MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

Kootenaygirl

Kootenaygirl

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R.Raider said:
Does anyone know if Licensed Producers are allowed to advertise or is it restricted like tobacco?
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Hi Raider. Check out s. 70 of the Narcotic Control Regulations which deals with advertising. Short answer - no advertising to the general public, but the section leaves some wiggle room with provisions, as usual clear as mud.
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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Kootenaygirl said:
Hi Raider. Check out s. 70 of the Narcotic Control Regulations which deals with advertising. Short answer - no advertising to the general public, but the section leaves some wiggle room with provisions, as usual clear as mud.
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Thx Kootenaygirl.
 
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Magenta Thumb

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In case any of you are wondering what cannabinoid HPLC validation can look like, I found this reference:
Journal of Chromatography B, 877 (2009) 4115–4124, and here is the article's URL: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570023209007545. If you can't get it readily by visiting a local university/college library, you might have to pony up the dough or try DeepDyve (which I have never tried, so I don't know how free it is).

General validation guidelines can be found here for free: http://www.ich.org/fileadmin/Public_Web_Site/ICH_Products/Guidelines/Quality/Q2_R1/Step4/Q2_R1__Guideline.pdf, and the ICH site in general is a good place to start for understanding Quality lingo and guidelines: http://www.ich.org/products/guidelines.html
 
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Kron3007

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Magenta Thumb said:
In case any of you are wondering what cannabinoid HPLC validation can look like, I found this reference:
Journal of Chromatography B, 877 (2009) 4115–4124, and here is the article's URL: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570023209007545. If you can't get it readily by visiting a local university/college library, you might have to pony up the dough or try DeepDyve (which I have never tried, so I don't know how free it is).

General validation guidelines can be found here for free: http://www.ich.org/fileadmin/Public_Web_Site/ICH_Products/Guidelines/Quality/Q2_R1/Step4/Q2_R1__Guideline.pdf, and the ICH site in general is a good place to start for understanding Quality lingo and guidelines: http://www.ich.org/products/guidelines.html
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Good info. Here is another free link with a lot of info, including a validated HPLC method, from the United Nations office on drugs and crime. This one is nice because it is written with clear instructions and it is hard to argue the validity of UN methods IMO.
 
pfk182

pfk182

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Question for those of you who are thinking of applying: About Section 11 of the application. It asked what kind of measure are you willing to put in place to keep track of patients, orders, medicine and all sorts of things like that. I was thinking of surfing the web a little to see what kind of Medical Management system was out there, but to my knowledge, or my gutt feeling is, that if your talking about "Medical" usually, you are talking about expensive softwares.

Anybody out there knows one with a reasonable price tag that you can refer me? Thank you
 
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kohaldawg

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This is my first post, great site to discuss the MMPR. I intent to to become a small quality producer and I'm interested in forming a network of LPs.
To all who asked about testing and the QA position: I'm beginning to think the QA position is a must. I first thought I could contract it out but that's just not likely to happen. Check out www.rpc.ca, they will do lot testing for about $1000. They will also provide training, the training is expensive but it will pay off in the end. I'm considering that option.
I am also looking for software from Point of Sale (POS) to QA.
Good luck,
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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I found this on another post and thought it should go here for info's sake, only I'm not savvy enough to link up to it or whatever you call it. I thought it belonged here though.



Originally Posted by OGEvilgenius
Some of the security requirements make your projection seem difficult to imagine. Five million seems a bit on the high side too, but it depends on how big you want to go and how much capital you have. I don't think you could legitimately setup for 500 grand very easily. Very specific building requirements are necessary and you need to have some fairly expensive lab equipment too if I am not mistaken. And that doesn't take into account all the other typical costs associated with getting this setup. And then staff. And then you need to develop a client base.
I have been in contact with a couple of QA consultants, you can outsource all of your QC testing hence eliminating the need for expensive lab equipment. Health Canada has provided me with a list of facilities we can use. Please see below:


List of Laboratories in possession of a valid Controlled Substance Licence allowing the possession of cannabis (marihuana) for analytical testing
Name of Lab
Address
Name of Contact
Phone Number
Email Address
CMH Biotechnologies Inc.
9B PTH 52 West, Steinbach, MB R5G 1X6
Mr. Leonard Philip Sarna
204-371-0100
[email protected]
Dalton Chemical Laboratories
349 Wildcat Road, Toronto, ON M3J 2S3
Mr. Ronald Herbert Angus
416-661-2102 ext: 222
[email protected]
New Brunswick Research and Productivity Council (RPC)
921 College Hill Rd, Fredericton, NB E6L 1T3
Mr. Troy Andrew Smith
506-452-1380
[email protected]
The Vimy Ridge Group Ltd.
16-2000 Ellesmere Rd Scarborough, ON M1H 2W4
Mr. John Constantine Fanaras
416-438-6727
[email protected]
Experchem Laboratories Inc.
1111 Flint Rd North York, ON M3J 3C7
Mr. Mana Sohil
416-665-2134 ext: 298 or 1-800-610-5576
[email protected]
SGS Canada Inc
6490 Vipond Drive Mississauga, ON L5T 1W8
Ms. Gita Patel
905-364-3757 ext: 13768
[email protected]
 
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Magenta Thumb

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analyst84 said:
Youre the man Kron, I owe you huge for this doc.
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It is a nice start but it appears to only be good for total THC and makes no mention of quantifying total CBD and it does it by decarboxylating the acids, which is usually anathema to the HPLC approach. Also, it might take a while to access those Swiss validation reports to see what the actual validation parameters are. But, yes, a good place to start.
 
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Kron3007

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Magenta Thumb said:
It is a nice start but it appears to only be good for total THC and makes no mention of quantifying total CBD and it does it by decarboxylating the acids, which is usually anathema to the HPLC approach. Also, it might take a while to access those Swiss validation reports to see what the actual validation parameters are. But, yes, a good place to start.
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Yeah, it's not perfect and is only validated for THC. I would prefer to have a method that measures both forms of THC anyway, rather than just total THC so the decarboxylation step may be unnecessary (although this method would not longer be validated if you skipped it). The GC method may be validated for CBD as well, but it is not clear how they wrote it.

That being said, the method you linked to is better as it includes several cannabinoids (and includes the acid forms). I will have to change my plan of attack. Thanks.
 
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