Millet grain jars

misterdogman

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Get millet. Most nutes and cleanest purest seed. Easier than rye and as good or better. Millet is the little yellow or red bird seeds about as big as a small pot seed.

I do not simmer. I soak for 24-36 hours in HOT water.
after soaking for the first minute the water will look like Coca Cola, Keep filling and rinsing in a big tub until this stops. You want the water coming off clear. No darker than very weak tea. The clearer the better and cleaner...pour off coke water...then put in fresh water...use a much bigger container than needed, the seeds that float can be rinsed off too the good ones will sink and let the dirty water flow out this way, I do it in my sink with the sprayer and lose no seeds but the cracked floaters....

Take rinsed millet thats been soaked at least 24h and let drain very well. I put it in an old sheet and twist it up then spin it like a helicopter outside...Now mix with enough vermiculite to soak up moisture on the grain...about 1/4 cup per quart or so..and then a pinch of garden gypsum to stabilize PH swings.... fill quarts no more than 2/3rds full.

Get tyvek paint suits from Lowes or depot, poke 2... 1/4 inch holes in mason jar disc...one for innoculating and both for breathing cover these holes with gentle paper tape also called micropore for sensitive skin in the band aid isle...cut tyvek into 5 inch circles and put down tyvek, the lid disc and then screw on lid ring. Pressure cook with lid not tight, tighten lid until it starts to feel like the last turn and stop, not all the way...then cover this lid with Foil

Pressure cook for 1 hour @ 15 PSI. When done, use heat mitts to shake very good and when cool finish tightening lids.
Once done these last a long time. Ive innoculated some sitting around for a month after being PCd...
they are sterile.

After cool ....innoculate in one hole with either spores or liquid mycelium or some other culture. When all of the grain is 50-70 white for the first time shake and break it up. Hitting on your hand works for me, if it hurts you use a car tire and break it all up.
Let recolonize and when 100% white and colonized spawn to desired substrate in a monotub. a 4:1 ratio is needed. 4quarts of substrate needs 1 quart of spawn.

If you see any color other than white while colonizing...its probably a contamination. Sometimes youll see a seed poking threw that looks yellow or red...so dont freak thats not a contam just a seed. Youll know when its a contam. throw out contamed jars dont even open them.

Be sterile, wash yourself, your hands and use copius amounts of alcohol and H2o2 to clean up your work area. No fans heaters or drafts. Work in a small area that is closed up.

When colonizing dont use heat mats or warmers. Just keep your house at ambient between 70-80. And put them in a dark spot, Dont even look at them for a few days. Watched water never boils.

Sterile sterile sterile...is the key. most fail due to bad sterility habits.
A glove box is easy and good way to work in very sterile conditions. I use one when doing transfers and isolating rhizomorphic strands of mycelium but you only need one if serious.

Ill update with relevant info if I remember something I forgot. Hope you guys like these methods...
 

nashbar

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meh, I disagree with you on several points.

google grains for simple minds. soak/boil fail

millet is good, rye is better, wild bird seed is cheaper

sterility isn't an issue. pressure cooker is the only essential.
 

misterdogman

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meh, I disagree with you on several points.

google grains for simple minds. soak/boil fail

millet is good, rye is better, wild bird seed is cheaper

sterility isn't an issue. pressure cooker is the only essential.
Alright disagree, whatever. but dont deny education...
This is what works for me, ive done it over a hundred times with no failures...
So why dont you contribute or abstain picking apart details is irrelevant...
How many times have you done it the way I described??
big fat 0 times, so you do it your way ill do it mine and when I explain my method you can keep your opinions about it to yourself and maintina your own skills.
quit being a dic and going to all my threads where im only attempting to educate just to bring up shroomery or the method...
so are you saying this info should not be freely spread and on all forums covering the topic??? Thats naive. And saying sterility isnt an issue is asnine, go back to the basics bro, sterility and sanitation are the first and foremost important things in mycology...

I didnt post this stuff for it to be picked apart so grow up and contribute or not, just quit hijacking
 

nashbar

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you're fun guy. get it fun guy, fungi, fun guy.

search my posts on rollitup. instead of ripping content from shroomery, search my posts there.

you don't know me, abstain from thinking you do.

I contributed.

rye is more nutrious, better.

wild bird seed is cheaper, better.
 

misterdogman

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you're fun guy. get it fun guy, fungi, fun guy.

search my posts on rollitup. instead of ripping content from shroomery, search my posts there.

you don't know me, abstain from thinking you do.

I contributed.

rye is more nutrious, better.

wild bird seed is cheaper, better.
MILLET is WBS without sunflower or cracked corn etc. You really are being a moron man. Better than picking out sunflower seeds all day...and Rye is harder to prep and needs to be simmered, millet dont. Ask 100 cultivators and half or more will choose more millet.

Is it your goal to try to discredit the education or try to make me look bad? Im trying to spread it around, and the search dont work ...or id know what has and hasnt been posted...

Jeez man try to befriend me dont be an ass, i think we could do more helping people together instead of you trying to pick out irrelevant details, I gladly admitted in the monotub thread it was monstermitchs...all who read it will know I didnt invent or steal credit... so get over it and try to add to it not remove the knowledge or discredit it...
 

misterdogman

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tyvec is free at the post office. no need to buy those suits.
Fed Ex tyvek is not the quality you want....really man you need to read more..paint suit tyvek is like 4-5 layers and way better.
you can use fed ex envelopes but I would rather get 100 suits for a few bux...
 

nashbar

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yes millet is a grain and one ingredient in most wbs products. I don't know anyone nor have seen anyone use only millet.

did you google "grains for simple minds"?

just sharing my opinion. i have some experience, and i voiced my disagreement with your posts. at least I don't copy and paste.
 

misterdogman

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yes millet is a grain and one ingredient in most wbs products. I don't know anyone nor have seen anyone use only millet.

did you google "grains for simple minds"?

just sharing my opinion. i have some experience, and i voiced my disagreement with your posts. at least I don't copy and paste.
Yeah you didnt copy and paste, I did
and if you re read the monotub thread, I gave due credit and named the original author,
would it have made you happier if I went to the trouble of re making the exact same thread with the same info and redoing it almost identically, what a waste, in this digital age it is faster easier and nicer to pass on already written threads of info and letting the original author get the credit...

thats whay they call it a thread smart guy, it threads through the internet "connecting" users...

and grains for simple minds is overkill IMO, you do not need to simmer millet, and if you have never heard of people using it straight its because they prolly cant find it, usually it is mixed like WBS with other grain, but since I live in the midwest it is commonly sold straight.

Next time you prep some get it and just soak it like I described, then see if it works then compare the ease to your method.
Remember what I mentioned about the education and working together? MAybe that should be the goal of passing on info. You could be helping instead of detracting you know. Whether you copy paste or spend all your time creating original works, its the edu that matter man...
 

nashbar

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I guess you didn't read grains for simple minds. it advocates no simmer/boil/soak.

like I said, search my posts I know what I'm doing with millet and rye and quinoa for that matter.

copy some jive about quinoa, good stuff
 

misterdogman

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I guess you didn't read grains for simple minds. it advocates no simmer/boil/soak.

like I said, search my posts I know what I'm doing with millet and rye and quinoa for that matter.

copy some jive about quinoa, good stuff
wow a while ago you were advocating and telling me you disagreed with the choice not to simmer millet, now your going to pawn off someone elses TEK to me as if I need it that basically says the same thing?, you could at least copy it and paste it if you wanted to also pass on the education...

no thanks, I got my education covered and found what works the easiest and it happens to be the TEK I posted.
 
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