Mixing nutrients?

Okay, so I'm running a very basic 10 gallon dwc with 5 plants in it. 2 of them are large and ready to be switched into flowering, however 3 of them are smaller and still need some growing time, as their light is being hogged a little by the larger plants. (I'm running a 600w MH, also need to trim to help that out a little bit.)
My question is, would mixing say, dynagro foliage pro and dynagro bloom with the right ratio, satisfy both the plants ready to bloom, as well as the plants that need to stay in veg. I know this is probably a stupid questions because along with the nutrients, the light schedule will have to change too. Would the smaller plants still stay in veg since the veg nutrients will be available, despite the light schedule change? Same question with the 2 larger ready-to-flower plants, would go to flowering stage as a result of having the lighting schedule change and the nutrients needed to flower available?

When i think about it, it seems like it could work because the required nutrients for each stage are available in the res, but my concern is the lighting and what effects it could have on the plants still in veg. would a 12/12 schedule push those smaller plants into a "flowering" stage where they won't produce anything except a stunted growth and likely hinder their yield in the future?
 

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firsttimeARE

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No receiving veg nutrients will not.keep.a plant in veg.

This is the flaw of.multi plant sites.

As the bigger planta get bigger the small.plant wont ever catch up especially since.you say its already falling behind due to lack of.light.

Id move them.to another dwc site.

You will want an HPS light for flowering. With an.MH you will get lots of leaves.
 

WeedFreak78

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The light cycle is what triggers flowering, nutrients don't matter. During the dark period hormones build up which induce flowering. In general it takes repeated, 12hrs of continuous dark to allow the hormones to build up to the levels where they induce flowering. Light destroys the hormones that trigger flowering, so when you have 14+ hours of light most plants will stay in the Veg state because the flowering hormones aren't allowed to build up.
 
yes i am planning to switch to HPS when i switch into flowering, my fixture can do both. okay, thanks for all that info, so now i'm just left with one question. Since it is the light schedule that induces flowering. if i switch the nutes and the light schedule, my bigger plants will go into flowering, what will happen to the smaller ones? simply stunted growth? they are definitely too small to flower
 

firsttimeARE

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They go into flower with the bigger ones.

The only thing that brings a plant to flower(assuming your plants arent auto flowers) is light schedule.

Size or nutrients have no bearing. Sure youll want more nutes with a higher p and k ratio to n but thats it.
 
and if they are auto-flowers? will light schedule affect when they flower? when do they flower then if they are auto-flowering? in a post above you said that light schedule is what puts a plant into flowering by allowing the build up of particular hormones needed for budding, however with an auto flowering I'm not educated very well in this matter and don't know how it would work with say an 18/6 light schedule as opposed to a 12/12
 

WeedFreak78

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Auto-flowers will flower under 24hrs of light because they have a preset lifecycle, they don't rely on light regulated hormones.. They have been cross bred with cannabis ruderalis, which has a genetically set flower time - light does not cause the flowering. An autoflower will grow from seed to completion in a set amount of time with just about any light.

The "Regular" plants are considered photoperiod..because they rely on light to induce changes in the plant.

do you have a mix of auto's and photoperiod plants in there?
 
Auto-flowers will flower under 24hrs of light because they have a preset lifecycle, they don't rely on light regulated hormones.. They have been cross bred with cannabis ruderalis, which has a genetically set flower time - light does not cause the flowering. An autoflower will grow from seed to completion in a set amount of time with just about any light.

The "Regular" plants are considered photoperiod..because they rely on light to induce changes in the plant.

do you have a mix of auto's and photoperiod plants in there?
okay... there's a pretty good chance i have a mix. I don't know which of my 5 plants are auto flower and which are not. how much problem will this cause me? 2-3 of them are likely auto flowering, I just got my seeds mixed up in the beginning (amateur mistake i know, not claiming to be an expert.)
When it comes to auto flowering, they'll just start to bud when they're the right age? regardless of the nutes in the system? so i should see the plants begin to flower and that should be my queue to switch nutes to bloom? I wish i hadn't been so careless before, i was just so focused on things like nutes and my bennies that i forgot about keeping track of which seed was which strain.
 

WeedFreak78

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Do you know what the all the seeds are, breeder/strain, and their flowering times?
I'm assuming you only have a single area to grow..you don't have separate veg and flower areas? If that's the case you don't have many options.

Keep them under a veg light cycle till the auto's are done, continually pruning the reg's back to keep them manageable, then switch the light's to flower and flower the reg's. You'll get two harvests, appx 8 weeks apart, and in theory, max yields. Nutes would be hard because of plants being in such different stages of life.

Keep them under veg lights until there is appx 4 weeks left on the autos, then go 12/12 with everything. You might lose some yield on the autos, but you get two harvests appx 4 weeks apart. Nutes would be veg nutes until the 12/12 switch then flower nutes.

Put them all into flower now. Nutes would be just flower..gonna lose yield on the autos

The one big issue you will have is harvesting at different times, you're going to have to clean out the old roots as much as possible so they aren't rotting away inviting bacteria to grow.

Those plants are going to double or triple in height when they start to flower..
 
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