Mites? or?

thrips?

Either bug issue or pH issue.

leafhoppers or baby grasshoppers, i'm willing to bet
99.99 percent sure its not mites, honestly I've never had a mite prob outside, seems the environment slows them down enough, now INSIDE, weeeeellll, me and the ole 8'legged bastards go back some time......

Time to spray

There's no way you want to grow outside without pest prevention.

Looks like mites. Use a scope to know for sure. Their gross under a scope!

Thanks for all the quick replys

It must be a PH issue put a scope on them and I don't see any critters.I see dying areas.I have FFOF and dolomitic lime and Ph the water to 6.5.Now what?

thrips

thrips

Steeler and Muknee are right- Thrips. They fly in and out fast you won't see them very often when you have already disturbed the plant. They will cause some damage, but in my experiences they will not subdue a plant. They are small cigar shaped insects, white in color.

Strong evidence of spidermites. Check the under leaf for tiny black/red dots.

NOT spider mites. That looks more like thrip damage.

Do the affected areas look almost silver? If so, it's likely thrips.

Azamax spray top and under side of leaves. Apply once every 3-5 days for a couple weeks and you should be fine.

They look like the smaller one in photo could barely see it with a 40 powered mic.

that sucks man. i never have luck growing outside dam deer's and bugs eat the plant before it gets big.theres no hunting in our woods so deer's run show lol

pghdave420 said:

that sucks man. i never have luck growing outside dam deer's and bugs eat the plant before it gets big.theres no hunting in our woods so deer's run show lol

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i would poach the fawns with a bow, they taste the best

hexthat said:

i would poach the fawns with a bow, they taste the best

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you would love our woods then cause i see so many when i ride my quad and a shit load of turkey