Marc Emery, "Prince of pot"... Busted!

strangerdude562

Well-Known Member
If it's illegal and he's not harming anybody or forcing anyone to do anything, where is the punishabe crime? Where is the victim?

You obviously don't know anything about law, take criminal justice 101 and you will understand. You do not have to harm anyone or have a victim for it to be crime. I do believe there are victims and the victims are the communities where these seeds were grown and sold by criminal drug dealers.
 

Xeno420

Active Member
It is a VICTIMLESS crime. The real crime is we are not free. Our first President woud be imprisoned today over weed.

"Make the most you can of the Indian hemp seed and sow it everywhere" - George Washington
Exerpts taken from: http://www.funnyordie.com/blog/posts/16235

It's hard not to love everything about this story and I have to give ultimate kudos to the folks at Huffington Post for unearthing these quotes, so I think we should all sit back with our pipes and enjoy these words from the early leaders of our country. If you find one, leave a comment and I'll add some of the best in:


"Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica." - Abraham Lincoln (from a letter written by Lincoln during his presidency to the head of the Hohner Harmonica Company in Germany)

"Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth&protection of the country."
- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President

"Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."
- George Washington, U.S. President

"We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption."
- John Adams, U.S. President

"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself; and where they are, they should be changed. Nowhere is this more clear than in the laws against possession of marihuana in private for personal use... Therefore, I support legislation amending Federal law to eliminate all Federal criminal penalties for the possession of up to one ounce of marihuana." - Jimmy Carter, U.S. President

"I inhaled frequently. That was the point." - Barack Obama, U.S. President

"The war on drugs has been an utter failure. We need to rethink and decriminalize our nation's marijuana laws." -Barack Obama, January 2004

"The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world." - Carl Sagan, renown scientist, astronomer, astrochemist, author and TV host

"Why use up the forests which were centuries in the making and the mines which required ages to lay down, if we can get the equivalent of forest and mineral products in the annual growth of the hemp fields?" - Henry Ford, whose first Model-T was constructed from hemp fibers and built to run on hemp gasoline

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bound of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded" -Abraham Lincoln

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." - Albert Einstein quote on Hemp

"That is not a drug. It's a leaf." - Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California

Let's end with a quote from one of the most clueless U.S. Presidents, who evidently thought of himself as an authority on cannabis:

"I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast" - Ronald Reagan
h/t: Robbie Gennet
 

Dolce Vita

Active Member
Maybe if we get the right people behind this, it will result in legalization in canada and america. i think this would require Johnnie Cochran to be his lawyer and it would need to go the the supreme court, but i think marc emery is the pinnacle of the debate and whatever the result of this is, will effect our cause.
 

Dolce Vita

Active Member
You obviously don't know anything about law, take criminal justice 101 and you will understand. You do not have to harm anyone or have a victim for it to be crime. I do believe there are victims and the victims are the communities where these seeds were grown and sold by criminal drug dealers.
yes, this is true for civil law, not common law. and we can only have civil law imposed upon us if we consent to it.
 

Dolce Vita

Active Member
if it can be proved that what he did either A-causes injury B- causes harm or C-causes loss then he is subject to common law. it sounds like he already consented to civil law though
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
You obviously don't know anything about law, take criminal justice 101 and you will understand. You do not have to harm anyone or have a victim for it to be crime. I do believe there are victims and the victims are the communities where these seeds were grown and sold by criminal drug dealers.

Take Criminal Justice 101 and then I'll understand? I don't think you understand my point.
I'm not talking about whether or not the law exists, I'm saying the law is wrong. I'm talking morality. Slavery was once legal in this country, that didn't mean it was ever morally right.

You state "you do not have to harm anyone or have a victim for it to be a crime". Well, No shit. Isn't THAT a problem for you? Should I say, You obviously don't know anything about morality?

When people that harm nobody are "criminals" it's time to shit can some laws. But enforcing unjust laws provides for lots of jobs for cops or bureaucrats eh?
 

ten feet!

Member
I do believe there are victims and the victims are the communities where these seeds were grown and sold by criminal drug dealers.

:confused:

Are you serious?:spew:



If so, who do you feel it is in those communities that has suffered any direct or even indirect negative impact because there were a few pot plants being grown in their area?
 

strangerdude562

Well-Known Member
:confused:

Are you serious?:spew:



If so, who do you feel it is in those communities that has suffered any direct or even indirect negative impact because there were a few pot plants being grown in their area?

Marijuana has nothing to do with it, It's the type of environment that is created by the drug dealers. When drugs and money are involved violent crimes will surely be committed.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Marijuana has nothing to do with it, It's the type of environment that is created by the drug dealers. When drugs and money are involved violent crimes will surely be committed.

Well then maybe we ought to be arresting people in Pfizer, Bayer, Johnson & Johnson, GlaxoSmithKline, Hoffman- LaRoche and others since I am sure they are making way more money than Marc Emery ever dreamed possible.
 

Xeno420

Active Member
marc emery acts like a douche anyways. he is helping people by helping himself to millions haha.
But he invests over 2.5 million of that a year to campain... pro-cannabis. Who cares if he is helping himself, this is why he is a businessman but he wants this shit to just be legal and not have to watch for police on his back or our back for that matter.
 

ten feet!

Member
Marijuana has nothing to do with it, It's the type of environment that is created by the drug dealers. When drugs and money are involved violent crimes will surely be committed.

Whats that got to do with arresting the guy for selling seeds? The folks who bought seeds from him were growers not violent thugs or gangsters nor were they trying to turn the children of their communities into mindless walking zombies.:finger:
 

casegrower

Active Member
The DEA has no business being in my country. They can fuck right off. Marc emery never commited any crimes in the states, the Canadian government has no law against selling seeds.So why as a country are we even allowing this shit.
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
But he invests over 2.5 million of that a year to campain... pro-cannabis.
And that's why he's busted and nobody else is. He fought the system instead of staying under the radar. It'll work out just fine for him though, I'm sure the money from the movie deal alone (you know there will be one) will pay off his jail time.
 
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