Massive Matters Too Big To Ripen?

The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Okay here's the problem,my mother in law is polish and grows tomatoes in a green house in the garden (she grown veg for years and just got into toms).
The toms grow quite big (6 inches accross the top is standard) before they fall from the vine,because they have become too heavy before they have fully ripend they are still green and hard near the middle.
I would like to know how to stop them dropping before being ready.
She picks very good toms every morning but just the larger ones have this problem and it really frustrates her because a little longer and they would be amazing,early they're nearly a waste.
She was told by her sister to water them less but this she finds makes little difference,any suggestions?
 
Dinosaur Bone

Dinosaur Bone

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Sounds like the "Sicilian Giant Saucer" strain I am growing. {They haven't achieved head sized world record glory YET... }

I am thinking a ScReen O' Green scheme might do the trick. Just almost sorta kinda like a SCROG in the basement. I am totally planning on rigging something up next year. The "vines" would grow above the screen, and can be trained {tied} to grow along the screen. I am guessing she likes indeterminates.... and instead of indetermining 6ft tall or more... they are tied down at a level she can deal with. The screen would support the vines instead of cages, stick pyramids and so forth. AND when the tomato's get big'ish slip them above the screen so they rest on it.

OR better yet, multiple screens about 18" apart, so there are 3 different levels. Thats kinda what I am thinking of rigging up next year.

Heres a couple unique tomato's she might like next year.... Voyage.. grows a conjoined cluster of grape tomato's, and "Sausage" paste tomato that looks like a big fat pepper. This year they got big and fat, about 5 times the size of an average Roma paste tomato.

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lazaah

lazaah

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put up some bamboo stakes behind it and tell her to get her old panty hose out and make them hammocks, aslong as it not a heavy cropper its easy enough to stay on top of. Just my idea, never done it
 
Buddy_Williams

Buddy_Williams

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Alright waay late with this one man (sorry), if the plant is relatively small. Treat it as if it was MJ. And yes I mean things like LST, pinching, supercropping will ALL be beneficial to the 'mater's. If done periodically throughout, those stems'll be very strong able to support those softball-sized tomatoes :D

Rock on,
, be ready for a PM from me....pictures will follow.

Buddy_Williams
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Dinosaur Bone said:
Sounds like the "Sicilian Giant Saucer" strain I am growing. {They haven't achieved head sized world record glory YET... }

I am thinking a ScReen O' Green scheme might do the trick. Just almost sorta kinda like a SCROG in the basement. I am totally planning on rigging something up next year. The "vines" would grow above the screen, and can be trained {tied} to grow along the screen. I am guessing she likes indeterminates.... and instead of indetermining 6ft tall or more... they are tied down at a level she can deal with. The screen would support the vines instead of cages, stick pyramids and so forth. AND when the tomato's get big'ish slip them above the screen so they rest on it.

OR better yet, multiple screens about 18" apart, so there are 3 different levels. Thats kinda what I am thinking of rigging up next year.

Heres a couple unique tomato's she might like next year.... Voyage.. grows a conjoined cluster of grape tomato's, and "Sausage" paste tomato that looks like a big fat pepper. This year they got big and fat, about 5 times the size of an average Roma paste tomato.

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Cheers Bone, Just the logical ticket scrog!
Do you know of a veriety that is resistant to cold so she can maybe plant them out a month or 2 earlier?
 
Dinosaur Bone

Dinosaur Bone

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The only way to go early is with water wall's, mulching, cloche's {sorta like a humidity dome}, cold frames and so forth. The shorter season Tomato's from Siberia, are good for getting tomato's picked early.. but not for starting early. Starting indoors, early and getting the plants slightly big would help.

Tomato's Clone easily :wink: You could get her on the mother plant and clone thing.... Clones taken off of a somewhat established tomato plant just about to flower, should in theory start setting fruit a LOT sooner after taking outside. And to shorten the "hardening".. blast them with a UV-B reptile lamp, and get some nice trichomes developed.. Thats how I am doing it next year. Tomato's cloned from a "Mother Tree", that are a week away from flower set the day I put them out.

PS. I dont know how the frowney red face got at the top..
 
Jesushasdreads

Jesushasdreads

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Dinosaur Bone said:
Sounds like the "Sicilian Giant Saucer" strain I am growing. {They haven't achieved head sized world record glory YET... }

I am thinking a ScReen O' Green scheme might do the trick. Just almost sorta kinda like a SCROG in the basement. I am totally planning on rigging something up next year. The "vines" would grow above the screen, and can be trained {tied} to grow along the screen. I am guessing she likes indeterminates.... and instead of indetermining 6ft tall or more... they are tied down at a level she can deal with. The screen would support the vines instead of cages, stick pyramids and so forth. AND when the tomato's get big'ish slip them above the screen so they rest on it.

OR better yet, multiple screens about 18" apart, so there are 3 different levels. Thats kinda what I am thinking of rigging up next year.

Heres a couple unique tomato's she might like next year.... Voyage.. grows a conjoined cluster of grape tomato's, and "Sausage" paste tomato that looks like a big fat pepper. This year they got big and fat, about 5 times the size of an average Roma paste tomato.

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those look like mutant tomatos!
 
atomicronick

atomicronick

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...these Trailer Park Boys avatars are killing me....lol.....they film almost soley in my hometown.....lmfao......too funny man.
 
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