Looking for input on double main stem plants.

MonkE

Member
So I'm looking for input from those who have run into this before.

How did the plant do?
Was there a noticeable difference in grow rate?
Was there a noticeable difference in bud quality?
Noticeable difference in yield?

This popped up in my first set of plants as part of this breeding project and I'm wondering if I should try to isolate it if possible. Or rather I'm wondering if it's worth it... I'm sure I'll still try anyway but input would be appreciated.

 

cheddar1985

Well-Known Member
Bro wot u on about double stem lol !! Its a plant that has grew like many others do so why isolate it? Train each stem so as 1 grows bigger than the other u pull the biggest 1 down so the smaller stem thinks its bigger stem eg lower stress trainin aka lsting it is nt unusual and if left alone 1 of the stems will be dominant over the other which imo is a waste of a very positive stem that gets left behind!! Hope that helps
chedz
 

MonkE

Member
That's why I'm asking.
I always top plants and in my mind a plant that starts itself "topped" is a nice thing in my book.
Just trying to get an idea of how it grows. I was able to find mention of it a few times online with mixed opinions. Some have said it's a negative while others have been extremely positive about it. One person made mention of a 30% increase in yield side by side with identical plants (minus the duals)
 

cheddar1985

Well-Known Member
If u have nt grew plants out like this then take my advise as i put above !! Why would some1 be inhappy it grew that way at the end of the day all it needs is training which isn t hard at all 2 pieces of string with a loop in each wrap round the stem with 1 end and thread it through the loop and hey presto you can start your lsting i make my strings long enough to wrap under my pots to secure and hold branches were i need them its as simple as that if i still dont get it i suggest u go ask in the newbie forum¡! :-)
Chedz
 

MonkE

Member
Lol cheddar, I think we have a misunderstanding.
My intention is to see if I can reproduce this via breeding and make it a 100% reoccuring trait for seeds.
I'm not at all unhappy with it. Actually based on the input I've gotten so far I'm pretty happy with it. Hopefully it's a genetic trait that I can pass on and hopefully it's a male so I can use it on all the plants I planned on seeding this round.
I'm also happy because it's a pure sativa so maybe I'll be able to create a trait that eliminates the typical low sativa yields.
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
Its not a trait to be passed on. Just a fluke of nature that happens from time too time. Polyploid as mentioned above. There are alsso triploids and quadploids. Although I have only seen in person 1 quadploid .
 

MonkE

Member
Well I'll give it a try to see if it can anyway... Can't hurt since this plant was destined for breeding before it was ever germed as it is
 

Buddy232

Active Member
Lol cheddar, I think we have a misunderstanding.
My intention is to see if I can reproduce this via breeding and make it a 100% reoccuring trait for seeds.
I'm not at all unhappy with it. Actually based on the input I've gotten so far I'm pretty happy with it. Hopefully it's a genetic trait that I can pass on and hopefully it's a male so I can use it on all the plants I planned on seeding this round.
I'm also happy because it's a pure sativa so maybe I'll be able to create a trait that eliminates the typical low sativa yields.
It's a pure sativa? What "strain" is it and what are the origins? Pure genetics of any human cultivated plant are hard to come across... try to find wild maize (corn). They've been selectively breeding that since the Myan age.

Anyways, you've got good intentions, however biology isn't that easy. Especially when your dealing with deep mutations such as what you have. It's not every day (or every germination) that the cells don't develop normally, and you end up with a plant that grows differently. However it does happen a lot, with all the plants of the world. Again, corn is the best example.

You'd be hard pressed to even get the plant to copulate, let alone develop something stable in the future. As mentioned by CMT polyploidy, is something "common" and what your hoping for is what they've done with corn, but unfortunately it has to be done in a test tube. Just think about it in a macro way. Traits like blue eyes, blonde hair - those are easy to breed. Cell divisions, mutations, etc, medicine is starting to develop family histories for those - but for the most part you had your old wives tales "boys skip 2 generations on the mothers side", etc.

Your best bet would to be keep cloning it. See what happens... maybe chuck some pollen at a 2nd or 3rd generation, not your only specimen. Have fun and never set any goals that are unrealistic. I did reasearch for almost 10 years and I never dissappointed myself that way. One of the animals I worked with was parthogenic, ie. they could clone themselves. Even they would come out with funky offspring sometimes! However they never survived or ended up non-viable, even though they were parthenogenic. It's natures way of preserving good gentics.

Take care. Good luck.
 

MonkE

Member
I'll retract the pure sativa statement. You're right it's not pure so let's change that to just "sativa".

Thanks for the input. I'm by no means an expert and appreciate any tips as I learn.

I'm definitely not expecting the mutation to be easy to reproduce. I'm thinking more along the lines of polinating and planting 100+ seeds at a time to see if I can continue to isolate the trait over a longer period of time. I'm in no rush and this is all just for fun. This plant along with 5 others in the room with it currently are mothers that were started simply over the idea that I would like to work on a strain of my own. So I'll be toying with breeding for a while and learning as much as I can about it. Should be a fun little side project and a great learning experience.
 
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