not sure which of the nftg products I should use in the brew to feed the biology though, any suggestions.When I feed that round I used like said the Flora lineup, also the flora +, and the P3. That was it. OH wait, molasses to.
roseypeach
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Faded, hi there! Dank is no longer on RIU, he's moved. But he asked me to direct his followers to his new forum. Here's the link...
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67978
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67978
churchhaze
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For 12 dollars, you could get many times the amount of KH2PO4 (monopotassium phosphate).
What's the point?
It's the nutrient companies convincing you all this is rocket science. MOAB = KH2PO4. The product is identical to the chemical because it's about 99% that chemical... They are interchangeable as they are the same thing.
http://www.cropking.com/HydroponicSupplies/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=264_268&zenid=f421709a9a6e1dbddb08123bdc7f9053
1 Pound for 3.50.
Don't be fools.
The nutrient companies are tricking you.
YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO TAKE YOUR SAMPLES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE STEALING A HANDFUL OF MCDONALDS SALT PACKETS!
What's the point?
It's the nutrient companies convincing you all this is rocket science. MOAB = KH2PO4. The product is identical to the chemical because it's about 99% that chemical... They are interchangeable as they are the same thing.
http://www.cropking.com/HydroponicSupplies/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=264_268&zenid=f421709a9a6e1dbddb08123bdc7f9053
1 Pound for 3.50.
Don't be fools.
The nutrient companies are tricking you.
YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO TAKE YOUR SAMPLES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE STEALING A HANDFUL OF MCDONALDS SALT PACKETS!
churchhaze
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And you wouldn't have to worry about liquids being shipped to you if you got raw salts. I just can't believe other people think what I do is overly complicated. You're all insane.
Some company renames a common agricultural salt to "mad scientist mother of all blooms" (are you serious?) and you guys act like they just invented sliced bread, or the modern operating system. Consumer confidence must be at an all time high, because you people will buy anything.
Some company renames a common agricultural salt to "mad scientist mother of all blooms" (are you serious?) and you guys act like they just invented sliced bread, or the modern operating system. Consumer confidence must be at an all time high, because you people will buy anything.
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~Dankster~420
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I agree. But however 4 the 12$ you dont get all the other goodies that wouldnt come with just purchasing (KH2PO4 (monopotassium phosphate). Such as the clone gel they send, + all the other goodies. lol. Hell its 12$. And considering everything you get... Sure seems like a damn good deal 2 me. lol
~Dankster~420
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Oh come on. You know your the culprit behind all those stealing's of Mcdonalds packs of salt, and ketchup. lol j/k with you.
~Dankster~420
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I dont really understand you ranting bro. I myself was merely testing their product out to prove it does what they "claim". lol it will be ok. I didnt really buy anything. I paid 4 the S& H.
thecannacove
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When the dust settles church, its not your money being spent. You've said your piece and its appreciated, but to keep saying the same thing over again to insult anybody that uses the product, well, it serves nobody. You're diluting your own message with negativity.
We are all fully aware where you stand on the product. Thanks, for your opinion, if you don't care to contribute anything else, just move on.
We are all fully aware where you stand on the product. Thanks, for your opinion, if you don't care to contribute anything else, just move on.
churchhaze
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What's the point of this forum anyway if all the "advice" is to support the sponsors? Why isn't the nutrients section about nutrients? Almost every single thread here is about "Which line of nutrients is better?". Seriously? What an annoying question. What's the point of switching from GH to AN or canna? Who cares? It's hardly a question about which nutrients they should use and more a question of what "products" and "brands" they like to use. It gets really messy because everyone likes to use their own line, then has to specifically seek out other people using the exact same line with the exact same products. It would be like asking if anyone has used Bayer, and people saying they've only had aspirin.
A lot of people don't worry about whether they get coke or pepsi, yet growers swear their plants can tell the difference, and are picky too! literally, people ask which sweeteners are the best.
What would really help people out is a section completely devoted to dry salts. The only reason it's so confusing to people is there is no sticky threads or sections on it. There's no way I'll buy the argument that combinations of 3 bottles of some marketing name combined in the just right ratio with whatever PK booster, Cal-mag+, etc is simpler than using real salts, where each brand has the same empirical formula.
How else can I get my message across? Plants eat the chemicals, not the brands.
You know it's really hard to suppress the negativity with all the crap I get for trying to help. I don't come with a way to do hydro, I come with THE way. There is only one way, and it's what the nutrient companies sell you at ridiculous markup.
A lot of people don't worry about whether they get coke or pepsi, yet growers swear their plants can tell the difference, and are picky too! literally, people ask which sweeteners are the best.
What would really help people out is a section completely devoted to dry salts. The only reason it's so confusing to people is there is no sticky threads or sections on it. There's no way I'll buy the argument that combinations of 3 bottles of some marketing name combined in the just right ratio with whatever PK booster, Cal-mag+, etc is simpler than using real salts, where each brand has the same empirical formula.
How else can I get my message across? Plants eat the chemicals, not the brands.
You know it's really hard to suppress the negativity with all the crap I get for trying to help. I don't come with a way to do hydro, I come with THE way. There is only one way, and it's what the nutrient companies sell you at ridiculous markup.
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CannaReview
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Looking at MOAB NPK 0-52-32 NPK LOL that straight up out of the bag Mono Potassium Phosphate. I sell that at my store as a bloom booster, package it down and sell it. I know some people hate to hear this but MKP is the major part of 99% of bloom boosters out there some of them are straight MKP with food coloring. This is coming from a guy who owns a hydro store so I why would I tell people that.
jaywize318
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Im subbed wanna see results as well