Check out my outdoor bagseed grow from 2010, all bagseed from mid grade commercial smoke. Wound up with some quality smoke, except for the sativa, she didn't have time to finish outdoors in NY State, she tasted lemony/piney but not very strong buzz. They grew in 5 gallon buckets outdoors, with only bone and blood meal for veg and BC Big Bud nutes for flower/bloom. Some purps, what looked like a haze strain, and the 12 foot sativa, all bagseed, if you take care of them they will produce, but GENETICS will determine whether they hermie, and what conditions they can take. It's a weed, it grows easily, just give access to sun, clean water and good soil, it's not hard MON!!