MDMA (Molly / ecstasy) prices?

Kervork

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Too much of everything is too much for me.

So, 180 to 200 mg was probably too much you're saying?

Where's that counfounded milligram scale when you need it.
 

rory420420

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I honestly haven't either..I lick my thumb and stick it in the bag..or chop up a line a zoot it..but 200mg isn't bad for an initial dose for a casual user...
 

rory420420

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Lol..I have this 'incremental' friend who weighs out lines of coke and then writes down the time and weight consumed..I told him he can't be enjoying that..too much fuss for another line...lol
 

MrEDuck

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I honestly haven't either..I lick my thumb and stick it in the bag..or chop up a line a zoot it..but 200mg isn't bad for an initial dose for a casual user...
With good stuff I'd suggest 125-150mg. If you're getting 80% salt then 150-200mg is the right dose range.

Lol..I have this 'incremental' friend who weighs out lines of coke and then writes down the time and weight consumed..I told him he can't be enjoying that..too much fuss for another line...lol
I like to measure my doses with most drugs and often take notes with new ones.
 

boedhaspeaks

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Lol..I have this 'incremental' friend who weighs out lines of coke and then writes down the time and weight consumed..I told him he can't be enjoying that..too much fuss for another line...lol
Meantime ill hold his coke and i promise i wont sniff when hes writing.
 

rory420420

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Duck at 84% ill still take 2 tenths...its just my brain doesn't recognize mdma like when I was a younger guy.I need to slap my brain in the face to actually roll good..its the downfall of heavy use at an early age...
I usually comment to myself about new drugs and keep thoughts,but I really want to experience the drug fully,and feel like taking notes would take away from the experience..but that's just me..I know you and that def seems like a 'ritual' you'd partake in...
 

Skuxx

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I like to measure my doses with most drugs and often take notes with new ones.
I've taken notes on trips before, thinking it would help me remember those "epiphany" moments... but when reviewing them, it's always something ridiculous like, "be careful what you wish for." Taking notes for new substances isn't a bad idea. It probably would have saved me from needing to try them 5-6 times before remembering what the effects are like.
 

Impman

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That is fascinating to me that MrEDuck takes notes with new drugs and measures doses correctly. It is fascinating on a couple levels, one being that, personally, I have never had access to a variety of drugs at all. There are very limited choices where I am from and to get something new would be so rare that it would not be forgot. And two, that is a very healthy and intelligent thing to do. Its not like we get a million bodies to play with throughout our lives. Journaling is a great thing to do , I need to start one... I am inspired
 

rory420420

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I'm not knocking the practice,I've just come to know how much of what to take..as far as taking notes,I can't usually cause I'm busy having fun,or I'm too fucked up..but calibrated minds like duck find note taking and such,enjoyable...perhaps I could be the 'drugged up spider monkey' and someone could take notes on me..I've allways had a secret desire to be a 'test subject' for drugs..but only psychedelics..not gonna take any drug that will cause erectile disfunction or anal leakage..
 

Skuxx

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I've always wanted someone to dose me up without me knowing. Maybe tell me that it's going to happen... but don't tell me when it's going to happen. Being a test subject would be cool too. I wouldn't like being trapped in a room and having to answer tons of questions and whatnot
 

rory420420

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No questions just observations..and come hang with me skuxx.well throw a party and play 'beer can roulette'...
 

Skuxx

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Haha I remember you mentioning that. Seems like a load of fun. And I would imagine observing me tripping would be boring.... "He's been sitting there for 3 hours inhaling nitrous.... going between having a huge grin, and a look of astonishment on his face."... "he's attempting to roll a joint now." "He gave up and is going for the bong". Nah actually if I knew I was being observed, I'd make it entertaining.
 

rory420420

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'Subject seems complacent..keeps asking for water and more drugs...very interested in shiny objects and breasts.massive intake of cannabis is a required regime every 15 mins or so for the subject or else the subject goes on rants about 'government conspiracies'..also subject keeps refering to himself as 'hoffmans little white mouse'....'
 

MrEDuck

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Duck at 84% ill still take 2 tenths...its just my brain doesn't recognize mdma like when I was a younger guy.I need to slap my brain in the face to actually roll good..its the downfall of heavy use at an early age...
I usually comment to myself about new drugs and keep thoughts,but I really want to experience the drug fully,and feel like taking notes would take away from the experience..but that's just me..I know you and that def seems like a 'ritual' you'd partake in...
First off fuck this 84% Dutch bullshit! MDMA is sold and consumed as the HCl salt, relative purity should reflect this. Maybe for a drug like morphine or mescaline where multiple salts are common it could be useful.
On a mg/kg basis my 150mg of 98%+ Duck Grade MDMA is like 350mg for you. It's not a linear relationship between dose and body mass. And my tolerance has gone way the fuck down. I had to take a few years off to be able to really roll without needing reckless doses. I may start with 200mg next time. I wish my wife hadn't suffered traumatic experiences on MDMA. I need a local rolling buddy.
Can't you just picture a duck in a labcoat and goggles with pupils the size of dimes furiously jotting down notes in a lab notebook about simaltaneously being zero and infinity (this is the meditative focus that works best for me to experience ego death and experience oneness with everything and nothing)? Because that's pretty much how it looks.

I'm beginning to think I like 2C-B a fuck lot better.
I'm really hoping its something my wife can enjoy. Tripping seems to involve spending the day in bed and those tactile effects are awesome. I wish we had more time to explore together. I need to find a psychonaut buddy who is free during the week. Preferably who is a cute female.

I've taken notes on trips before, thinking it would help me remember those "epiphany" moments... but when reviewing them, it's always something ridiculous like, "be careful what you wish for." Taking notes for new substances isn't a bad idea. It probably would have saved me from needing to try them 5-6 times before remembering what the effects are like.
But you need to make sure your experiments are reproducible.
I find the more nonsensical epiphanies in the notes the better the substance usually. Just because what was written makes no sense doesn't mean there's no useful data present.
That is fascinating to me that MrEDuck takes notes with new drugs and measures doses correctly. It is fascinating on a couple levels, one being that, personally, I have never had access to a variety of drugs at all. There are very limited choices where I am from and to get something new would be so rare that it would not be forgot. And two, that is a very healthy and intelligent thing to do. Its not like we get a million bodies to play with throughout our lives. Journaling is a great thing to do , I need to start one... I am inspired
Glad to be inspiring. If it wasn't for people taking trip notes F&L in LV would never have been written!
But even if it's a note of what you took and when and approx come up, peak, and come down duration with a few retrospective notes added it can really help you to get to know a substance.
 
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