Making cheap soil for outdoor/guerilla grows

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making the $$$

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As most of us outdoor guys know good dirt isnt dirt cheap. We also know that just a few plants can require quite a bit of dirt to be brought in. A standard 3X3X3 hole is 27 cubic feet. If you have 10 plants thats nearly 300 cubic feet of dirt. So my question for all you guys is how do you make your dirt without going broke?

What do you guys reccomend for a soil mix?
 
pot scott

pot scott

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unless u already have bank, I would just start the seeds in peat moss/vermiculite than just put in the native soil. you can always give the nutrients the plants need through fertilizing them when you water.:weed:
 
HolyGhost23

HolyGhost23

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exactly what he said. plant those weeds where grass is and you won't have a problem if you just add some ferts.
 
longlizard

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Let nature do the work for you, use aged manure, compost, and other biomass, as food for compost worms. I use red wigglers, though you don't have to buy compost worms either. A pile of compost or aged manure just manages to have worms.
I don't know about this year, but you should start a compost pile for next year, and add worms. Research: Vermicomposting and the value of Worm casting. You might find it easy too do and have organic pot!
 
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Thanks guys I have a lot of free composted horse crap and good ol' illinois soil I figure if i mix the crap, soil, some perlite and sand ill have a decent mix. You guys think throwing in a few chopped up fish in the mix would be worth it?
 
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mushroom compost makes a good free soil additive if you have a mushroom farm nearby. just make sure to add some perlite for drainage.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Yes it would but don't put it near the surface because of animals....down deeper.

It sounds like you have some land, so if you know you will be growing for years to come, you should start a compost pile and a leaf pile.

In 2 years you will have some fine compost when you mix the two piles together. Add some ash from a small wood burn....and you have a fine foundation in which to grow.

Horse manure will work, but moo moo is better....and rabbit even more so.
 
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CrackerJax said:
Yes it would but don't put it near the surface because of animals....down deeper.

It sounds like you have some land, so if you know you will be growing for years to come, you should start a compost pile and a leaf pile.

In 2 years you will have some fine compost when you mix the two piles together. Add some ash from a small wood burn....and you have a fine foundation in which to grow.

Horse manure will work, but moo moo is better....and rabbit even more so.
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I have a compost pile of grass clippings, leaves, etc and a nice big pile of ashes from bonfires. ya I would probally put them down deeper. Im doing a little fishing this weekend and i just chuck all the carp i catch so ill just use them
 
CrackerJax

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Start a separate leaf pile as well. It takes a year longer but produces a fine leaf mold with fantastic amounts of good microbes.... a bit different from compost but just as effective, especially when mixed together. Just make a 10X10 chicken wire enclosure and dump just leaves (some twigs inevitably) in there, and occasionally turn it with a pitchfork.
 
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CrackerJax said:
Start a separate leaf pile as well. It takes a year longer but produces a fine leaf mold with fantastic amounts of good microbes.... a bit different from compost but just as effective, especially when mixed together. Just make a 10X10 chicken wire enclosure and dump just leaves (some twigs inevitably) in there, and occasionally turn it with a pitchfork.
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Ok thanks ill do that good luck growing!
 
Corbat420

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making the $$$ said:
As most of us outdoor guys know good dirt isnt dirt cheap. We also know that just a few plants can require quite a bit of dirt to be brought in. A standard 3X3X3 hole is 27 cubic feet. If you have 10 plants thats nearly 300 cubic feet of dirt. So my question for all you guys is how do you make your dirt without going broke?

What do you guys reccomend for a soil mix?
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Personaly, i try to keep it as free and organic as possible...... im kind of a grass roots man my self, but i gota tell you it takes ALOT of work.



you have to have a suitable organic compost to do this properly.
it starts in the fall before the grow season, you have to go down and see the local cattle farmers and get fresh manure, hopefully free (in small ammounts) but you might have to pay for the manure, dont worry its cheap. if you can get it you should get cow,goat and rabbit manure to get an even mix of nutrients although any one of the 3 will do. the thing about manure is it has to sit for the winter before you can use it.


next step is this: you go out to a local swamp and you dig all the peatmoss from the edges of the swamp (it has to be a LARGE Old swamp) i usualy get a couple pickup loads (1000~ CF). and go down to a publicly owned beach/quarry/gravel pit and get a pickup load of coarse sand, the sand should resemble perlite or vermiculite.

mix up the peatmoss and manure in your organic compost and let it sit over the winter. when spring comes you have to "turn" the compost, fliping the contents so the bottom comes into contact with the oxygen.

when grow season comes mix the organic soil with the sand you got and you have a nice, evenly draining, nutrient rich compost soil. just add weed + water :)


hope i helped. :bigjoint:

P.S: it helps to know people from the agricultural sector (farmers..), i have a few farmer friends and they have been priceless when it comes to fertalizer products such as ammonia nitrate, animal manures and fertalizers, ect...
 
Gr33nCrack

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Check out my video on YouTube 'Outdoor Grow - Organic compost for Cannabis . I personally used around 75% organic compost straight from my backyard and like 25 percent vermiculite. There's this park by my house that i go to often and there is always a ton of geese shit everywhere, so today i took a garbage bag and filled it with like 5 pounds of shit, I'm gonna let it dry and brew it into a tea, whenever i feel like feeding the plants again with it I can just go back and get more, This is perfect since i don't have enough money to buy good fertilizer for 10 plants, Check out the pictureView attachment 959324
 
veggiegardener

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A standard 3X3X3 hole is 27 cubic feet. If you have 10 plants thats nearly 300 cubic feet of dirt. So my question for all you guys is how do you make your dirt without going broke? [/QUOTE said:
My personal opinion is that there is nothing standard about a three foot deep hole.

I use 12" raised beds in my garden. They are built on top of 100% adobe clay.

Cannabis does wonderfully in that foot with no need to penetrate deeper.

Do yourself a favor and dig one foot deep, and then turn the bottom over, mixing it with a little potting mix to loosen it. Fill with your soil mix. Do this next to your "standard" 3 foot deep hole, and compare.

You'll save a ton of work and money if I'm right.

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Gr33nCrack

Gr33nCrack

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I have read that cannabis roots can grow up to six feet deep and 5 feet wide, a foot deep would work just fine for cannabis but if its surrounded with clay its going to stay insane that square foot when it reaches the end. I personally dug 2 holes about 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 and was able to put about 7 gallons of soil in it, 1 foot would proley be just fine tho
 
dano88

dano88

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I got a bunch of dirt with dead worms used teabags and dirt I started seeds in last year in cups but some of the seeds never popped so I mixed that in with some left over dirt been adding lettuce tomatoe the crunchy outside part of onions and a little wine a fell asleep and never drank with fruit flies in it , not throwing in peels but little rotten pieces of bananna I'm thinking of either putting this in the bottom of grow holes or mixing in with dirt on first transplant not sure yet ill make up my mind then ?
 
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