MG to fox farm soil swap, need some help

easternsanc

Member
Another thing I saw was how bad of an idea mg is. Peoples leaves turning yellow from to many nutes. I found a retailer locally selling fox farm so I was going to head there and snag some good soil. They are just starting to poke through, is it better to swap them asap? And shold I just take as little mg with my sprouts and re plant them with the fox farm? I only have em in party cups
 

tet1953

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I started with MG too on my first grow. Since you haven't transplanted to bigger pots yet I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just use good stuff when you transplant, that's what I'd do. But I'm still a noob too.
 

easternsanc

Member
I was thinking maybe hold off until im ready to transplant unless my little girls leaves start getting nute burn unless I get some strong feedback telling me to do it abut. haha im a noob to homie, but thanks for the inpujt
 

Kerovan

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you "hear" all kinds of stuff about MG. Some people hate it for some reason. But it is actually very good soil that will do your ladies well.
 

Jack in the Bud

Active Member
Guys,

There's nothing wrong with MG potting soil. I've been growing in it for over 7 years. I had some problems at first but it was because of other things I was doing wrong and not the fault of the MG products.

Your seedlings are going to do fine in it as long as you don't over water (a common beginer mistake) or give them any additional fertilizers to soon (the big beginer mistake). All though it depends on a lot of other factors, it ought to be at least 4 or 5 weeks before you even begin to think about giving them any additional NPK fertilizers. And then only some real light doses at first.

The only thing I would recomend you add to the MG potting mix is about 20% additional perlite to improve it's drainage characteristics. And if your just using your average municipal tap (or well) water don't get caught up in all this "ph"-ing of your water and adding things to try and adjust it. Unfortunetly I have really alkaline well water with a high TDS count so I've taken to collecting rain water to use on my plants. But before that I used water from the Culligan machine in WallyMart for years and never had any problems.

I'd recommend one watering with SuperThrive (@1/4 tsp/gallon) for young seedlings and when they get about 3 to 4 weeks old I'd give them a taste of Molasses (@1tsp/gallon). Other than that the best thing you can do for those plants for the next month is pretty much just leave them alone for the most part and let them do their thing.

If you've got them in 16 oz plastic cups they should be good for 2 to 3 weeks. At that point I'd recommend upcanning them to around a 1 gallon size container. And don't worry about the roots being so delicate that disturbing them during transplant will harm the plant. On the contrary, a little bit of roughing up the roots during transplant is a good thing and will help the plant to develope a stronger, healthier root system. I'd also recomend an 18/6 light cycle for veg because it will help promote good root growth. More light might make the above ground part of the plant grow faster right now but with out a good root system to support the plant later on in flowering it's final yield won't be all it could be.

Jack
 

Serapis

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I too grow in MG potting soil, and any problems I had were brought on by me. I currently have three cycles of plants, all in MG that are doing fantastic. It's not the potting soil, I can assure you. Many people in these forums have read that MG is bad and they repeat it all over the forums, with out really using it themself or researching the matter. Don't listen to what others are saying about MG, it's all crap. In fact, there was a thread on MG and FF with a side by side grow and MG won!!!

I do what JB does, I add MG Perlite. I use hydroton at the bottom of my containers for drainage. You will not need to add nutrients for some time. The plant's lower leaves will tell you when you need to start feeding the plant. Until then, just water when dry.
 

tet1953

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Well I certainly have to agree with Serapis. My problems were my own as well. I think the point is, while MG is a perfectly good medium, since it is preferted (with chemical ferts, no less), it makes it more difficult for us noobs (me, not you lol) to get conditions correct.
I switched to simple Promix and then used FF nutes following their schedule. I intend to start mixing that or something else 50/50 with FFOF soon though.
 

topspin

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I'd transplant as soon as possible!!! wash the roots etc and you will not be sorry. Going to fox farms from MG is like going from a lava bath to a milk bath. MG has burned many a seedling
 

Canon

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Yup, what they say about MG.

7 weeks from seed, autoflower, Miricle Grow Moisture Control.
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I bake & flush before using. (and it's a Autoflower)
 

Canon

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I'd transplant as soon as possible!!! wash the roots etc and you will not be sorry. Going to fox farms from MG is like going from a lava bath to a milk bath. MG has burned many a seedling
You really, really want him to wash away all the fine hairs on those fragile, delicate young roots? Really? :-(
 

dura72

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i never used mg as a sowing or cutting compost, i just use 'b & q' own brand( b&q are a sort of uk walmart) but i have always used mg when my seedlings have reached around 4 inches in height and ive never had nute burn, a lot of my friends grow as well and ive seen all different sorts of soil mixes and to be honest there was very little difference, the only thing with mg is that u dont need to give them any grow nutes for around four weeks. i use 70% mg 25% perlite and 5% vermiculite. its easy and cheap and my plants yeild around 3oz to 3.5oz every time. this is under 600 watts hps usually.(although i had a real freak of an la woman that gave me 7oz, fuck knows what happened with that one but i wish to god i could repeat it, pure fluke)
 
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