MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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I have been growing cannabis for the last 25 years, it's in my blood, it's my passion. Not everybody has the luxury to grow their own, which I think is everybody's god given right. Where are people who can't grow for themselves supposed to find their meds? The black/grey market, where you never know what poisons have been used to protect their crop from pests. I am only providing a service to those people who want to use me. Unfortunately there are costs associated with growing cannabis, and those cost have to be passed on to the patients. You expect me to provide my skills and time for free? If I could I would, but how do I feed my family? What's wrong with me sharing the fruits of my labor with people that can't grow for themselves? I am confidant that I can produce a quality, tested, product for a reasonable price ($5/g). My track record has proven this. Why should I be ostracized for wanting to help. I believe I can make a difference from the inside of the MMPR, setting a standard for others to follow. You guys sit on your high horse ridiculing LP's, but what are you really doing to make changes? Sitting behind your computer all day waiting to pounce on perspective LP's on an Internet forum doesn't count, you should be directing your hate to the people responsible, your government. I'm just an ordinary guy with some skills, that I would like to share with people who are in need. Granted the current LP situation looks pretty bleak, almost comical. But give it some time, there will obviously be kinks and growing pains to be worked out, unlike any new industry. Growing cannabis is an art, and shouldn't be rushed. These are the mistakes being made right now. LP's rushing to get their foot in the door, and pumping out sub par product and quality suffers, and the whole program suffers. Patients it is a virtue. Ultimately you should have the choice to grow your own, or to purchase clean, safe, affordable, quality, medicine.

Itsme.
 
The Hippy

The Hippy

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sorry but there's nothing in the LP system I can except at this point. Only once legalized will they be okay in my books. Patients can buy on-line elsewhere or from CC's. I'm not against freedom of choice....okay.
So if folks want to buy from LP's...I think they should if they want to. BUT NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO. Trying to hold some of these poor folks to one LP s like they have tried to do (desperate bastards ) is wrong. Playing fucking games with peoples paperwork so you can hold them hostage...this happens you know.
I'm not gonna go thru ALL the problem so far with LP's. It's too sickening to repeat. Go for it. As I said a stupid business model so far. But you feel free to buy a franchise. It's just not the right time or thing to do....you'll see.
It never pays to go against an angry mob. New MMPR folks just don't know these things...yet.
 
maddtrapper

maddtrapper

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Thx it's me ,we will see what the court case brings in feb,to date the federal gov has never won any cases against medical marijuana of which we have and are part of Go Conroy and Company .

( have you contributed to this defense we have)

I we hope that those who wish to grow there own can continue to do so, however there are many that cannot and we wish to help fill that void to provide high quality pharmaceutical grade cannabis . We anticipate the two programs the mmar and the mmpr will run together at the outcome of the trial.

I just do not get the negative energy from Hippy and company, (Hippies the peace love and not war movement).
FYI we put in our first application appx 1 yr ago it has taken us this long to get here. We are here just hoping to glean some info from some other like minded individuals, That is all and appreciate what info can be shed going thru enough in life with out the negative feedback.

FyI the supreme court did a study and figured that there is appx 400,000 daily cannabis users ,CBC did a study and figured it was closer to 10% of the population of Canada that is 3,5 million people that is depending on how you roll your marihuana cigarettes appx 3.5 million grams a day,3.5 tons a day appx 100 tons a month conservatively. We figure it is closer to 30% but you crunch the numbers you would need to be producing . I would rather see government graded cannabis on the market than illicit product treated with who knows what to combat mites. thrips . pildew etc. grown in who knows what conditions. In our opinion a small garden grower can keep a meticulous working environment but the bigger you get the harder that is, hence industry set guide lines for public health consumption,,, Just common sense and rational logic in my opinion,

Peace
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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maddtrapper said:
Hey all ,
just caught up in the clusterfu,,, of HC...Hippy crack ( we first nicknamed pollen hash) just kidding ..what a gong show we originally got into this with the mmar .When there was less than 500 mmar licences because of a number of our friends being challenged individuals Quads ,parapalegics and a few with epilepsy . We are trying to get a foot hold into this industry our corporation is actually comprised of some of our good friends as above. We feel that this industry was created by us for us and are trying very hard to comply with HC and get our mmpr.it is not for the faint of heart that is for sure. On our ___ revocation letter the list gets smaller. Question for the woodsman once you have complied with the checklist for pre-reception approval ...where does that put us on the playing field into security screening or more letters?...thanks


Cheers
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If you have a MM#### than you made it past the door and the game has just started, you have at least 3 Jr. reviews followed by 3 senior reviews, with a few WTF's tossed in. WTF's = Lost documents, asking you the same question over and over, toss in a denial letter and 12 questions on your QA and than a detailed list of what your QA does every day and when your QA is there and what to do when he is not! Now add to that a couple misunderstandings and asking you the same question again and again and than maybe, maybe you will get your Security clearances if you did it the right way. But that is a whole other story.

Sad but true, O by the way if they decide they don't like you multiply the above by 3 or 4.

Now toss in this mix some big changes at the top of the MMPR division, house cleaning?

Could signal a change of direction at HC, or the light at the end is a train. One thing I can tell you is HC will start licensing LP's again, just when they do that only HC knows for sure.

PS. Remember they need to deal with the recent ruling out in BC on derivatives too. I was speaking to a BC company who is building 2 trailers with Co2 reactors to take to LP's and process the cannabis into OIL. What a cool idea.
 
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gb123

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"Many nervous investors are awaiting decisions on their multimillion-dollar bids, reported Cbc.Ca News"

. Health Canada holds the key to BILLIONS!.
Nothing binding anyone from not to say anything/letting it out. To the highest bidders. I wonder who's bank account starts to jump just before an LP goes public ;)
Way more to be made this way :lol: all legal until someone is caught?!?!:hump:
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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itsmehigh said:
I have been growing cannabis for the last 25 years, it's in my blood, it's my passion. Not everybody has the luxury to grow their own, which I think is everybody's god given right. Where are people who can't grow for themselves supposed to find their meds? The black/grey market, where you never know what poisons have been used to protect their crop from pests. I am only providing a service to those people who want to use me. Unfortunately there are costs associated with growing cannabis, and those cost have to be passed on to the patients. You expect me to provide my skills and time for free? If I could I would, but how do I feed my family? What's wrong with me sharing the fruits of my labor with people that can't grow for themselves? I am confidant that I can produce a quality, tested, product for a reasonable price ($5/g). My track record has proven this. Why should I be ostracized for wanting to help. I believe I can make a difference from the inside of the MMPR, setting a standard for others to follow. You guys sit on your high horse ridiculing LP's, but what are you really doing to make changes? Sitting behind your computer all day waiting to pounce on perspective LP's on an Internet forum doesn't count, you should be directing your hate to the people responsible, your government. I'm just an ordinary guy with some skills, that I would like to share with people who are in need. Granted the current LP situation looks pretty bleak, almost comical. But give it some time, there will obviously be kinks and growing pains to be worked out, unlike any new industry. Growing cannabis is an art, and shouldn't be rushed. These are the mistakes being made right now. LP's rushing to get their foot in the door, and pumping out sub par product and quality suffers, and the whole program suffers. Patients it is a virtue. Ultimately you should have the choice to grow your own, or to purchase clean, safe, affordable, quality, medicine.

Itsme.
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How much time? This program has been in operation now for over a year. LP's should already know how to grow dope, but they apparently don't. So I ask again....how long are sick people supposed to wait for LP's to learn how to grow?
 
maddtrapper

maddtrapper

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Hmm thx for that, The supreme court of B.C upheld a lower court's ruling on edibles unfortunately that only applies to B.C for now .Now it is sent back to the house , they have one year to make it comply with the constitution .I have heard there is a communication opening up with them directly IE: phone calls direct emails...Have you ever talked to HC directly?

Cheers
 
leaffan

leaffan

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maddtrapper said:
Thx it's me ,we will see what the court case brings in feb,to date the federal gov has never won any cases against medical marijuana of which we have and are part of Go Conroy and Company .

( have you contributed to this defense we have)

I we hope that those who wish to grow there own can continue to do so, however there are many that cannot and we wish to help fill that void to provide high quality pharmaceutical grade cannabis . We anticipate the two programs the mmar and the mmpr will run together at the outcome of the trial.

I just do not get the negative energy from Hippy and company, (Hippies the peace love and not war movement).
FYI we put in our first application appx 1 yr ago it has taken us this long to get here. We are here just hoping to glean some info from some other like minded individuals, That is all and appreciate what info can be shed going thru enough in life with out the negative feedback.

FyI the supreme court did a study and figured that there is appx 400,000 daily cannabis users ,CBC did a study and figured it was closer to 10% of the population of Canada that is 3,5 million people that is depending on how you roll your marihuana cigarettes appx 3.5 million grams a day,3.5 tons a day appx 100 tons a month conservatively. We figure it is closer to 30% but you crunch the numbers you would need to be producing . I would rather see government graded cannabis on the market than illicit product treated with who knows what to combat mites. thrips . pildew etc. grown in who knows what conditions. In our opinion a small garden grower can keep a meticulous working environment but the bigger you get the harder that is, hence industry set guide lines for public health consumption,,, Just common sense and rational logic in my opinion,

Peace
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woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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Yes I talk to HC, changes happening there now and some more to come. So will need to build up some of the relationships again. Helps when the new guys EA knows your name, that's why it's important to treat people well, the EA is the gate keeper, if she does not like you or know you, your done. Helps if you speak french.
 
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gb123

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maddtrapper said:
Thx it's me ,we will see what the court case brings in feb,to date the federal gov has never won any cases against medical marijuana of which we have and are part of Go Conroy and Company .

( have you contributed to this defense we have)

I we hope that those who wish to grow there own can continue to do so, however there are many that cannot and we wish to help fill that void to provide high quality pharmaceutical grade cannabis . We anticipate the two programs the mmar and the mmpr will run together at the outcome of the trial.

I just do not get the negative energy from Hippy and company, (Hippies the peace love and not war movement).
FYI we put in our first application appx 1 yr ago it has taken us this long to get here. We are here just hoping to glean some info from some other like minded individuals, That is all and appreciate what info can be shed going thru enough in life with out the negative feedback.

FyI the supreme court did a study and figured that there is appx 400,000 daily cannabis users ,CBC did a study and figured it was closer to 10% of the population of Canada that is 3,5 million people that is depending on how you roll your marihuana cigarettes appx 3.5 million grams a day,3.5 tons a day appx 100 tons a month conservatively. We figure it is closer to 30% but you crunch the numbers you would need to be producing . I would rather see government graded cannabis on the market than illicit product treated with who knows what to combat mites. thrips . pildew etc. grown in who knows what conditions. In our opinion a small garden grower can keep a meticulous working environment but the bigger you get the harder that is, hence industry set guide lines for public health consumption,,, Just common sense and rational logic in my opinion,

Peace
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WHA WHA WHA I WANT MY TWO PERCENT!
...........and Ill do what ever it takes to burn them(smokers) hard and make them pay.

That's all anyone reads.
It's sad and misguided.

cheers big head.
 
leaffan

leaffan

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woodsmaneh! said:
Maybe first lawsuit!! :fire:

MediJean was the darling of the west coast and was on track to get their LP then it looks like internal strife and some questionable behavior ended the dream, have a look.

https://twitter.com/jeanchiasson
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Myself and others have long been talking about the medijean team. Never understanding why that team was put together. Never understanding how in the hell they could get security clearance. How they could get investors with that team.
I guess we were right all along.
Another note...we also talked about the impact that a certain phone call could make.

Thanks for posting, that cheered me up somewhat.
 
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Kron3007

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maddtrapper said:
I would rather see government graded cannabis on the market than illicit product treated with who knows what to combat mites. thrips . pildew etc. grown in who knows what conditions. In our opinion a small garden grower can keep a meticulous working environment but the bigger you get the harder that is, hence industry set guide lines for public health consumption,,, Just common sense and rational logic in my opinion,

Peace
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Actions speak louder than words. This program has only been in place for about a year, and how many QA failures and other LP shenanigans have there been? Obviously $hit happens, but what has HC or anyone else done about it? Absolutely nothing; these LPs have not been punished for obvious failures due to incompetence and/or illegal activity and they are allowed to just go on as usual. Seriously, the QA problems that have occurred are not minor oversights, they are clear indications that they are not following any of the rules that were set out and dont really care, yet I have not heard about any consequences.

The only thing that seems to matter in this system is security and of course who's pockets you line. It is not about quality, there is no QA oversight or reprecussions, and you are probably better off buying from the dude on the corner in that regard. I say this as a previous applicant that naively thought this was for the best for anyone who could not produce it themeself (QA issues etc.), but the whole application process and networking opened my eyes to the harsh reality. Most of this business has been co-opted by large corporate interests, lawyer groups, creepy doctors, and other slimy characters. Even the big hearted little guys that make it through are basically forced to sell out to their corporate overlords (I've seen it happen in front of my eyes).

I guess I am a reluctant Hippy convert.
 
Jackal69

Jackal69

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Kron3007 said:
Actions speak louder than words. This program has only been in place for about a year, and how many QA failures and other LP shenanigans have there been? Obviously $hit happens, but what has HC or anyone else done about it? Absolutely nothing; these LPs have not been punished for obvious failures due to incompetence and/or illegal activity and they are allowed to just go on as usual. Seriously, the QA problems that have occurred are not minor oversights, they are clear indications that they are not following any of the rules that were set out and dont really care, yet I have not heard about any consequences.

The only thing that seems to matter in this system is security and of course who's pockets you line. It is not about quality, there is no QA oversight or reprecussions, and you are probably better off buying from the dude on the corner in that regard. I say this as a previous applicant that naively thought this was for the best for anyone who could not produce it themeself (QA issues etc.), but the whole application process and networking opened my eyes to the harsh reality. Most of this business has been co-opted by large corporate interests, lawyer groups, creepy doctors, and other slimy characters. Even the big hearted little guys that make it through are basically forced to sell out to their corporate overlords (I've seen it happen in front of my eyes).

I guess I am a reluctant Hippy convert.
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don't feel bad about seeing the truth of how corrupt business really is...... and it's not just mmj industry
 
johny sunset

johny sunset

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https://twitter.com/jeanchiasson/status/507508527917973504

Anybody hear what's going on over at medijean? Sounds like there is some serious Turmoil I between the ranks and with reeferman?

@jeanchiasson: @_CANNAda @jeanchiasson he used my company and stole hundreds of thousands of seeds and used my X partner Chris Dollard the idiot to do it.


jean chiasson is going off on twitter. From th sounds of it the company is no more ?
 
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gb123

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its all about how bad you can fuck the other guy...get away with it legally and then take your buddy who you fucked out of millions out for dinner.
How do you like me now.
And he's supposed to be fine with that . :lol:
Ya gotta love business. If He didn't get fucked... it would have been the other way around.
 
CalyxCrusher

CalyxCrusher

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woodsmaneh! said:
Maybe first lawsuit!! :fire:

MediJean was the darling of the west coast and was on track to get their LP then it looks like internal strife and some questionable behavior ended the dream, have a look.

https://twitter.com/jeanchiasson
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Any word on WTF kind of shit Reeferman pulled? Johny posted a tweet he found about seed theft. Interested in the details as I just saw a full 2 page ad in this months issue of High Times for Reeferman Genetics
 
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