Maple sap in aact?

Pattahabi

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This is what MicrobeMan has to say about molasses replacements:

I’m continually getting this question. What can I use as a replacement for molasses?
Many people assume that molasses is just sugar and propose using various forms of sugar in its stead. This may actually work to some extent, however black strap molasses is a complex carbohydrate bearing lots of minerals and nutrients plus it is a powerful antioxidant. [some nutrient companies will happily sell you a bottle of carbo this or carbo that when it is actually just molasses, in some cases watered down]

I’m not saying there are not other foodstocks which can be used to feed bacteria/archaea and fungi. Heck, you can grow out some bacteria with potato water or rice water.

What I am saying is that black strap molasses works for the simple process of multiplying bacteria/archaea & fungi so why fret about using something else? If you are somewhere that you cannot get any, then by all means try something different or if you have a scope, go ahead and experiment.

I guess if I was stuck without molasses, I’d try wheat bran.


So, in theory sounds like it would work. The problem is without a scope you'll have to wing it. Depends on what side of the fence you sit on imo.

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AllenHaze

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Yea, thanks. I'm just sitting on some and am sure it will suit my purposes but I was wondering if anyone had used it before. It's stuff called maple water. It's just maple sap in a bottle. :joint: One concern that I have is that there may be chemicals present in the sap that are used by the tree to suppress nearby vegetative growth or that have other harmful effects on cannabis. For example, Black Walnut secrete such compounds. Am I set? :D:D
 

greasemonkeymann

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Yea, thanks. I'm just sitting on some and am sure it will suit my purposes but I was wondering if anyone had used it before. It's stuff called maple water. It's just maple sap in a bottle. :joint: One concern that I have is that there may be chemicals present in the sap that are used by the tree to suppress nearby vegetative growth or that have other harmful effects on cannabis. For example, Black Walnut secrete such compounds. Am I set? :D:D
one thing I like about molasses is all the micronutrients, not to mention potassium, but if you are using it for just an aact, you could get the "job" done with just maple syrup, personally all I've ever used is molasses, primarily because the one gallon jug I got is lasted forever, and I have about half of it left. I like all the micronutrients that blackstrap has.
You can get a bottle for like ten bucks
 

Abiqua

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Yea, thanks. I'm just sitting on some and am sure it will suit my purposes but I was wondering if anyone had used it before. It's stuff called maple water. It's just maple sap in a bottle. :joint: One concern that I have is that there may be chemicals present in the sap that are used by the tree to suppress nearby vegetative growth or that have other harmful effects on cannabis. For example, Black Walnut secrete such compounds. Am I set? :D:D
Jugalone is the chemical from walnuts, nasty stuff.

Nutritionally the sap water will have minerals, particularly K and Zinc. It is feeding the tree after all. Also includes organic acids and aromatic volatile compounds, which both may or not exhibit anti-bacterial or antibiotic properties.

Both are mainly composed of a sucrose a dissaccharide but both also contain significant amounts of glucose and fructose which are both mono- sugars. Bl molasses is just the third boiling of the raw sugar cane.

Can't argue with the molasses argument and cooking probably helps guarantee a better product that's more stable for longer shelf life and reduced sugars probably help microlife attack and use it faster in a tea.

So using a "wild" product has to rely probably a great deal on the indigenous organisms that are living on or around the tree [epiphyte, epiphytic, etc.] for a reduction of sugars to have the great success.

This seems to be blackstrap's greatest strength in that a number of different organisms [bacteris, fungi, actinomycetes] are able to use the sugar source more efficienctly because of the stabalization of the sugars in the raw cane.

You might have just as great as success [dare to say, even better?] with the raw sap though too, but it might be more dependent on conditions that excel for bacteria or microlife living near the tree itself. Those conditions might depend a great deal on things like time, temp, pH etc. although again malic acid tends to be a natural presvative and levels which will vary, may increase or decrease such effect. :peace:
 

AllenHaze

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one thing I like about molasses is all the micronutrients, not to mention potassium, but if you are using it for just an aact, you could get the "job" done with just maple syrup, personally all I've ever used is molasses, primarily because the one gallon jug I got is lasted forever, and I have about half of it left. I like all the micronutrients that blackstrap has.
You can get a bottle for like ten bucks
You might have just as great as success [dare to say, even better?] with the raw sap though too, but it might be more dependent on conditions that excel for bacteria or microlife living near the tree itself. Those conditions might depend a great deal on things like time, temp, pH etc. although again malic acid tends to be a natural presvative and levels which will vary, may increase or decrease such effect. :peace:
It's pure maple syrup so I thought because it was essentially the "lifeblood" of the tree, perhaps if there were no obstacles; metabolic, hormonal, etc, it would work well in place of BSt.
Good stuff. Thanks. :)
 
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