MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

bigmanc said:

Possibly, it does take effort to go to the computer and sign on. You need to understand, at 5 plants per gram...thats excessive. I know some people cant take care of them selves but you look at the greater picture and how many do you believe are in that boat? Most of the time its "cant grow 99 plants, you fill my script and keep the rest" there are flaws if we like it or not. I dont want to see it go but i dont see it staying, just like the 5 plant per gram.

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Well, I got to argue with you on this point. I have a script for 15g / day. That allows me to grow I think 73 plants. I have never grown 73 plants and I most likely never will because I don't have the space, time or inclination to grow more meds than I need. Having said that, there are rotten eggs in every batch. To think that by eliminating dgs is going to eliminate the problem is wishful thinking. Until legalization occurs where people can grow there own, we are going to continue to have problems with diversion and the BM.

bigmanc said:

Possibly, it does take effort to go to the computer and sign on. You need to understand, at 5 plants per gram...thats excessive. I know some people cant take care of them selves but you look at the greater picture and how many do you believe are in that boat? Most of the time its "cant grow 99 plants, you fill my script and keep the rest" there are flaws if we like it or not. I dont want to see it go but i dont see it staying, just like the 5 plant per gram.

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And there has never been a patient PPL that hasn't abused the system?

Plant #s...Some might want one large mother plant, and take lots of clones and flip them as soon as rooted and bloom under one light. Perhaps because of space restrictions? This yield could be the same as one or two monster plants. Doesn't a restriction on watts (2,500/ per licence?) better suit your desire to control the risk of diversion? No outdoor either eh, too easy to grow monsters...


I do understand, but I'm getting the feeling that perhaps you're the one not seeing things clearly.

I also have 15g per day and your right it is 73plants. I grow 32...and thats excessive. It wont get rid of the problem but it is a problem. If you had to score where illegal product came from it would be illegal grows then DG. I bet alot of these LPs that got denied were 4 license sites with 500+ plants...not patients like leafy is speaking of. Where did the LP start up material come from? people like me and you with 15gpd? dont kid yourself. It came from a bunch of 100gpd green houses with 2ft of concrete foundation so its "indoor"

leaf, maybe your not understanding. I feel being a DG is something thats needed but not for someone with say 20grams per day or more. You make the arguement of "they cant do it themselves" if they cant turn a valve to water a plant id love to see them try and consume 20gpd+ ... if your supplying someone say 3gpd i understand but anything more and the arguement goes both ways

bigmanc said:

leaf, maybe your not understanding. I feel being a DG is something thats needed but not for someone with say 20grams per day or more. You make the arguement of "they cant do it themselves" if they cant turn a valve to water a plant id love to see them try and consume 20gpd+ ... if your supplying someone say 3gpd i understand but anything more and the arguement goes both ways

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You consume 15g/d ?

bigmanc said:

I also have 15g per day and your right it is 73plants. I grow 32...and thats excessive. It wont get rid of the problem but it is a problem. If you had to score where illegal product came from it would be illegal grows then DG. I bet alot of these LPs that got denied were 4 license sites with 500+ plants...not patients like leafy is speaking of. Where did the LP start up material come from? people like me and you with 15gpd? dont kid yourself. It came from a bunch of 100gpd green houses with 2ft of concrete foundation so its "indoor"

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You think 32 small plants under a 1,000w light is excessive?

Why must the problem be from a DG versus a PPL?

with wax, oil, edibles,canna caps and joints...if i calculated the dry material i bet its up there.

Because a DG doesnt need to have a medical need for the plant, there only concern is growing it. Its cool, i know where you fall in all of this.

If I could grow enough to have 15g/day, I wouldn't be vaping....I'd be concentrating and ingesting and probably have much better pain control than I do now. But I also know that I wouldn't need 73 plants to get there either. In my situation, I always have to have something in flower, something in veg ready to go to flower and either clones or seeds coming up. Max 6 plants in flower ever and they are at most 30" tall. That's my limits. Currently I go from dose to dose with increasing pain. I think inspections by fire dept might be an answer but I do like leaf's idea of limiting wattage.

Id love to see some of these DG grows lol or jungles

bigmanc said:

Id love to see some of these DG grows lol or jungles

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You should see the greenhouses that hold 4 20g/d PPL licences...Some "groups" prefer PPLs over DGs licences, for obvious reasons.

with a larger plant count a patient can grow all their meds for a year in one crop and relax the rest of the year

leaffan said:

You should see the greenhouses that hold 4 20g/d PPL licences...Some "groups" prefer PPLs over DGs licences, for obvious reasons.

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What are those obvious reasons? because they been granted use of mmj?

WHATFG said:

Well, I got to argue with you on this point. I have a script for 15g / day. That allows me to grow I think 73 plants. I have never grown 73 plants and I most likely never will because I don't have the space, time or inclination to grow more meds than I need. Having said that, there are rotten eggs in every batch. To think that by eliminating dgs is going to eliminate the problem is wishful thinking. Until legalization occurs where people can grow there own, we are going to continue to have problems with diversion and the BM.

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And what's wrong with the BM ....it served me well since the sixty's......there was no LP's or CC's around. So we the people did it ourselves....stop bashing the BM. I have a fondness for it because it was the only way to get meds and for a lot of folks still is.

c ray said:

with a larger plant count a patient can grow all their meds for a year in one crop and relax the rest of the year

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yep...I have enough from last years outdoor grow to hold me well past harvest...)



mojo

Grow as much as you can...fuck the Diaz Brother's...rebel ....overwhelm the pricks.......fuck em all.

mojoganjaman said:

yep...I have enough from last years outdoor grow to hold me well past harvest...)



mojo

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No shit....with the farkin jungle you got going Mojo...lol...congrats man.....what strain and how'd it turn out this year

The Hippy said:

And what's wrong with the BM ....it served me well since the sixty's......there was no LP's or CC's around. So we the people did it ourselves....stop bashing the BM. I have a fondness for it because it was the only way to get meds and for a lot of folks still is.

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Not bashing the black market,but from a legalization standpoint it has to go.

If it's legalize it will crumble some......but I bet not completely.....it's the people plant and can't be controlled. That is actually the beauty of it. Fucks up the " Man " that way and I love it.

MORE....MORE ....MORE !!!!
It's the key to this whole deal.
Like CC's,, LP's,,, DG,,,,,MMAR... keep the list going... add as much to it as possible.
Give them MORE things to worry about.
Leave them with only one feasible option.
Legalization!!