‘Merrick Garland shivering under his desk’: Former officials slam DOJ for lack of action on ‘criminal’ Trump

Roger A. Shrubber · Dec 8, 2021

hanimmal said:
There are more ticks left than there have been used so far. And again, they have gotten a shitload done. Thinking otherwise is just more 2009 nonsense when people tricked themselves into thinking that Obamacare, banking regulation, and fixing the Great Recession was not good enough and let the Tea Party trolling convince them to not vote so the Republicans could gerrymander the shit out of everything for the next decade.

Vaccine rollout, saving the economy from what was on pace to be the greatest eviction crisis in history as well as the largest amount of job losses in history due to Trump's shit handling of the pandemic, the largest infrastructure investment in history, the largest evacuation of a warzone that Trump abandoned, saving DACA, rejoining the Paris climate thing, avoiding war to this point with the Republicans stopping all of Biden's ambassador's, appointing the most diverse cabinet in history, stopped children from being ripped out of their parents arms at the border, stopped local and state government budget shortfalls, rejoined the WHO, reversed Trump's military transgender ban and Muslim ban. Avoided the stupid debt ceiling crisis the first time, and is about to again even though the Republicans would love to see it be a issue, which would be devastating to the economy.

There is a shit load that Biden and the Democrats have gotten done, and again, we are not even 1/4 of the way through his term, and there is still a year left to go before the next election that everyone is worried about due to Republicans/Trump cheating with their census and local election scams.

And again, that is on people to be real about the fact that the Democrats really doing everything on their list was always a pipe dream with 50 Democrats in the senate. If people need anymore reason to vote for Democrats than the fact that they are the only party actively trying to get shit done for 100% of the population, you would think it would be that the Republicans are doing everything they can to destroy our democracy and install a dictator who would only legislate for the <1% while pitting the rest of the nation against one another with lies and foreign generated propaganda.

i don't think they're sitting in the corner perfecting the circle jerk...but would it hurt to hire a good marketing firm to raise Biden's approval ratings? because the democrats suck at marketing. it wouldn't hurt them to use the same marketing firm to teach them all some fundamentals of self promotion, and how to counter some of the dirty tricks the republicans use daily. i'm not saying they're doing nothing, i'm saying they aren't doing the right things...they might not lose their majority if they could raise and maintain their approval ratings, if they could counter a few of the republicans dirtier tricks. if they were SEEN to be doing something....to the common people, it looks like they're sitting on their hands, asking silly questions to uncooperative people who are just giving them the finger and ignoring them... that doesn't go over well with the great unwashed.
keep on doing what they're doing, but start getting it in peoples faces, on a daily basis...start issuing a press release daily on progress with covid, inflation, the 1/6 investigation...i know they've been making progress, make damn sure EVERYONE knows it

hanimmal · Dec 8, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
i don't think they're sitting in the corner perfecting the circle jerk...but would it hurt to hire a good marketing firm to raise Biden's approval ratings? because the democrats suck at marketing. it wouldn't hurt them to use the same marketing firm to teach them all some fundamentals of self promotion, and how to counter some of the dirty tricks the republicans use daily. i'm not saying they're doing nothing, i'm saying they aren't doing the right things...they might not lose their majority if they could raise and maintain their approval ratings, if they could counter a few of the republicans dirtier tricks. if they were SEEN to be doing something....to the common people, it looks like they're sitting on their hands, asking silly questions to uncooperative people who are just giving them the finger and ignoring them... that doesn't go over well with the great unwashed.
keep on doing what they're doing, but start getting it in peoples faces, on a daily basis...start issuing a press release daily on progress with covid, inflation, the 1/6 investigation...i know they've been making progress, make damn sure EVERYONE knows it

Outside of buying up entire local news/AM radio channels everywhere, as well as national ones and then turning them into Democrat run propaganda enterprises (like the right wing propagandists would like people to believe they have, but for real) and then hire foreign troll farms to push their messaging on a micro level across every social media, have some billionaires fund hand picked political pundits in professor positions, shit even open up a few scam 'universities' to brainwash vulnerable kids into their cult (again like the Republicans pretend is going on now with the Democrats to toss some shade at their own scam), Oh and have some foreign nations break our laws to sell their agenda like the Republicans have been doing, what can the Democrats really do to 'sell' their narrative effectively in any way that would pierce the noise from the right wing troll factories?

Then maybe start to run some unserious attention whores that sell big lies like 'they are going to take your guns' and 'they are communists' and not actually do anything else with their time but sell and fundraise. Nah, I would prefer them stick to doing their jobs and being serious employees of 'We the people'. It is up to us the common people to step up and fill the void that is not really there, but 'feels' like it is due to all the noise that gets pushed to manufacture the fake outrage towards 'the left'.

idk, I left to cook dinner and don't feel like rereading all that shit I wrote, so hopefully it makes sense.

As for the Jan 6th hearings though, they said that there would be a couple weeks worth of them in 2022, which I think times really nicely with the gold fish attention span that we as a society have had lately. Add to that the Bannon hearing being in August 2022, and who knows what else Trump's and his minion's obstruction causes to land in public view right before the election next November, and it might just be a good year for Democrats.

rkymtnman · Dec 8, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
i don't think they're sitting in the corner perfecting the circle jerk...but would it hurt to hire a good marketing firm to raise Biden's approval ratings? because the democrats suck at marketing. it wouldn't hurt them to use the same marketing firm to teach them all some fundamentals of self promotion, and how to counter some of the dirty tricks the republicans use daily. i'm not saying they're doing nothing, i'm saying they aren't doing the right things...they might not lose their majority if they could raise and maintain their approval ratings, if they could counter a few of the republicans dirtier tricks. if they were SEEN to be doing something....to the common people, it looks like they're sitting on their hands, asking silly questions to uncooperative people who are just giving them the finger and ignoring them... that doesn't go over well with the great unwashed.
keep on doing what they're doing, but start getting it in peoples faces, on a daily basis...start issuing a press release daily on progress with covid, inflation, the 1/6 investigation...i know they've been making progress, make damn sure EVERYONE knows it

i think they are kinda stalling to hopefully let inflation and the virus get out of the news cycle (what people are blaming biden for now) and then let the hammer drop on the investigations all thru spring and summer prior to 22 elections.

rkymtnman · Dec 8, 2021

and garland even though a Dem is still an American. he knows all the shit about trump and company and Russia and can't wait to bring it all to life. i'm sure Mueller if given a full page ad in the washington post with no consequences would love to get the truth out there.

CunningCanuk · Dec 8, 2021

DIY-HP-LED said:
This time from Moscow on RT with a Russian script and millions of American suckers hanging on his every word. Vlad's very own 5th column, maybe fox will partner with RT to broadcast his show, so the yokels don't need to search for it on YouTube. No federal charges and he can hop on a plane to Europe, then on to Moscow if he gets wind of NY indicting him. Vlad is pretty cocky and might give him asylum in exchange for making propaganda videos, "I was robbed a political prisoner blah, blah".

He’d still be able to grift most of the trumptards from Russia.

Quintana · Dec 8, 2021

Every time he's charged with a crime that doesn't stick, it only makes his support stronger among his extremist base. Best to thoroughly investigate, ascertain the facts, and present a solid case that will stick that no one can refute.

DIY-HP-LED · Dec 8, 2021

CatHedral said:
I am surprised.

It also inoculates me against the constructionists. If the framers blew something this big, text fundamentalism is unreliable.

The constitution does have many amendments and was written to compromise between north and south in the face of the British. Slavery was very unpopular in Britain, Canada and the northeastern US by the time of the American revolution and outlawed in the Empire by the 1820's. It was settled by the civil war in America when the short comings of the original document became apparent. It was amended to give women the vote in 1920 and another oversight corrected.

Unfortunately this is how some Americans think it was created!

DIY-HP-LED · Dec 8, 2021

CunningCanuk said:
He’d still be able to grift most of the trumptards from Russia.

Unless they block his finances he will. I gotta say if he wanted to run to Moscow to avoid a lot of shit humiliation and prison he has plenty of opportunity until indicted on NY state charges. Vlad has been pretty cocky lately about the Ukraine and using it to avoid sanctions, if he invades, he loses his money stashed in the west, so do his oligarch buddies. Taking in Donald wouldn't result in any sanctions from what I can see, shit Joe might even be secretly delighted!

Imagine, next summer Donald is facing indictment and takes a sudden European holiday, then off to Moscow. He could even make propaganda broadcasts during the election! :lol:

I don't think Vlad would suffer too much for it and having Donald as a prize would be the ultimate achievement for Vlad master spy. He would also control Donald's army of traitors, an enemy 5th column in plain sight. If Donald runs to Russia and leaves the republicans holding the bag before the election, it could make a difference...

Roger A. Shrubber · Dec 8, 2021

rkymtnman said:
i think they are kinda stalling to hopefully let inflation and the virus get out of the news cycle (what people are blaming biden for now) and then let the hammer drop on the investigations all thru spring and summer prior to 22 elections.

i sure as fuck hope so...because at the moment it doesn't seem like they have much of a plan, with sinema still being basically a free agent doing her own thing, manchin cutting private deals with the republicans, the infrastructure bill passed only because of unexpected help from the few sane republicans in existence, and not one democrat seems capable of spinning a fucking top with pictograph instructions...
oh, and by the way @hanimmal , after all this time, do i seem like the kind of person who gets easily duped by propaganda bullshit? i look at whats going on, and make my own decisions, and it sure as shit seems like the democrats don't know how to sell themselves worth a shit, which is really my major problem with them...you have to use your enemies tactics against them, especially the ones that have been proven to work...people are stupid, you have to go low i.q., you have to go gut level to them, you have to appeal to their "feels"...or they'll vote you the fuck out, and right now, the majority of the country "feels" that Biden isn't accomplishing enough...i know he's actually doing a pretty good job, especially against the monumental fuckery of the republicans, but he has to get it in peoples faces, every day, and if it takes buying ad space on every available tv and radio station, do it...get positive Biden ads running during morning drive time, the lunch hour, from 4:30 to 6:30 for the drive home....during football, baseball, soccer matches...at fucking nascar races....on the fucking goodyear blimp...

HGCC · Dec 8, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
@hanimmal , after all this time, do i seem like the kind of person who gets easily duped by propaganda bullshit? i look at whats going on, and make my own decisions, and it sure as shit seems like the democrats don't know how to sell themselves worth a shit, which is really my major problem with them...you have to use your enemies tactics against them, especially the ones that have been proven to work...people are stupid, you have to go low i.q., you have to go gut level to them, you have to appeal to their "feels"...or they'll vote you the fuck out, and right now, the majority of the country "feels" that Biden isn't accomplishing enough...i know he's actually doing a pretty good job, especially against the monumental fuckery of the republicans, but he has to get it in peoples faces, every day, and if it takes buying ad space on every available tv and radio station, do it...get positive Biden ads running during morning drive time, the lunch hour, from 4:30 to 6:30 for the drive home....during football, baseball, soccer matches...at fucking nascar races....on the fucking goodyear blimp...

I was trying to make that point the other day. Idk, it's sort of whatever. Silly example time, but if some guy is walking behind you screaming you eat babies or whatever, you can't just ignore them and carry on with your business trying to take the high road. It ruins your shit. Trying to hit on a chick, tough titties bud no chick for you because some guy is yelling you eat babies. Gotta turn around and kick that guy in the balls. If they are wearing a cup or have no balls, punch them in the face....at the minimum at least get a sign saying "hey I don't eat babies."

Roger A. Shrubber · Dec 8, 2021

HGCC said:
I was trying to make that point the other day. Idk, it's sort of whatever. Silly example time, but if some guy is walking behind you screaming you eat babies or whatever, you can't just ignore them and carry on with your business trying to take the high road. It ruins your shit. Trying to hit on a chick, tough titties bud no chick for you because some guy is yelling you eat babies. Gotta turn around and kick that guy in the balls. If they are wearing a cup or have no balls, punch them in the face....at the minimum at least get a sign saying "hey I don't eat babies."

failure to respond = truth to a lot of people...stupid people, but they do allow stupid people to vote, just look at the current crop of republicans and try to deny that

hanimmal · Dec 9, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
i sure as fuck hope so...because at the moment it doesn't seem like they have much of a plan, with sinema still being basically a free agent doing her own thing, manchin cutting private deals with the republicans, the infrastructure bill passed only because of unexpected help from the few sane republicans in existence, and not one democrat seems capable of spinning a fucking top with pictograph instructions...
oh, and by the way @hanimmal , after all this time, do i seem like the kind of person who gets easily duped by propaganda bullshit? i look at whats going on, and make my own decisions, and it sure as shit seems like the democrats don't know how to sell themselves worth a shit, which is really my major problem with them...you have to use your enemies tactics against them, especially the ones that have been proven to work...people are stupid, you have to go low i.q., you have to go gut level to them, you have to appeal to their "feels"...or they'll vote you the fuck out, and right now, the majority of the country "feels" that Biden isn't accomplishing enough...i know he's actually doing a pretty good job, especially against the monumental fuckery of the republicans, but he has to get it in peoples faces, every day, and if it takes buying ad space on every available tv and radio station, do it...get positive Biden ads running during morning drive time, the lunch hour, from 4:30 to 6:30 for the drive home....during football, baseball, soccer matches...at fucking nascar races....on the fucking goodyear blimp...

Nobody is immune. Our brains are wired in a way that even though we know something is wrong, it can still be overridden by what we 'see'.

Which is why I am pointing out to you and to anyone else who 'feels' like what you say the 'majority of the country does', then step up and call it out for the bullshit it is and not just propagate the nonsense feels blaming the Democratic party who have gotten far more done in less than one year that Trump and the Republicans did in 4.

Also just saying that they are not responding is more of what I am talking about. If you think that Biden and the Democrats have not been out there selling their shit with ads, speeches, and actual actions, I would suggest you are wrong. Because I have seen them daily.

It is just that the noise is drowning it out because they don't own every aspect of the multiple forms of media to generate nice little propaganda bubbles. And that is what I am talking about.

Roger A. Shrubber · Dec 9, 2021

hanimmal said:
Nobody is immune. Our brains are wired in a way that even though we know something is wrong, it can still be overridden by what we 'see'.

Which is why I am pointing out to you and to anyone else who 'feels' like what you say the 'majority of the country does', then step up and call it out for the bullshit it is and not just propagate the nonsense feels blaming the Democratic party who have gotten far more done in less than one year that Trump and the Republicans did in 4.

Also just saying that they are not responding is more of what I am talking about. If you think that Biden and the Democrats have not been out there selling their shit with ads, speeches, and actual actions, I would suggest you are wrong. Because I have seen them daily.

It is just that the noise is drowning it out because they don't own every aspect of the multiple forms of media to generate nice little propaganda bubbles. And that is what I am talking about.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/1062453165/npr-marist-poll-biden-democrats-infrastructure-build-back-better

are the folks at NPR brainwashed? because they say just about the same thing i've been saying...democrats are shitty at marketing themsleves...

hanimmal · Dec 9, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/1062453165/npr-marist-poll-biden-democrats-infrastructure-build-back-better

are the folks at NPR brainwashed? because they say just about the same thing i've been saying...democrats are shitty at marketing themsleves...

Are you asking if NPR asking a question to a bunch of brainwashed people makes them brainwashed? Likely.

Of course Democrats are shitty at marketing, they don't have entire cable channels, AM radio stations, local television broadcasting, chinese cultist news papers to replace all the local ones that were bought up and shut down, and foreign dictator troll content flooding every method of communication like the Republicans have.

That is why people who understand the attack on our nation should step up to fill the void and push back on these bullshit narratives and the Democrats who are elected into office can do the work we need from them.

Roger A. Shrubber · Dec 9, 2021

hanimmal said:
Which is why I am pointing out to you and to anyone else who 'feels' like what you say the 'majority of the country does', then step up and call it out for the bullshit it is and not just propagate the nonsense feels blaming the Democratic party who have gotten far more done in less than one year that Trump and the Republicans did in 4.

trump and the republicans live, breath, and shit marketing...they know how to make a message stick in your head. it's hardly ever a healthy message, it's hardly ever the truth, but they can sell themselves much better than democrats can, or we wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation.

hanimmal said:
It is just that the noise is drowning it out because they don't own every aspect of the multiple forms of media to generate nice little propaganda bubbles. And that is what I am talking about.

THEN GET FUCKING LOUDER...republicans don't own every aspect of the multiple forms of media, either, but they know how to take advantage of it much better than democrats....and that is what i am talking about

not everyone who doesn't agree with you is a brainwashed zombie, allowing themselves to be used by the enemy...perhaps sometimes things ARE what they appear to be, and democrats suck at selling themselves to their target markets...

Roger A. Shrubber · Dec 9, 2021

hanimmal said:
That is why people who understand the attack on our nation should step up to fill the void and push back on these bullshit narratives and the Democrats who are elected into office can do the work we need from them.

who exactly would that be? because it doesn't seem to be the democrats?
go ahead and laugh at me, it might give you something to do besides not provide any answer to the questions i'm asking

hanimmal · Dec 9, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
trump and the republicans live, breath, and shit marketing...they know how to make a message stick in your head. it's hardly ever a healthy message, it's hardly ever the truth, but they can sell themselves much better than democrats can, or we wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation.

Yeah because they are unserious trolls breaking the laws of our nation to try to maintain power.

Roger A. Shrubber said:
THEN GET FUCKING LOUDER...republicans don't won every aspect of the multiple forms of media, either, but they know how to take advantage of it much better than democrats....and that is what i am talking about

not everyone who doesn't agree with you is a brainwashed zombie, allowing themselves to be used by the enemy...perhaps sometimes things ARE what they appear to be, and democrats suck at selling themselves to their target markets...

You get louder minus the snow flaking is my suggestion.

Roger A. Shrubber said:
who exactly would that be? because it doesn't seem to be the democrats?

You, whoever is reading this and thinks like you do should be stepping up and anytime you hear someone who has sounded like you have, or any of the other accounts here saying this kind of 'Democrats need to do more' nonsense and call it out for the bullshit it is.

We saw this in 2010 with the Tea Party nonsense, if people don't learn from it, that is on them. There is nothing that the Democrats will be able to do to overcome the noise factory that the Republicans have been building for the last 30 years.

mooray · Dec 9, 2021

The trend is heading towards the "Ow My Balls" method of advertising with a tiny window surrounded by flashing garbage, and the flashing garbage is what works, because we're idiots. You can't compete with it by using logical reasoning, because that's just boring. You have to essentially do the same thing if you want to capture the attention of idiots, but it's a catch 22, because only idiots use that method. It's the same tale we've seen a thousand times; one person is doing the flashy dance and gets all the attention, while one is measured and logical and receives very little attention. People follow the flashy dance person and eventually, painfully, find that it leads nowhere, then realize the logical approach is what they should have chosen in the first place. They just got caught up in the moment, blah blah blah, same old shit. It's simply the way it must be. The answer has never been that, shit + more shit = awesome.

DIY-HP-LED · Dec 9, 2021

mooray said:
The trend is heading towards the "Ow My Balls" method of advertising with a tiny window surrounded by flashing garbage, and the flashing garbage is what works, because we're idiots. You can't compete with it by using logical reasoning, because that's just boring. You have to essentially do the same thing if you want to capture the attention of idiots, but it's a catch 22, because only idiots use that method. It's the same tale we've seen a thousand times; one person is doing the flashy dance and gets all the attention, while one is measured and logical and receives very little attention. People follow the flashy dance person and eventually, painfully, find that it leads nowhere, then realize the logical approach is what they should have chosen in the first place. They just got caught up in the moment, blah blah blah, same old shit. It's simply the way it must be. The answer has never been that, shit + more shit = awesome.

Unlike when we seek to entertain and educate, when we seek to titillate, we always need to up the stakes. Most people are lead around by the nose, by their egos, subconscious forces, conditioning, peer pressure and instinctive propensities. A comforting lie is more acceptable to many than an inconvenient truth and confirming what people already believe is far easier and more profitable than changing their minds.

The right has an easy ride because the way was paved by historic bigotry and now social tribalism featuring "culture wars" as a way to manipulate the yokels to fuck themselves again. They use the for profit domestic disinformation system lead by Foxnews and hate AM rural radio to create an alternative reality and sow distrust of government and institutions, the narrative they present might as well be written in Moscow.

smokinrav · Dec 11, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
democrats are the biggest fucking time wasters on the planet, and it WILL end up costing them the house, the senate, and probably the whitehouse....they need to GET THE FUCK OFF THEIR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING....goddamn it people, you have a limited window, lets not form a committee to pick a fucking window washing company before we actually do anything...

Can't upvote this enough. Dems seem to have learned NOTHING from Obama's first term. But now there's Manchin and Sinema.

Don't mind me as I pound my head against a wall. There's a couple of free spots left to join me...

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