Man and Machine

Man invents machine.
Man keeps improving machine for thousands of years.
Man improved machine so much that it has virtual intelligence, and can manufacture itself (reproduce).
Man dies off.
Machine keeps improving itself and lives on...

I ask you, is not that machine a form of life?

What is passed on from man to machine in the process, other than intelligence? Ultimately, if man taught machine everything man knows, and man died off, and machine learned more, then machine smarter than man!

I would say that the two basic requisites of life are
1) self-replication capacity (with multiplication), and
2) the capacity to concentrate adaptive qualities (in short, to evolve).

Once we've built true von Neumann machines and shown that they can thrive in an unprepared environment, the premise for your scenario is in place ... but not until then. We aren't even close. cn

And to think I grew up thinking Pong was High Tech lmfao

Neo won't let this happen. Fuck the Machines!
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cannabineer said:

I would say that the two basic requisites of life are
1) self-replication capacity (with multiplication), and
2) the capacity to concentrate adaptive qualities (in short, to evolve).

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According to your requisites, the universe is a form of life. So too is a solar system, a galaxy, and the earth-moon system. I agree!

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Seedling said:

According to your requisites, the universe is a form of life. So too is a solar system, a galaxy, and the earth-moon system. I agree!

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I don't agree. None of the objects or groupings you've mentioned can replicate or accrue adaptations. cn

cannabineer said:

I don't agree. None of the objects or groupings you've mentioned can replicate or accrue adaptations. cn

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why? are they democrats?

cannabineer said:

I don't agree. None of the objects or groupings you've mentioned can replicate or accrue adaptations. cn

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I disagree. A galaxy adapts to a broader spectrum of volume (space) than any form of life on this planet does. A solar system is constantly adapting to the changing environment in which it resides. The earth itself is a form of life. It evolves like all the objects in the multiverse do.

Seedling said:

I disagree. A galaxy adapts to a broader spectrum of volume (space) than any form of life on this planet does. A solar system is constantly adapting to the changing environment in which it resides. The earth itself is a form of life. It evolves like all the objects in the multiverse do.

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The earth does not meet the definitions. Imo you are doing what you like to do ... contort semantics. It takes the fun out of debate. cn

cannabineer said:

The earth does not meet the definitions. Imo you are doing what you like to do ... contort semantics. It takes the fun out of debate. cn

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Why, because it doesn't play by your rules? It's only fun when you can call an orange an orange, and anybody that shows you a red apple is changing the rules? There are no 2 identical oranges in this universe. So there are two different objects that are similar in appearance, but not at all the same. In order for there to be "2" of something, those "somethings" have to be THE SAME! Can you tell me which two objects in this universe are exactly the same?

More sem'antics from the Seedling. Before you object ... you're the same as always. cn