mail order peyote

Discussion in 'Hallucinatory Substances' started by rory420420, Jan 2, 2013.

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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    I found a site overseas that will mail peyote buttons,alive,with no dirt just clean roots..there are supposed to be 5 buttons/cacti per order of $25 shipping included..most reviews say they got 6! All about a quarter(coin u.s.) size around..there is one species that is $150.00..I can't remember the name because I'm not buying it.
    Any way,I know this site is shipping from the UK,and have read that peyote is legal there,and know whrooms used to be..even the site says they ship to u.s. but won't reship if intercepted by customs. This leads me to fell I will order from them,and I know that it takes 7-10 years for the cactus to be ready..is that a weight thing or a maturity thing? If I order two peyote bundles will one bundle (5-6 small buttons) be enough to have a good trip,for I will plant the other..
    Any info is helpful..if its not feasible ill bring up another thread about san pedro and others to see how to find mescalito...thanks all!
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    MrEDuck

    MrEDuck Well-Known Member

    You're better off going with San Pedro or Peruvian Torch if you want mescaline.
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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    Y is that duck? Legality? Im ok withsending it here,and I hear that there is so much variables with the other cacti..dosage and consuming the massive amount of slimey cactus..and I'm not ok with the chemical extraction,muratic acid?!?xyelene!?..no thanks..and the boiling scraping of the skin seems ok,u dry it out and grind the powder in a coffee grinder,but for the life of me can't find a good reccomended dosage for this method..1gm? 10?...if I knew some better methods id grab a deal on ebay for sanpedro..they got 9lbs for sale..but the evil genuis in me still wants to grow the real deal..would be a great 40th birthday present for me in 7 years (assuming my wife doesn't kill it like the othe plants in the house..lol)...I guess 25$ isn't too bad a loss..ill just order both cacti!
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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    If you have a simple extraction/condensing tech,please share,I understand you know your sheeit. Links are welcome or p.m. me
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    2fast92

    2fast92 Well-Known Member

    I ordered San Pedro one time for mescaline. If I remember right it was pretty cheap but I never got around to the extraction process for some reason.
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    sonar

    sonar Outdoor Moderator

    They say they send them with roots? Hmm, that seems strange. You would think they would only chop the heads off and leave the roots to sprout new heads (there is a term for this I can't remember). They say that is why peyote is becoming endangered in the wild. People harvesting the entire root rather than just cutting at the base.
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    2fast92

    2fast92 Well-Known Member

    Idk man, if it's a company selling them all they prolly don't give a shit and just wanna make money. Don't care bout the cacti at all.
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    sonar

    sonar Outdoor Moderator

    Well I figure they would be growing it themselves and would want them to grow back as quickly as possible. Who knows.
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    canndo

    canndo Well-Known Member

    Ok, peyote is stronger than san pedro.

    But.

    Peyote grows very slowly, san pedro grows very fast.

    Peyote has a host of psychoatives in there - some are experience enlightening, some not so much, some are a little nausea producing and some actually temper or even blunt the mescaline experience. If you have ever had more than a few buttons you know that your experience is in spite of the peyote and not because of it. in the lower doses it doesn't make much difference but at higher ones it surely does, you WILL throw up, you WILL have stomach problems and you may or may not care depending upon how body centric you are. Some people can simply brush off a little constipation, others have it as the focal point of their day. Some people simply get up and throw up while others fret and hold it down until they are forced to, and then they moan and complain that they threw up.

    Nothing wrong with either type, that is just the way we are made. I hate throwing up but encourage myself to do so as quickly as possible because i hate nausea far far more.

    At any rate - if you think you will be a fan of a very complex mental coctail and you don't mind wating for a number of years (I found the small buttons were by weight just about the same potency as the larger ones - so they don't actually "ripen"), they get that peyote - and yes, if you are careful to preserve the root, you will get another "head". If you are VERY patient you will begin to see "pups" or tiny new buttons, carefully pull them off and plant them and you will get a jump on a new crop.

    On the other hand, your pedro will grow at a foot or more a year and two feet is a decent dose, plant a dozen one footers and you will have at least 12 reasonable trips a year or wait and expand that exponentialy.

    And on the last hand (how many have I gone through?), your peyote can be eaten,3, 4 10 whatever, without your having to choke down many many ounces of san pedro slime.


    If I were you and I was young again I would pick up as many of those peyote plants as I could afford, put them in a nice secure grow place and then get myself a couple of feet of rooted pedro. That way I'd have the pedro in a year or two and the peyote in 5.

    They are different trips, quite - the peyote comes with a dollop of delerium that is almost always pleasant.


    I've taken peyote maybe two dozen times, san pedro once (and ONLY once) and mescaline another dozen or so. I will take the pure mescaline every time. in my opinion, the other psychoactives are just noise.
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    2fast92

    2fast92 Well-Known Member

    Agreed, but they most likely have the capital to just get new whole cacti.
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    2fast92

    2fast92 Well-Known Member

    I've always been... reluctant to try actually tripping on mescaline. I worry that it would be too intense and then I'd have no way to come down, that it wouldn't work, or that nausea would get me (I prefer pain over nausea). This might be due to my OCD, social anxiety, and panic disorder. It is very hard for me to try new things WITHOUT the help of heavy alcohol intake, benzos, or opiates.

    I have tripped over 30 times of shrooms, nearly 50 on L, DXM (not really a trip), 4-AcO-DMT, and 4-AcO-DET. Would it be ok for me to try it then yall think? And at what dose?
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    unohu69

    unohu69 Well-Known Member

    Nice, i been wanting a cpl buttons to grow myself. the trip is secondary to growing it (but it is #2 on the list of why to grow it). its a beautiful cacti.
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    echlectica

    echlectica Active Member

    There are two people legally allowed to grow and harvest Payote int he US. Their knowlegde was passed to them. The reason the peyote is becoming extinct in the wild is because of amateurs cutting the whole cactus off below the root line. that and taking whole p[lants. The Company has probably sprouted them from seed if they are legit its a good find I would get it. You really cannot compair peyote to san pedro. I dare you to chew san pedro...
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    echlectica

    echlectica Active Member

    If your scared don't do it. But you should have heart, and take the path with heart...
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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    I've eaten mescaline twice when I was younger..I love lsd more but the potency these days sucks ballz! I shouoldnt have to eat a ten strip to get off. I figure getting the buttons would have me a few trips here and there for the rest of my life if I order..and will probably get the san pedro too..but still unsure of doses..do I eat all 5 buttons?one?..I know the dose of san pedro is 2ft..but I'm will cook it into powder,which ii gather you must eat 35gm of powder..anyone know the "round about" dose for each?
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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    And this place sells the seeds also..but that would be working in reverse I feel when I can get sprouted cacti for same source
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    25 years away

    25 years away Member

    Canndo,
    Beautiful my friend! Very good info. here for those less experienced! Most are done from seed collected from parent stock plants. There is some work on tissue culturing them although I haven't seen them available as yet. I have been collecting/growing them for decades, but haven't indulged in over 20 years now! Perhaps again one day!
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    canndo

    canndo Well-Known Member


    Tissue Culture! Now there's a thought.
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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    Tissue culture meaning grafting or taking chunks of said species and propagation after..like with potatoes? Fill me in..pleeze ;-)
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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    Btw canndo,I"stole" your avatar and applied it to my dads phone number..couldn't help it..its hypnotic..but promise I won't use it online..lol

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