Mars Hydro or Spider Farmer?

After doing a little bit of research I've narrowed my choices down to these 2 brands for my small tent (3x3). I'm currently using a Phlizon 900 watt LED light (100 true watts) that I got on Amazon but I want to be able to add a couple more plants in my tent and don't feel like 1 light is sufficient enough.

Any suggestions on which one to go with would be so helpful. I'm also not opposed to sticking with what I have now and adding another one of the same Phlizon lights I have ...but I want to go with whatever light is best for my setup/space. I'm pretty green to growing green (2nd grow...1st in 10 years).

Also, I'm sticking to LED's because I am going to try and do it without using an intake fan/filter... My temp right now is 70 degrees and I have humidity under control with a dehumidifier.

Honestly, you might want to look at some of these Alibaba boards. same drivers but spaced farther off the back of the board, same diodes, thicker aluminum plate, cheaper by half at least. Hard to tell the difference eh?

both are good yet trash in my eyes. im currently using the spider farm sf 2000 yes im happy ish with it but honestly i think they run way too hot and should have fans mounted on them. i can not run mine with out fans on it with out seeing stupidly high temps on the heat sink and driver. on saying id stay away from mars and still stick with spider farm. you could but hgl if you are rich or if its cheap in your country. just my 2cents on what i think about the lights

outsiders said:

both are good yet trash in my eyes. im currently using the spider farm sf 2000 yes im happy ish with it but honestly i think they run way too hot and should have fans mounted on them. i can not run mine with out fans on it with out seeing stupidly high temps on the heat sink and driver. on saying id stay away from mars and still stick with spider farm. you could but hgl if you are rich or if its cheap in your country. just my 2cents on what i think about the lights

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I bought HLG but I'm definitely not rich. Lights are one thing I don't skimp on though.

Mars is trash. If those are your only 2 choices get the SF

bk78 said:

Mars is trash. If those are your only 2 choices get the SF

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I heard they're actually the same company on another thread on here. The Spider looks nicer though.

It seems like Spider Farmer is the new Mars.
Flashy marketing and suspect products.

outsiders said:

both are good yet trash in my eyes. im currently using the spider farm sf 2000 yes im happy ish with it but honestly i think they run way too hot and should have fans mounted on them. i can not run mine with out fans on it with out seeing stupidly high temps on the heat sink and driver. on saying id stay away from mars and still stick with spider farm. you could but hgl if you are rich or if its cheap in your country. just my 2cents on what i think about the lights

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Thanks. Attached are pictures of my current light. They do have 2 fans which is nice and keeps them relatively cool.

PadawanWarrior said:

I bought HLG but I'm definitely not rich. Lights are one thing I don't skimp on though.

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sp 2000 for me cost $400 hgl would of cost two times that with a back order of 3 months lol sometimes its more the matter of whats available

Tannerwilliams919 said:

Thanks. Attached are pictures of my current light. They do have 2 fans which is nice and keeps them relatively cool.

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never buy a pink light in 2020 should be illegal to even sell them now days

What would be my best option to supplement my current light then if not Mars or Spider? 3x3 tent and I want to keep heat (and true wattage) down as much as possible. If money wasn't an issue what would you put in there?

outsiders said:

never buy a pink light in 2020 should be illegal to even sell them now days

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Sorry, again I'm not very versed with lights. What is wrong with a pink light? Why should one avoid it? There are 2 switches on this light : one for veg and one for flower stage. With both switched on it is more white looking. Since I'm doing autos I have both switched on at 24/0 schedule.

Overall, the plants will grow as long as your supplying photons in 400-700nm range.
Blurples will grow dank. They just aren't as efficient at converting watts of electricity into photons of light.
You're using 9 sq ft of canopy. A simple metric to determine how 'much' would be this:
50 watts/sq ft using HID or blurples.
30 watts/sq ft using top-tier diodes like those used in QB's or light strips.
450 watts of blurples or 270 watts of good diodes.

bk78 said:

Mars is trash. If those are your only 2 choices get the SF

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They're really not. If they'd just lose the 1:1 3000k:5000k ratio ofvdiodes and use3:1 or even zero and just 3500k with the added reds, it would flower so much better. But they want it to be a full cycle light, so I understand their reasoning. All SMD board/strip style fixtures you see on Amazon nowadays bare all thatvstupid 1:1 ratio.

TOO MUCH BLUE!!!

Airwalker16 said:

They're really not. If they'd just lose the 1:1 3000k:5000k ratio ofvdiodes and use3:1 or even zero and just 3500k with the added reds, it would flower so much better. But they want it to be a full cycle light, so I understand their reasoning. All SMD board/strip style fixtures you see on Amazon nowadays bare all thatvstupid 1:1 ratio.

TOO MUCH BLUE!!!

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You still trying to get more free lights homie?

bk78 said:

You still trying to get more free lights homie?

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Lol,no man just saying they're really fairly bright fixtures. They could use some tweaks and are a bit too pricey, but aren't horrible for sure.

After doing some more research, I decided to step it up a bit, bit the bullet, and ordered a HLG 300L for my 3x3x6 tent. Hopefully this will be plenty for 2-3 plants.

Tannerwilliams919 said:

After doing some more research, I decided to step it up a bit, bit the bullet, and ordered a HLG 300L for my 3x3x6 tent. Hopefully this will be plenty for 2-3 plants.

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Will do a fantastic job. Great choice.

Airwalker16 said:

Will do a fantastic job. Great choice.

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Thanks man! I appreciate that. A little scary taking a leap and spending that much $ but no point in doing this if I can't grow the high quality stuff like I'm wanting to!

Tannerwilliams919 said:

After doing some more research, I decided to step it up a bit, bit the bullet, and ordered a HLG 300L for my 3x3x6 tent. Hopefully this will be plenty for 2-3 plants.

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The sf 3000 for 3x3 will crush your grows find the the right height and percentage on dimmer. I have 2 tent a 3x3 mars hydro and 2x4 ac infinity. I think the MH is better quality and the led in my 2x4 is the MH TSw 2000 for 2x4 tent I’ve haven’t bought from dispo in months but when I’m low or dry and curing I’ll hit the dispo but once I smoke my own it like night and day from that hydro trash. NJ sells. Yes I’m gonna buy the Migro led for my 2x4 cause I turn it into a living soil bed tent I made a pvc and filter fabric pot that is the size of tent and man I’m on year3 of running plant in same soil just cover crop and some top dressing here and there. I even transplant right next to old stump from last grow and the new roots eat it all up. The terps are better the buds are stronger only difference is yields. I don’t yield as much as when I was salt and petroleum feeding my medicine. I’ll take a few grams less and have quality knowing that I’m the only o e who touched my herb is a great feeling. ESPECIALLY when u crush a grow and take cuts.